Where Tolerance Meets Stupidity

[Lord_Of_Change 9]

Posted here because it seems to fit.

I have discovered a truly hideous corner of the internet, a blog run by a sociopath, for sociopaths:

[redacted]

Three things about that horrid little site shock and offend me beyond all words:

1. The fetid place hasn't been wiped from the internet and its owner arrested by now.

2. Sociopathy is seen by these creatures as just another harmless variation from normal human thought and behaviour.

3. They count Lady Gaga amongst their morally debased, empathy-void kind.

There are no words, no thoughts, to sufficiently describe this slander to the woman and affront to all her family, friends, and fans.

But the other two things are horrible enough on their own. What we are seeing here is the point where tolerance of different behaviours turns into stupidity of the very worst kind: self-destruction. If sociopathy is widely tolerated in our society even for a moment then it will collapse. Sociopathy is inherently parasitic, and it breeds serial killings, genocides, and all the other ills of mankind.

If I was American, I'd contact the FBI.

[Simon_Jester]

...Are they actually talking about committing crimes, or having committed crimes? The FBI doesn't arrest people for the "crime" of being insane.

And as to the "OH MY GOD THEY SLANDERED LADY GAGA" thing... how many times has someone called someone else a "sociopath" on this very website for expressing an opinion they don't like? Is it only slander when it happens to someone famous?

[Panzersharkcat]

Seriously. There are going to be idiots on the Internet. It's a big place. 90% of it will be complete shit. Don't worry about it and stop looking at sites that piss you off.

[Grog]

1.Yeah crazy people should not be allowed to run blogs. That would destroy the internet.

2. Uhm they seem to be perfectly aware that if more people where like them then society would colapse for example.

3. As someone said calling people sociopaths is pretty common here.

[Alyeska]

Posting a link without actually saying anything of substance about said link is bad form.

I get that you don't like these people, but I have no idea why because you have said nothing about them. Not all of us can click on any link at any time. Would you mind giving us a recap on what this group is about and what they support?

[Dominus Atheos]

Oh god. Someone read the word "sociopath" in a sentence and it didn't contain the words "imprison" "kill" or "horribly mutilate", so they got incredibly offended and started demanding that the sociopath in question be arrested. (I suspect the OP wouldn't be too saddened if the person died or was horribly mutilated either)

Reading that site, it seems to me that the Lord_Of_Change is more dangerous than the site owner.

[Dominus Atheos]

Posting a link without actually saying anything of substance about said link is bad form.

I get that you don't like these people, but I have no idea why because you have said nothing about them. Not all of us can click on any link at any time. Would you mind giving us a recap on what this group is about and what they support?

A frequent question I get is how can sociopaths be good? Why would sociopaths choose to "do the right thing" if they don't feel the emotion "guilt" like everyone else does?

We all use short cuts to make decisions. It would be impossible for us to make a fully informed, reasoned decision every time such a decision was necessary. Empaths use emotional shortcuts, sociopaths don't/can't, so we come up with some other shortcut. A lot of sociopaths use shortcuts like "anything goes," or "I am only in it for me," but I have also met/talked to many sociopaths who have a more "principled" approach to life. I have met sociopaths who are utilitarian, a la Jeremy Bentham, or even Rawlsian. Some of my readers use religious codes to guide their actions. I use the shortcut of economic efficiency, gap-filled by Judeo-Christian ethics, which for me acts like a mental/emotional exercise regime -- monotonous drudgery, but ultimately good for mental/emotional health. The one thing that sociopath "codes" tend to have in common is that they don't fully map with prevailing social norms.

ZOMG ARREST TEH PSYCHO!!! CALL THE FBI B4 HE KILLS EVERYONE!!!!1one!1!1!!!eleven

[Rahvin]

Sociopathy is inherently parasitic, and it breeds serial killings, genocides, and all the other ills of mankind.

...you do realize that the vast majority of sociopaths do not in fact go on serial-killer rampages or initiate genocide, right? You do also realize that some people who are not sociopaths will still do those things, right?

Do you have any reason to suspect that the owner or some reader of that blog has committed or plans to commit or is even likely to commit the crimes you're hyperventilating about?

Sociopathy shouldn't be encouraged necessarily, but there are other incentive systems available besides emotional reaction. Is there really a difference to society whether a person does not commit murder because he doesn't want to risk imprisonment or execution, or that same person does not commit murder because he would feel guilty? Either way, there has been no murder.

[Alkaloid]

I'm also quite comfortable declaring that 90% of the people on that website (or any group that publicly declares itself to be made up of sociopaths) are not in fact sociopaths but are simply angry arseholes who like to rant about how they don't need other people and like indulging in fantasies where they are a cold blooded manipulative lone wolf type who gives no fucks about anything but themselves when they aren't whining about how girls never go for nice guys. The simple fact that they are trying to get a group of people to validate them through the site indicates that they aren't sociopaths at all.

