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Anyone north of the Mason Dixon in an outdoor stadium will do just fine, weather-wise. Seattle's not especially cold, just wetter than average.Jub wrote:Who would want to be the opposition playing against that team with that wall of noise in the background? Plus, how many teams are used to playing outdoors in the kind of weather Seattle gets late in the season?
The NFL should seriously take a look at the design of Century link and determine if it is granting an unfair advantage.Lord Relvenous wrote:So yeah, it feels good to be the team to break that streak. And goddamn was this a performance and a half. Our first round opponent is not going to be happy playing us in the Clink.
The Chiefs fans broke the decibel record the Seahawks fans set earlier this year, but the sound on the field wasn't nearly as loud. They don't let teams in other stadiums blare noise over loud speakers while the opposing team is on the field, why should the Seahawks be allowed to design their stadium in such a way that crowd noise is focused down on the field of play?Well, it was built to be a great home field advantage," says Paul Greisemer, principal architectural director at AECOM, the firm that designed CenturyLink." The fact that it is loud is really kind of a result of a number of things that came about just through the design. It's on a very small site, comparatively to other stadiums, and because of that we had to compress the building very tightly. Fans are closer to the field than they are in most any NFL stadium today. So that combined with the desire to have a large roof covering, so fans are protected, really kind of combined the greatest of convergence of storms into a great environment."
Beyond the design, the materials used to build the stadium also contribute to the roar.
"It's a metal roof so it naturally is a very reflective surface. As is the seating bowl which is largely concrete. So there are a lot of those materials that are serving as sound mirrors, if you will, and bouncing the sound right back."
I asked Paul what where the loudest part of the stadium is.
"Luckily, it's right on the field, it seems, from all of the false starts that the visiting teams experience. The way the roof is angled, and the way the bowl captures all the sound that goes backwards and focuses it back towards the center of the stadium, you're pretty much going to get the maximum affect right at the players."
This is the NFL. Ho do you know they haven't already?TheHammer wrote:The NFL should seriously take a look at the design of Century link and determine if it is granting an unfair advantage.Lord Relvenous wrote:So yeah, it feels good to be the team to break that streak. And goddamn was this a performance and a half. Our first round opponent is not going to be happy playing us in the Clink.
If you think Seattle is the only team that has a stadium designed to be loud, I don't know what to tell you. It's not against the rules to use architecture. Also, other teams have gotten in trouble before for pumping in sound with speaker systems. The Cotls also play in a dome, and a few years back they had to defend themselves from the accusation that they were artificially creating noise with their speaker system. So the NFL is proactive in enforcing crowd noise violations. With that so, don't you think they probably already took a look at the Seahawks stadium and okayed it by now?The Chiefs fans broke the decibel record the Seahawks fans set earlier this year, but the sound on the field wasn't nearly as loud. They don't let teams in other stadiums blare noise over loud speakers while the opposing team is on the field, why should the Seahawks be allowed to design their stadium in such a way that crowd noise is focused down on the field of play?
The 49ers new stadium doesn't have any noise focusing architecture. I'm not saying other stadiums shouldn't be subject to the same scrutiny,but the general consensus is that Clink is the worst of the bunch - even outpacing domed stadiums. And no, I don't for one minute buy the notion that seattle fans are simply "louder" than others. Certainly not when the team owner and the architect who designed the stadium are both on record as saying the stadium was designed to amplify crowd noise.Lord Relvenous wrote:This is the NFL. Ho do you know they haven't already?TheHammer wrote:The NFL should seriously take a look at the design of Century link and determine if it is granting an unfair advantage.Lord Relvenous wrote:So yeah, it feels good to be the team to break that streak. And goddamn was this a performance and a half. Our first round opponent is not going to be happy playing us in the Clink.
If you think Seattle is the only team that has a stadium designed to be loud, I don't know what to tell you. It's not against the rules to use architecture. Also, other teams have gotten in trouble before for pumping in sound with speaker systems. The Cotls also play in a dome, and a few years back they had to defend themselves from the accusation that they were artificially creating noise with their speaker system. So the NFL is proactive in enforcing crowd noise violations. With that so, don't you think they probably already took a look at the Seahawks stadium and okayed it by now?The Chiefs fans broke the decibel record the Seahawks fans set earlier this year, but the sound on the field wasn't nearly as loud. They don't let teams in other stadiums blare noise over loud speakers while the opposing team is on the field, why should the Seahawks be allowed to design their stadium in such a way that crowd noise is focused down on the field of play?
And I could have sworn I've already had this conversation.
I was pretty upset on Sunday evening, as every result the Bills needed went their way again for the second week running. "SOB" has set in though, and it feels the same as it always has with the distinction that I'm done with Stevie Johnson.Elfdart wrote:I'll let Catelyn Stark sum up my reaction to this week's San Diego choke-job:
They had their shot. Then the Stealers had help from the refs to steal it.GuppyShark wrote:It'd be really nice to see Seattle get a shot at taking home their first Lombardi. I'm always going to root for the teams that haven't won one.
No shit. Push off my ass.Thanas wrote:They had their shot. Then the Stealers had help from the refs to steal it.GuppyShark wrote:It'd be really nice to see Seattle get a shot at taking home their first Lombardi. I'm always going to root for the teams that haven't won one.
The notion that Tomlin did it intentionally implies he thought he could get away with it. With all the cameras, and eyes following the ball carrier, you'd have to be pretty stupid to think that. The referees could have awarded the Ravens a TD if they felt he had truly interfered, and maybe they should have. But way too big a deal has been made out of this.Thanas wrote:100.000 fine and no loss of a draft pick is how this will end up, I think. The totally not likely loss of a draft pick just looks like the NFL is saying "we really really are serious about this".
It does no such thing. I can do things intentionally in the heat of the moment without thinking about the consequences.TheHammer wrote:The notion that Tomlin did it intentionally implies he thought he could get away with it.Thanas wrote:100.000 fine and no loss of a draft pick is how this will end up, I think. The totally not likely loss of a draft pick just looks like the NFL is saying "we really really are serious about this".
Sure but most apparently are not total dumbasses like Mike Tomlin, who just happens to always stand near or on the sidelines whenever his defence or special teams are involved. Their get-back coach seriously failed.GuppyShark wrote:Do coaches on the sidelines not risk a "12 men on the field" infringement? Seems to happen all the time.
Quite a few of the old breed coaches like Schottenheimer, Cowher, Parcells used to stand out on the field during the game, but never near the action. The closest I can remember is a Monday Night game when Cowher looked like he was going to run out and tackle a Jaguars defender returning a blocked field goal.Thanas wrote:Sure but most apparently are not total dumbasses like Mike Tomlin, who just happens to always stand near or on the sidelines whenever his defence or special teams are involved. Their get-back coach seriously failed.GuppyShark wrote:Do coaches on the sidelines not risk a "12 men on the field" infringement? Seems to happen all the time.
