NFL 08 Thread

Archon · Post by **Archon** » 2008-01-20 10:22pm

Go Patriots!

Anybody but a stinking New York team.

muse · Post by **muse** » 2008-01-20 10:32pm

SPC Brungardt wrote:I went down with the home team, which even in a 1-15 season is more noble than bandwagoning.

SPC Brungardt wrote:Man, in 3 hours I've gone from being a Chargers fan, to a Packers fan, and now, I'm a Giants fan.

Hmmm....

FSTargetDrone · Post by **FSTargetDrone** » 2008-01-20 10:35pm

NomAnor15 wrote:No kidding. I thought it was pretty funny that the coach seemed to be yelling at him a lot the first time he missed, and couldn't even bring himself to do that the second time around.

I think that may simply be due to the cold. Did you see how red Coughlin's face was? I think if he tried to talk, his skin would have cracked! He did not look well.

Patrick Degan · Post by **Patrick Degan** » 2008-01-20 10:54pm

Damn, what a game. One for the books. Overtime on the Frozen Tundra.

Superbowl's going to seem a bit anticlimatic.

NomAnor15 · Post by **NomAnor15** » 2008-01-20 10:54pm

FSTargetDrone wrote: I think that may simply be due to the cold. Did you see how red Coughlin's face was? I think if he tried to talk, his skin would have cracked! He did not look well.

Heh, that's what happens when the windchill is 25 degrees (Fahrenheit) below zero. Man I love Wisconsin. Still, it didn't seem to slow the players down much. Al Harris certainly seemed pretty 'heated'

. Oh man, bad puns abound.

Vaporous · Post by **Vaporous** » 2008-01-20 11:11pm

Go Giants!

Because hating Boston is among our most prized traditions.

Tsyroc · Post by **Tsyroc** » 2008-01-20 11:22pm

Anyone else get the vibe that the Packers were almost expecting the homefield advantage and cold to win this game for them? Maybe it would have if they had played the Cowboys or the Bucs but the Giants came into the game looking very prepared to play in the cold. Later in the game I thought the cold was bothering Favre more than it was bothering any of the Giants.

How about that shot where the Giants' running back lhad a chunk of his helmet chipped off when he went helmet to helmet with a Packer player.

I couldn't help but chuckle at how much Jimmy Johnson looked to be freezing his ass off.

It could have been my imagination but he looked like he had a faint shiver going just about every time the team was on camera. Maybe he should have worn a hat instead of just something over his ears.

Out of the FOX crew Terry Bradshaw seemed the least impacted by the cold, although Kurt Menefee put in a good showing considering he had no headgear on at all.

Honorable Mention · Post by **Honorable Mention** » 2008-01-20 11:28pm

Born and bred Giants fan. The Superbowl's going to be a party!

A-Wing_Slash · Post by **A-Wing_Slash** » 2008-01-21 12:30am

Fucking sweet. The Giants were terrible going into this season. If someone had told me they'd be playing for the Super Bowl, I would have laughed in their face. Sweet.

Patrick Degan wrote:Superbowl's going to seem a bit anticlimatic.

I'm not going to say that the Giants have any chance of winning, but they did play the Pats pretty close in the last regular season game. New England will almost certainly still win, but the Giants are going to keep it interesting.

Qwerty 42 · Post by **Qwerty 42** » 2008-01-21 12:12pm

I'm gonna put in my prediction now.

New York Giants versus New England with Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers

Sounds good to me.

Dark Flame · Post by **Dark Flame** » 2008-01-21 01:50pm

I'm really hoping for this upset to happen... Go Giants! I'd get more satisfaction out of seeing Tom Brady cry than seeing the '72 Dolphins cry.

Medic · Post by **Medic** » 2008-01-21 11:53pm

muse wrote:
SPC Brungardt wrote:I went down with the home team, which even in a 1-15 season is more noble than bandwagoning.

SPC Brungardt wrote:Man, in 3 hours I've gone from being a Chargers fan, to a Packers fan, and now, I'm a Giants fan.
Hmmm....

Cause cheering against a team is bandwagoning.

I consider bandwagoners to be actual fans of a team, especially when they have a hometeam they could cheer for but don't.

Do you not get the distinction? I'm not a Giants "fan" in that I give a fuck about the team, at this moment I'm cheering against the team that's kicked my team out of the post-season 2 years in a row, is that hard to understand? I'm sure most people merely voted AGAINST POTUS candidates, it's just like that.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2008-01-22 01:59am

Why is it "noble" to be loyal to a sports team? Do you feel that you owe them something? Was some sort of pact made? Are they even vaguely aware of your existence?

