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Saw these on AR15.com and was laughing my ass off at them.
About two years ago my neighbor's wife got a cat. It was a cool cat and all was good.

It started to get real smart as it got older. It found out it could jump on my fence and meow down at my two hunting dogs. The dogs could be heard for hours....This was an every night thing.

We tried to put things on the fence to stop it...nothing worked.

One day this neighbor comes to me and shows me a bunch of mouse traps he rigged to "snap" but that wouldnt hurt the cats paws. Good job. It would scare the cat off the fence and he also put eye hooks in them so we could secure them them from falling off the fence.

AS we were putting them up on the fence, his wife came out and said, "dont you hurt my cat." He assured his wife the traps would only scare the cat off the fence.

Can anyone see where this is going???

So we grab a case of beer and sit back to see if this was going to work.

Cat jumps on fence...meows...dogs come running foaming at the mouth...cat steps on trap...SNAP!! cat falls inbetween dogs...

It didnt suffer. The dogs are well trained to kill game quickly.
Should of kept the cat inside or confined to their own yard, cat got what it deserved for taunting the dogs and keeping the whole neighborhood up. My dog knows better than to bark at a cat or anything else unless it's an intruder (or he'll get his ass beat), he knows to just kill it and be done with it.

One of my neighbors had a cat I named "half-paw" cause he was missing half his paw. He made the mistake of pissing and scatching the seats of my 53 MG TD. I didn't know what or who's animal was doing it, so I set out cage traps and would find them set off but always empty. I got tired of the expensive damage to the car and set out some animal traps. I got busy and forgot about them, and about two weeks later a neighbor up the street asked if I had seen her cat recently, I hadn't. Two days later I saw the cat hobbling up the street and saw it was missing part of its paw and it clicked in my head to check the animal traps. Sure enough, there was the other half of his foot. After that the damage to my car stopped. Cat learned the hard way, and if my dog was damaging someone elses property, off his territory, I'd expect the same.
It does seem "cat people" are a little hard to please--true story, and I have posted it before, but it seems to fit here:

Years ago I had two excellent hunting dogs--English Pointers. The hunt was very strong in both of them, well bred, etc. I also had/have an excellent kennel facility--including a chain link top on it. I had lived here for several years, my dogs were well-disciplined and quiet. They would bark when the meter reader came around back, but that is to be expected. One "Be still!" would quiet them.

One day they were going absolutely nuts barking and literally climbing the kennel. I yelled "be still" and they kept on--very odd. I went out back and found a cat sitting calmly on top of the kennel looking down at them as they did flip-flops that would have made John Kerry proud.

I ran toward it and it jumped down and left my hard in a flash. Problem was, this had become the cat's new "hobby"--it came back every day for about a week. I sprayed it with the hose, yelled, chased it, and was at my wit's end. At this point my neighbor two doors down came over and kindly let me know the neighbor on the other side of him was very upset over my dogs barking. He wanted to give me a heads-up they had mentioned calling the law. No good this.

I was furious, at my wit's end, and needing quick results, so I bought a large Hav-A-Hart box trap. I set it and caught the bastard the first night. The next day I called Animal Control and they came and took it, all legal-like. I asked them what happens to stray cats, fearing they would let it loose and it would return. They said in three days it would be euthanized if not claimed. Good!

The feral beast didn't show up again, calm was restored, and all was well in Beekeeperland. A couple of weeks later I saw the neighbor out and told him to pass on I had fixed the problem and the cat was now dead, so there wouldn't be a repeat.

A few days after that he informs me the very people who were complaining had claimed that feral cat as theirs--owing to the fact they fed it. Now they were FURIOUS at me for "killing their cat"--and didn't speak to me for over ten years. I've outlasted the wife, as she died last year and the husband is now (overly) friendly, so we do have a happy ending. You just can't please some people.
Why is it that dog owners are legally required to keep their animals under control almost all the time, while nobody gives a damn about cats roaming the place, killing birds, pooping at random, and taunting other people's dogs, causing barking and howling which everyone hates?
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Because dogs can actually kill people.
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Yeh, we had a cat menacing the birds in our garden, and we finally got sick of it, snuck up behind it and brained it with a seven iron. OMG, I laughed so hard, because brutal overkill against house hold pets is simply hilarious.

Alternatively, we bought an electronic cat scarer, and never had any more problems. And I don't know about you, but the only time I've ever trodden in cat shit was when my friends got a new kitten and it crapped in my shoe when I left them at the door. Every other time, it's been dogs and numerous times in our own garden when next doors great dane came lumbering over the fence.
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Stofsk wrote:Because dogs can actually kill people.
Agreed, and while a cat CAN do some pretty serious damage for its size, I've never heard of a cat that attacked and continue to bite and scratch rather than run away.
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Yeah, got to second that one there. When was the last time a cat mauled someone so badly that they died?
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Oh yeah - and cats BURY their poop. Dogs (and worse - dog owners) tend not to worry about where they leave it lying.
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I think that here technically cats are subject to leash laws just like dogs. They just aren't enforced that much because, with all of the coyotes around, it is highly recomended by just about everyone that cats not be allowed to roam freely if the owner wants the cat to live very long.