[Havok]

Yeah, it strikes me as odd that real sociopaths would give two fucking shits if people understood them or their thought processes.
The site is probably just a giant troll/attention grab meant to sucker stupid people.

Mission accomplished.

[Dominus Atheos]

I'm also quite comfortable declaring that 90% of the people on that website (or any group that publicly declares itself to be made up of sociopaths) are not in fact sociopaths but are simply angry arseholes who like to rant about how they don't need other people and like indulging in fantasies where they are a cold blooded manipulative lone wolf type who gives no fucks about anything but themselves when they aren't whining about how girls never go for nice guys. The simple fact that they are trying to get a group of people to validate them through the site indicates that they aren't sociopaths at all.

You're a dumbass. There isn't any "group" on that website, it's just one person who's trying to get other people to understand sociopaths a little better. Some people obviously need it.

[Bakustra]

One of the things that makes mental disorders hard to treat is the sheer social stigma surrounding them renders sufferers unlikely to share information about their disorder with other people, unlikely to seek treatment, and often they end up mistreated and in dead-end shit jobs. Treating sociopathic individuals with dignity and appropriate responses is really the same thing as treating somebody in a wheelchair with dignity, but when it comes to the mind, we are terrified and act shitty. In fact, as long as we assume that sociopaths cannot act morally, as opposed to having difficulties acting morally under normal circumstances, then we end up with self-fulfilling prophecies and with a class of the medically unwell who will have even greater difficulties getting treated.

[Alkaloid]

You're a dumbass. There isn't any "group" on that website, it's just one person who's trying to get other people to understand sociopaths a little better. Some people obviously need it.

I'm terribly sorry. When people use terms like 'these creatures,' 'they' and the website contains a 'forum' I typically associate it with multiple people. I understand now that my entire concept of pluralities was wrong, and will attempt to refrain from referring to multiple people as a 'group' in future.

[Count Chocula]

Look at the bright side: thanks to this site, we know where our next crop of politicians are coming from!

EDIT: OK I just read the first page. The posters strike me as cold, not-quite-normal humans who are completely self-centered and seeking attention. I find it curious that none of them seem to care about others supporting their mindsets, they're like electrons in an orbit around a neutron and uninvolved with the other posters. Curious.

[Skgoa]

People who have a slight damage to their psyche aren't all crazy axe-murderers and actually are pretty normal and nuanced guys? WHO KNEW?
What's next, a marxist who doesn't want to evict you from your home at gunpoint?

Many readers have asked me how sociopaths respond to feelings of loss, either a break up, a death, etc. I discussed this once myself in the context of fungibility. A sociopath reader agreed to share her own experiences regarding the loss of a partner.

He was the ultimate empath. Not blind to my sociopathy at all. Yet he embraced me and loved me unconditionally. It was an intense and giving sort of love, which suited my selfish love just fine. We were puzzle pieces.


One morning, I stopped hearing from him. No cheerful "Good morning, beautiful" text. One day turned to two days. On the third day (he didn't rise again), his brother sent out a mass message saying he was involved in a motor vehicle collision and was in critical, comatose condition. I expected to feel like I'd been sucker punched. Instead, I felt strangely the same. As devoid as I'd always been. I really thought it would work out and I'd get the sociopath's version of happily ever after, haha. We were planning on an extended vacation, just the two of us, for later that summer. After he passed, my sister, with whom he was on friendly terms, revealed to me that he had been planning on proposing that summer. She'd been sworn to secrecy.


Shit sucks. But you get over it. For those of us who have an emotional deficit, it's an easier and quicker process. I still miss his presence and unconditional acceptance, but I have no intentions of putting a halt to my life for a body that's six feet under. I'm currently dating a guy who displays distinct sociopathic traits and that has its own problems. I don't concern myself with what-ifs with the dead, unless it's the zombie apocalypse.

Man, TEH EVULZ just reeks from that, doesn't it? We should burn them all at the stake!

[Ziggy Stardust]

3. They count Lady Gaga amongst their morally debased, empathy-void kind.

Why is this the bolded bit, anyway?

Other posters here have already showed that you are retarded in your conceptions of both what sociopathy actually IS, and what this site seems to be for.

But, even in your own bizarre little world, why is the Lady Gaga bit given precedence/emphasis over the whole collapse of society thing? I mean, I guess you are just a moron, but still, get your ill-conceived priorities straight.

[Dalton]

Can we please not inspire an invasion in either direction? Thread locked. I'm removing the link too.