[Discussion] Archiving SWvST, PSW, PST

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Re: [Discussion] Archiving SWvST, PSW, PST

Post by fgalkin » 2009-10-23 11:55am

Why? An all-ecompasing SF forum is better, not worse.

If someone wants to post their own universe in it, and people have in the past, they could put it in SF.

This is what the forum list will look like:

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Science Fiction
-Subforum Pure Star Wars
-Subforum Pure Star Trek
-Subform SW/ST
Fantasy
Fanfics
-Subforum Cleaned/Completed Fanfics

Science Logic and Morality
-Subforum Debating Help
-Subforum Library
-Subforum History (if we make it a subforum)
History (if it becomes it's own forum)
etc

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Re: [Discussion] Archiving SWvST, PSW, PST

Post by Darth Wong » 2009-10-23 12:06pm

I'm with fgalkin on this layout (with History on the front page), as stated previously. "vs" debates are a dying sector anyway; it's better to simply have people discuss sci-fi in general, and if any "vs" debates come up, they just appear in the same place.
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Re: [Discussion] Archiving SWvST, PSW, PST

Post by Coyote » 2009-10-23 12:18pm

That looks good and flows very naturally.
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Re: [Discussion] Archiving SWvST, PSW, PST

Post by Mr Bean » 2009-10-23 01:05pm

Can we take this to a vote since it has a decent chance of approval? Or better yet, does anyone have a counter option?

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Re: [Discussion] Archiving SWvST, PSW, PST

Post by Darth Wong » 2009-10-23 01:37pm

I think it's ready for a vote, although I won't do this one myself (I've done two in the last two days, so I feel like I should lay off a bit ;)).
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Re: [Discussion] Archiving SWvST, PSW, PST

Post by Connor MacLeod » 2009-10-23 04:07pm

Coyote wrote:Just to complicate matters--

Maybe start with an "All Science Fiction" section which further breaks down thusly:

Versus Threads (SWvST; & all others-- Bab5 vs. Galactica, whatever)
Pure Discussion (as it says-- discuss them on their own merits)

Maybe a section for obscure series or anything involving original content-- "Babylon 5 versus my own creation: the Black Nebula Imperium", etc(?).
If we wanted ot do that we could keep itjust "Sci fi Vs" and "Sci fi" technical/discussion". The first thread can be the vs thread for everything. Technical could be where "analyiss" threads like the stuff I do go, or where people ask various questions about sci fi universes or discuss various aspects (technical or otherwise)

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Re: [Discussion] Archiving SWvST, PSW, PST

Post by Ted C » 2009-10-23 04:28pm

Hotfoot wrote:My suggestion is to rename OSF to simply "Science Fiction" and to lock and archive the three mentioned forums either as subforums where new users can get information from them as needed.
I see no reason to lock them, there's not a lot of activity, but there is activity (SWvST is the least active, the others continue to get new posts at a slow but steady rate).

Making SWvST, PSW, and PST into sub-forums of a Science Fiction forum, on the other hand, seems perfectly reasonable.

Now that I think about it, though, we might just rename the SWvST forum to a "Versus Debate" forum so all the nBSG and SGU fans have an appropriate place to throw ships and troops at each other.
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Re: [Discussion] Archiving SWvST, PSW, PST

Post by GrandMasterTerwynn » 2009-10-23 06:55pm

Ted C wrote:
Hotfoot wrote:My suggestion is to rename OSF to simply "Science Fiction" and to lock and archive the three mentioned forums either as subforums where new users can get information from them as needed.
I see no reason to lock them, there's not a lot of activity, but there is activity (SWvST is the least active, the others continue to get new posts at a slow but steady rate).

Making SWvST, PSW, and PST into sub-forums of a Science Fiction forum, on the other hand, seems perfectly reasonable.

Now that I think about it, though, we might just rename the SWvST forum to a "Versus Debate" forum so all the nBSG and SGU fans have an appropriate place to throw ships and troops at each other.
Don't agree with making SWvST a general Sci-Fi debate forum. For traditional, historical reasons, I think it ought to stay as it is. Also, versus debates don't pop up often enough in the present OSF to merit splitting them all off into a dedicated SF debate forum/subforum.

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Re: [Discussion] Archiving SWvST, PSW, PST

Post by Mr Bean » 2009-10-23 06:58pm

We kept SW VS ST(As a subforum) for the simple reason
Nostalgia
It was the board's first and almost only forum way back in the day. It has a crap-ton of posts and it's dead. So we are stuffing it and putting it up on the mantle for all to admire.

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Re: [Discussion] Archiving SWvST, PSW, PST

Post by Dalton » 2009-10-26 05:41am

This board was an offshoot of alt.startrek.vs.starwars. The STvSW forum should remain intact as-is, as a subforum under a general Sci-Fi forum. As far as I'm concerned, any VS. threads can go in there.
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Re: [Discussion] Archiving SWvST, PSW, PST

Post by Thanas » 2009-10-27 11:16am

Darth Wong wrote:I'm with fgalkin on this layout (with History on the front page), as stated previously. "vs" debates are a dying sector anyway; it's better to simply have people discuss sci-fi in general, and if any "vs" debates come up, they just appear in the same place.
So can we vote on this now? Because I really do not want this thread to just die.

Iif nothing else, I would like to have some clarity on the status of the history forum.
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Re: [Discussion] Archiving SWvST, PSW, PST

Post by Dalton » 2009-10-27 11:30am

I'll put up a vote.
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Re: [Discussion] Archiving SWvST, PSW, PST

Post by Thanas » 2009-10-27 11:31am

^Thanks, Dalton.

Much appreciated.
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