On the cat's burrying their poop and dogs just leaving it there. One of my old dogs picked up a habit of kicking dirt over his poop when I used to walk him on these old dirt roads and through the desert.

I don't currently have any animals of my own but I still have the pleasure of finding cat poop lightly covered in dirt in my fenced in backyard. I don't mind too much since things dry out rather quickly and I think the cats help keep the ground squirrel population from getting out of control but it can still be a little gross at times.
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heh

ryan remind me to introduce you to my mom's current coyte hunting cat. (can't can't beleive my mom managed to "Domesticate" the damn thing....

(hint she weighs more then fritz)
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The Yosemite Bear wrote:heh

ryan remind me to introduce you to my mom's current coyte hunting cat. (can't can't beleive my mom managed to "Domesticate" the damn thing....

(hint she weighs more then fritz)
Then that is more towards mountain lion, then household cat. Still the point stands, how many domesticated breeds of cat do you know are a threat to humans versus breed of dogs?

As for leash laws, Tysroc is right, they vary in some of the weirder ways and will apply to both, mostly for natural reasons for a dogs, and just "Keep the dumb animal inside" for cats.
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Stofsk wrote:Because dogs can actually kill people.
By that logic, only large and powerful dog breeds should be subject to leash laws. Yet even the most harmless, diminutive dog is still legally required to be on a leash, while cats are allowed to roam free.
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Darth Wong wrote:
Stofsk wrote:Because dogs can actually kill people.
By that logic, only large and powerful dog breeds should be subject to leash laws. Yet even the most harmless, diminutive dog is still legally required to be on a leash, while cats are allowed to roam free.
Because almost all dogs will put up with a collar, but a lot of cats will go to all lengths to get them off? My cat actually seriously injured himself struggling to get out of one. (He has since been made an indoor cat)
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Darth Wong wrote:By that logic, only large and powerful dog breeds should be subject to leash laws. Yet even the most harmless, diminutive dog is still legally required to be on a leash, while cats are allowed to roam free.
That seems fair enough, I just don't think any legislators could be bothered doing that.

I find it difficult to laugh at a cat being killed by dogs or euthanised because it bugged some guy for a bit. Maybe I'm just not a dick? To be honest, all this "it were jumping on my fence a hyuck, it deserved to die so we cracked open a beer and voted republican," noise does make me laugh, though, because these people are fucked, emotionally and mentally. Why didn't they take their dogs away and prevent a cat dying? Because they're sadists. Wow, what awesome people they are.

I presume they laugh at shit like this, too, because the kid had a dumb name or might've been "teasing the dogs," in the way only a newborn baby can and we should be thankful she died fairly quickly and full of painkillers.
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Rye wrote:I find it difficult to laugh at a cat being killed by dogs or euthanised because it bugged some guy for a bit. Maybe I'm just not a dick? To be honest, all this "it were jumping on my fence a hyuck, it deserved to die so we cracked open a beer and voted republican," noise does make me laugh, though, because these people are fucked, emotionally and mentally. Why didn't they take their dogs away and prevent a cat dying? Because they're sadists. Wow, what awesome people they are.
Laughing at it is cruel. But I can understand why someone would not rush to save the life of a cat whose intrusions on your property have been interfering with your sleep for weeks.
I presume they laugh at shit like this, too, because the kid had a dumb name or might've been "teasing the dogs," in the way only a newborn baby can and we should be thankful she died fairly quickly and full of painkillers.
OK now you're just full of shit.
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lazerus wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:
Stofsk wrote:Because dogs can actually kill people.
By that logic, only large and powerful dog breeds should be subject to leash laws. Yet even the most harmless, diminutive dog is still legally required to be on a leash, while cats are allowed to roam free.
Because almost all dogs will put up with a collar, but a lot of cats will go to all lengths to get them off? My cat actually seriously injured himself struggling to get out of one. (He has since been made an indoor cat)
Frankly, it's not my fucking problem that some cats won't wear a collar. Especially when cats can and will live their entire lives indoors if their owners want them to.
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Darth Wong wrote:OK now you're just full of shit.
I hope you are right. An accecdote does not a tendency make, but all the people I know who would laugh at a video of a cat being torn apart by dogs also watch and laugh at videos of people being greviously injured or brutally killed. The more accidental it was, the more hilarious.

I have enjoyed my share of schradenfreude*, but I do not seek out things like that, and I hope the kind of person that laughs when his neighbor's cat is torn apart in front of him by his dogs is not also the kind of person that watches car crashes to see how badly the victems get torn and smashed up.