Medic · Post by **Medic** » 2008-01-22 02:04am

Darth Wong wrote:Why is it "noble" to be loyal to a sports team? Do you feel that you owe them something? Was some sort of pact made? Are they even vaguely aware of your existence?

I say noble in a joking manner but it's definitely annoying seeing some guy from god-knows-not-New-England, or god-knows-not-Dallas but wearing such jerseys and talking mountains of shit.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2008-01-22 02:09am

SPC Brungardt wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:Why is it "noble" to be loyal to a sports team? Do you feel that you owe them something? Was some sort of pact made? Are they even vaguely aware of your existence?
I say noble in a joking manner but it's definitely annoying seeing some guy from god-knows-not-New-England, or god-knows-not-Dallas but wearing such jerseys and talking mountains of shit.

Yes it is, but it's not because of his lack of loyalty to any particular team. It's because he is talking shit. Even if he was born and raised in Dallas, I would be annoyed at seeing someone talking shit and bragging about the Cowboys as if they were all his sons. Shouldn't it be possible to be a fan without being an asshole about it?

Schuyler Colfax · Post by **Schuyler Colfax** » 2008-01-22 03:58pm

So according to TMZ Tom Brady is walking around with a foot cast. I'd believe it but, considering the source no, not really.

Havok · Post by **Havok** » 2008-01-22 05:04pm

OK. A few things.

I told everyone at my place watching the Packers Giants game that the Giants were going to win, and win based on one thing.
Tom Coughlin had on fewer cold weather garments than Mike McCarthy. I don't know why this happens but it does. The coach that toughs out the weather better in less gear usually wins.

That was the second coldest temperature at game time in Green Bay since the Ice Bowl, so neither Farve nor any other player on the Giants or Packers have played in THAT cold of weather before.

If have new found respect for Philip Rivers. Having his knee scoped 5 days before the game and playing with a torn ligament is bad ass.

Tony Dungy is coming back for one more year. Right now, I am picking the Colts to win SB XLIII.

I am torn on whether I want the Pats to go 19-0 or not. I don't really care that much if they do, but the pro to it is shutting up the '72 Dolphins, who have just got obnoxious with their celebrating of a mediocre 14 game regular season and 3 OK post season wins. As far as I am concerned all the teams that have gone 18-1 already surpassed anything the Dolphins did in 72.
The con is that I can't stand Boston fans already and I am just straight up jealous of that fucking area and all the success they have had and are having with their sports teams, that, and it reminds me of how much I miss how it was around here in the 80s.

Another con would be Eli getting a SB ring and just fucking driving San Diego fans bat shit.

All that said, if the game is anywhere close to as emotional and competitive as the week 16 match up was, this could be one of the best SBs ever.

Havok · Post by **Havok** » 2008-01-22 05:05pm

Schuyler Colfax wrote:So according to TMZ Tom Brady is walking around with a foot cast. I'd believe it but, considering the source no, not really.

Believe it.

FSTargetDrone · Post by **FSTargetDrone** » 2008-01-22 08:51pm

havokeff wrote:
Schuyler Colfax wrote:So according to TMZ Tom Brady is walking around with a foot cast. I'd believe it but, considering the source no, not really.
Believe it.

S'truth, so sayeth the Boston Herald:

Source: Brady has high ankle sprain

By Karen Guregian

Tuesday, January 22, 2008

Photo by Matthew West/INFphoto, inset

Patriots quarterback Tom Brady is suffering from a high ankle sprain, according to a source familiar with the injury.

It’s a mild sprain, a second source indicated, and is not expected to pose a problem for the NFL’s MVP moving forward toward the Super Bowl in Arizona in 12 days.

This should alleviate some fears as Brady had been filmed wearing a protective boot on his right foot during the day yesterday, and tacitly acknowledged having some type of leg injury during his weekly radio appearance on WEEI’s “Dennis & Callahan.”

Brady, however, did stress that the problem was minor, he would be having treatment for it, and he would be ready for the Super Bowl.

Since the initial photographs were taken, the Pats quarterback has shed the removable cast.

Monday night, he was photographed wearing what appeared to be cowboy boots as he left dinner at an East Village nightspot with girlfriend Gisele Bundchen.

Late this morning, Brady was photographed leaving Bundchen’s apartment and walking to a cab. He returned at 4:30 p.m. On both occasions, he was not wearing the orthopedic, open-foot brace, nor was he walking with any noticeable limp. He was reportedly wearing Cordovan wingtips on his feet.

While questions were hurled at Brady as he walked, he chose to ignore reporters seeking information about his injury.

