I can't. If you're already naked and showering with twenty other dudes, what the fuck does it matter if one or two them happen to suck dicks in their private lives?Havok wrote:Meh. Some guys are just uncomfortable with it. He didn't say he hates them or anything, he just doesn't want them where he is naked and showering. I can understand that.
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Heh. It is even funny considering that in many countries showers on beaches etc. are unisex or sometimes even have no walls/roofs. Doesn't mean everybody gets scared of seeing naked bodies.
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If you can't understand it you are either a moron or a liar.Alferd Packer wrote:I can't. If you're already naked and showering with twenty other dudes, what the fuck does it matter if one or two them happen to suck dicks in their private lives?Havok wrote:Meh. Some guys are just uncomfortable with it. He didn't say he hates them or anything, he just doesn't want them where he is naked and showering. I can understand that.
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Fine, I'm a giant gibbering idiot. Explain to me, then, in words of one syllable, why it's not homophobic to be uncomfortable with the one gay naked guy (out of the twenty other naked guys) in the showers. You're literally surrounded by glistening wet cocks and balls, what's so special about one of owners of those cocks being gay? He's just trying to take a shower, like the rest of the team.Havok wrote:If you can't understand it you are either a moron or a liar.
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I can understand his feelings. That doesn't mean it isn't homophobic at all to declare that no gay players are welcome on the team (it's in fact pretty damn homophobic). If you can't understand that, Hav, you've got serious issues.
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I didn't say it wasn't homophobic idiot. I said if you can't understand someone feeling that way you are a moron.
Alfred stated he literally can't understand it, hence moron or liar.
For the record, I don't think it is homophobic honestly. I think it is something else. I seriously doubt its fear of gay people and probably more just thinking it's gross. There has to a be a space between complete acceptance and OMG KILL!
If a straight guy thinks anal with a girl is gross, that doesn't mean he has a built in fear or hatred of guys that like anal with girls.
Look at it another way, if a guy is showering in a women's locker room some of them are going to be uncomfortable whether he wants to fuck them all or none of them. What the fuck does it matter if h eats pussy in his private life right?
Every argument you can make for women not wanting him in there or why it makes them uncomfortable can be made for a gay guy in a mens shower/locker room.
It seems like it is more an issue of sexism than homophobia.
Alfred stated he literally can't understand it, hence moron or liar.
For the record, I don't think it is homophobic honestly. I think it is something else. I seriously doubt its fear of gay people and probably more just thinking it's gross. There has to a be a space between complete acceptance and OMG KILL!
If a straight guy thinks anal with a girl is gross, that doesn't mean he has a built in fear or hatred of guys that like anal with girls.
Look at it another way, if a guy is showering in a women's locker room some of them are going to be uncomfortable whether he wants to fuck them all or none of them. What the fuck does it matter if h eats pussy in his private life right?
Every argument you can make for women not wanting him in there or why it makes them uncomfortable can be made for a gay guy in a mens shower/locker room.
It seems like it is more an issue of sexism than homophobia.
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If he's uncomfortable around gay men, that is a form of homophobia (which isn't just fear, but aversion or dislike or anything like that), but by itself it's a fairly common and relatively harmless one if it's all there is and if it were just that there wouldn't be nearly as much of an issue. But he's not just uncomfortable, he's demanding others accommodate his feelings. Gay people make him feel uncomfortable so he declares they're not welcome in his team and should leave if they already are in it. If they bother him so much he can't think about playing on the team with one, he should either get over it or, if he has to, remove himself from the situation if it comes up, instead.
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SUPERBOWL STARTS IN A FEW HOURS.
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So Kaepernick gets injured, Alex Smith comes in and gets MVP. When on the podium, "I'd just like to say FUCK the Harbaughnation." 
Nah, but seriously I got the Ravens. I'm on Team Thanas.
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Whoo, so how bout that td?
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I'm not celebrating yet. There's still time for someone to flip the "ELITE/NOT ELITE" switch on Flacco's back.
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And just like that, all the Bane jokes.
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Haven't the Niners employed this strategy once already this year? 
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So that facilities manager is getting fired first thing Monday...
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wooo. Ravens Football has arrived. Clearly the power outage resumed normal function for us.
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WHERES THE TRIGGER!?weemadando wrote:And just like that, all the Bane jokes.
Anyway, glad the Ravens won. Madden right again. I look forward to the tears of a biker.
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Congratulations Baltimore.
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I was pulling for the Ravens, but I still thought there was some BS officiating on the last 49er drive. Incomplete pass? HE TOOK THREE STEPS! not to mention the lack of holding call.
So yeah, mixed feelings on this one.
So yeah, mixed feelings on this one.
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I can absolutely complain about that no call on the last drive, but I wouldn't want it going against my team the other way.
We shouldn't have even been in this game after the absolute shittastic way we played in the first half. Am I upset we lost, yeah, but as the Ravens are my favorite AFC team it's hard to be super pissed.
It ended up being a great fucking game though. Congrats to Thanas and Ando. I know you guys were sweating fucking bullets at the end.
We shouldn't have even been in this game after the absolute shittastic way we played in the first half. Am I upset we lost, yeah, but as the Ravens are my favorite AFC team it's hard to be super pissed.
It ended up being a great fucking game though. Congrats to Thanas and Ando. I know you guys were sweating fucking bullets at the end.
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Yeah, we were. Kaepernick is the real deal. Thanks for being gracious.
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WOOOOHOOOO. SUPERBOWL.
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Well, Baltimore city's not getting any sleep tonight 
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Wooooooooooooooo!
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