(*Watching stupid people experience pain is hilarious, but only to a point. Skaters landing on their balls and doubling over is funny, seeing a bystander get cut in two by an out of control race car is not.)
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The Silence and I wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:OK now you're just full of shit.
I hope you are right. An accecdote does not a tendency make, but all the people I know who would laugh at a video of a cat being torn apart by dogs also watch and laugh at videos of people being greviously injured or brutally killed. The more accidental it was, the more hilarious.
Sociopaths would laugh at both. But that doesn't mean you can necessarily go from one to the other.
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I have cats, and they are kept indoors. I can't understand people who let cats roam around the neighborhood, and risk them getting hit by cars, and attacked by other animals. My dogs, which are large breeds, have a nice fenced yard to run around in, and are kept indoors much of the time as well.
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I find cats to be pleasent little fluffballs when they're inside and well mannered, but I'd have zero tolerance for once harassing my bulldog or messing around with my yard or it's native inhabitants. My dog's been taught not to menace the squirrels and birds, even if it could catch them, and the only thing around here I permit to murder another animal is the bigass redtail hawk that's in the area. Now that my dog is full size, peace once again reigns supreme in the back yard.

As was said, people force dogs to do things because dogs can be forced to do so, and if cats simply will not accept a collar then they need to be locked indoors the same way a collar-hating dog would be. Cats can be trained to tolerate a collar, even if it's harder, and frankly people deliberate molly-coddle and spoil their cat without any interest in discipline.

I don't need it to fetch the paper, but cats can understand rules, and this 'holier than thou' attitude most cats have isn't some great innate intelligence of the cat, it's just the sign of a spoiled, poorly socialized animal. People tolerate it because small cats rarely inflict grevious injuries, but you'd never think to fawn over a dog that hisses at visitors, wanders around at night getting into fights with other animals, and refuses to wear a collar or follow instructions.

So despite my love for dogs and cats in the house, and the fact I find it unfunny to hurt skaters or cats, I wouldn't feel any moral obligation not to eliminate a bothersome cat the same way I've dealt with bagers, ground hogs, deer, mice, or whatever. If it's causing trouble within the jurisdiction of my yard and it's not owned by anyone, a measure I'd attempt to take in the case of a cat, then it's not a future pet, it's a pest.

I don't want to hurt cats afterall, but there's a difference between feral cats and ill-mannered outdoor cats and someone's well behaved pet.
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Cats roaming free is something I've never understood why it is tolerated.

Basically people let the cat run outside to "Get in touch with the natural side" to "S/He doesn't like the indoors.", but if we allowed that for dogs? Holy shit people would throw a hissy fit about how dogs rummage through garbage and such not.

Honestly if you want your cat to roam the outdoors then it should follow the exact restrictions a dog does.
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Interesting. I didn´t know that there were any problems with cats roaming freely. My parents live in a village and there are cats literally everywhere. There are farmers there who have tons of cats, families who have one or several cats and so on. I´ve never heard of any problems with cats. Of course, every once in a while one gets hit by a car but that´s not really a problem besides for owners who are emotionally attached to the pet.
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Ok,

1. The most likely breed to attack/bite a human is a mini poodle, or a terrier. (particularly a rat terrier) wilst not fatal, them small dogs can definatly cause perminant injury. <Ok, I'm citing post office hearsay and book of lists trivia>

2. yeah, cats are pretty useless, unless you live on a farm. (reminds me, I wish I could have introduced you to the kitten raised by a Collie bitch, this cat actually not only hunted small animals, but he helped herd the livestock. (sheep and chickens) <yes, a cat that thought he was a just another of the collie's puppies>
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We keep our cats indoors as well and only let them out to the backyard under constant watch for short periods in the summer.

I understand the annoyance if a stray is causing an issues with their dogs or whatever, but as far as I'm concerned unless their is some extreme conditions, no one has any excuse for outright killing it or causing loose cats unnecessary harm in order to deal with it. Also, for any who could possibly take pleasure or think it funny at anytime to kill or physically harm cats, remind me to give your face a good curbstomping should we ever meet.

Cats roaming free is something I've never understood why it is tolerated.
That would be because cats are a) far less likely to be dangerous due to size and well just their nature, b) they mostly always take care to bury their own waste without anyone ever noticing it, c) most wandering cats don't even cause annoyances for people anyways, they just slink around quietly minding their own business and are more likely to hunt for their food instead of rumaging through peoples garbage. They will also more likely run away if startled and will likely never return unless you've got something in your yard that they are attracted too, in which case if its a stray, trap it harmlessly and take it to the local shelter or humane society.

Loose dogs on the other hand are far more likely to be a danger to people, their waste is far more obvious and never buried, and they can also be more of annoyance to people than a stray cat ever could when they start yapping and won't shut up, they also like to dig bigger holes to bury various things as well. Smaller dogs may not be anymore dangerous than a cat but they are still more likely to be an annoyance than cats given the smaller breeds penchant for constant earpiercing yappiness.
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let's face it, we're talking more of solitary predator behavior rather then, pack hunter behavior.
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The Yosemite Bear wrote:heh

ryan remind me to introduce you to my mom's current coyte hunting cat. (can't can't beleive my mom managed to "Domesticate" the damn thing....

(hint she weighs more then fritz)
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yes, it is a domestic cougar hybrid. :twisted:

Since the local coyote population has been eating people's dogs, in their back yards lately, I don't blame my mom for going a tad exoitic.
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