During the Pats’ first Super Bowl run in 2001, Brady suffered an ankle injury in the AFC Championship Game against Pittsburgh -- he had to be replaced by Drew Bledsoe -- but went on to play against the Rams.

He was the Super Bowl MVP of that game.

Qwerty 42 · Post by **Qwerty 42** » 2008-01-23 07:10pm

Before the New York fans get too excited, remember that Owens recovered from a more severe injury in 3 weeks.

All of which is besides the point, because Brady is not a scrambling man. He has Moss, Stallworth, and Welker to do his running for him.

Vaporous · Post by **Vaporous** » 2008-01-23 11:12pm

Darth Wong wrote:Shouldn't it be possible to be a fan without being an asshole about it?

Yes, but it wouldn't be nearly as fun.

Medic · Post by **Medic** » 2008-01-23 11:23pm

Qwerty 42 wrote:Before the New York fans get too excited, remember that Owens recovered from a more severe injury in 3 weeks.

All of which is besides the point, because Brady is not a scrambling man. He has Moss, Stallworth, and Welker to do his running for him.

AND Maroney. The constant 3 tight-end formations late in that game was a nasty shock: there's simply more big bodies flying around at the defense than most teams can handle, especially the Chargers whose only bad outings against the runs come against power-running teams. Jamal Williams is a stud but only one man and barring penetration by linebackers in the backfield (something extremely unlikely having seen how our top inside linebacker Stephen Cooper played against the Patriots: if Maroney cut back on a run and got good yardage, look for Cooper having been one of the guys to be trapped going in the wrong direction and not covering the backside gap, it was infuriating after the 3rd time I spotted it) it gives the running back a lot areas to exploit if just a few guys miss a gap or get knocked off the ball by a good block.

Darth Wong wrote:Yes it is, but it's not because of his lack of loyalty to any particular team. It's because he is talking shit. Even if he was born and raised in Dallas, I would be annoyed at seeing someone talking shit and bragging about the Cowboys as if they were all his sons. Shouldn't it be possible to be a fan without being an asshole about it?

Belated reply sorry but my thoughts are tough to collect after losses like that.

It should be possible to be a fan and not an asshole even if it's not common enough. Fundamentally though, I say you cheer for the home team cause if you really like the sport, you support them or you become just one more city withOUT a football team and that's just not something which could be good for a fan of the game. San Diego especially is a team where that's a concern, cause the years after our Super Bowl team we got bad and the Padres good (they even got a new stadium in downtown) and talk of moving the team became all too real.

Agreements have been reached that won't allow this to happen before something like 2012 now but it's not something I'd like to see in my lifetime, even if I am away from home 11+ months of the year. At the least, if we suck we can host Super Bowls and that stimulates the economy.

aerius · Post by **aerius** » 2008-01-23 11:53pm

SPC Brungardt wrote:Fundamentally though, I say you cheer for the home team cause if you really like the sport, you support them or you become just one more city withOUT a football team and that's just not something which could be good for a fan of the game. San Diego especially is a team where that's a concern, cause the years after our Super Bowl team we got bad and the Padres good (they even got a new stadium in downtown) and talk of moving the team became all too real.

Sometimes, a team doesn't deserve to be cheered, such as the Leafs in the NHL. They have ridiculous ticket prices, very limited ticket availability because all the tickets get handed over to corporate sponsors, oh, and the team exists for the sole purpose of making shitloads of money for the teachers' pension plan. I'll cheer for the Leafs if they're playing some hick team like Nashville, but against any of the Original 6 teams or Ottawa, Colorado, or any other respectable team, I ain't cheering for them.

Qwerty 42 · Post by **Qwerty 42** » 2008-01-24 05:02pm

the nearest team to us went to the Super Bowl a couple years back, and the atmosphere was infectious in the week leading up to the game. It was fun to be a part of, that's why I like home-teaming.

Tsyroc · Post by **Tsyroc** » 2008-01-25 10:25am

Just for fun, and because I'm not to attached to either outcome.

Reasons to want the NY Giants to win.

1. Underdogs
2. Super Bowl ring for long term vets & Coach Coughlin
3. Stick it to Tiki
4. Stick it to Shockey (although he'd still get a ring)
5. A good end to such a dramatic turn around.
6. It'd be kind of funny to see Eli be the Super Bowl winning quarterback while Peyton is the other Manning quarterback.

Reasons to want the Patriots to win.

1. 19-0 Would be cool
2. Shut the Fuckin' '72 Dolphins up
3. I think all the talking heads will be less annoying if the Pats win than if they lose.
4. Teddy Bruski is from the University of Arizona
5. Might as well have them win it all now because the Boston sports teams are going to start going down hill next year.

6. The final F U to the people who whine about "spygate".