[Motion] Dennis Toy.

[The Duchess of Zeon]

I hereby move that based on the additional offences characterized in this thread that Dennis Toy, who previously only escaped punishment on a technicality due to the fact that his vote was brought forth around the same time as the April Fools Fiasco, be submitted to punishment once again, reviewing that he was Discussed here, and voted on here with the aforementioned results.

This considered, I propose that a new punishment vote be convened, offering the following punishment options:

1. Temp Ban of One Month, permanent loss of sig and av privileges, resetting his post-count.

2. Temp Ban of One Month only.

In both cases, I also propose a special probation measure, namely, that we grant the authority for any administrator to permban Dennis Toy at any time said admin sees him engaged in any rule violation after his return from his temp-ban (if it is approved), without need to discuss or justify the action. Such a probation measure should be in effect for six months after his return.

[Edi]

Marina, that last bit is superfluous. Dennis Toy has been warned repeatedly, hauled up in front of the Senate and then warned again later, so if he actually pisses off any admin sufficiently, the Senate will not have even the time to consider discussing him before his head gets its own special mounting in Parting Shots. The reason why he is being discussed here is that he has not yet managed to cross that insta-ban threshold, but it's not for lack of trying.

So far as I see, even a permanent ban could well be included in the poll options given his blatant admission of just trolling for kicks.

[Spyder]

Dennis, welcome back. It seems that we didn't give you the attention you deserved last time you were here.

Let us rectify this little this little oversight.

Motion seconded.

[SirNitram]

I add my support to permenant ban. Dennis has been shown that he will get in trouble, and just backtalks. Is there anything he's contributed to the board?

[NecronLord]

Where's the 'cut his balls off, rub salt in the wound, and lock him in a diving bell sunk down the Challenger Deep of the Mariana trench' option?

In both cases, I also propose a special probation measure, namely, that we grant the authority for any administrator to

The senate is not granted the power to dispute the decisions of or constrain the administrators in any way. That measure is irrelevant. Regional governors have direct control, don'cha know.

I'm for a permanant ban.

[The Duchess of Zeon]

Where's the 'cut his balls off, rub salt in the wound, and lock him in a diving bell sunk down the Challenger Deep of the Mariana trench' option?

In both cases, I also propose a special probation measure, namely, that we grant the authority for any administrator to

The senate is not granted the power to dispute the decisions of or constrain the administrators in any way. That measure is irrelevant. Regional governors have direct control, don'cha know.

I'm for a permanant ban.

Would everyone be in favour of a vote set up with a single "Permban/Tempban" option where if 60% support it he's permbanned and if 50 - 60% support it he's temp banned?

[The Duchess of Zeon]

Also I'll note that I was explicitly encouraging rather than trying to constrain an action with that proposal. Sort of like that guy who was declared a Dead Man Walking to Dalton--we essentially declare open season on Dennis Toy.

[Patrick Degan]

Zap him. It took about two posts to see that's he's degenerated to mere trollery and given his past record it seems he's used up his reserve of luck.

[Surlethe]

He's intentionally trolling. What else are we supposed to make of "nope cause this is too fun "?

I move that we consider Her Grace's suggestion for a poll with a single "Tempban/Permban" option, with the requisite "Abstain" option as well.

[The Duchess of Zeon]

It's elegant because it requires 60% to get a permban but if we get less than that we can still smack him with a one-month tempban then. There would also need to be a "not guilty" option per usual.

[Spyder]

My motion.

Four options, temp, perm, abstain and not guilty.

Not guilty requires 41% to pass.
Permanent Ban requires 60% to pass.
All other outcomes result in a Temp ban

Still results in an immediate decision and caters for anyone that would prefer to specifically state a temp ban.

[GrandMasterTerwynn]

A temp-ban wouldn't really improve him. I'm going to throw my support behind just throwing his ass off the board and being done with it.

[The Duchess of Zeon]

I move for Dennis Toy to be temp-banned effective immediately under the Senatorial option to temp-ban someone while their ban vote is taking place to prevent them from spamming up the board or otherwise going nuts. It seems that provision is tailor made for someone like him.

[Broomstick]

He's had his chances. Set up the poll so we can vote and get it over with.

[The Duchess of Zeon]

It appears we have full support for a permban/tempban option thread at this time. Will some governor kindly get this show on the road?

[Edi]

Nothing to prevent a Senator from starting the poll.

[Beowulf]

Nothing to prevent a Senator from starting the poll.

Except, you know, the rules.

[Hotfoot]

Nothing to prevent a Senator from starting the poll.

Except, you know, the rules.

Which rule? There's nothing stated in the rules stated by Robbo saying only governors can start ban polls, and there are several examples of various polls started by senators.

[Spyder]

Too slow, ban faster!

[The Duchess of Zeon]

Well, if the general concurrence of the Senate is that the "Serious votes" which were restricted to Governors do not include ban votes, then I guess we have just effectively asserted more power, like a proper legislature. So let us ban on!

[Beowulf]

1. Clear as mud - As mentioned in above, you guys get to discuss board policy, and discuss points raised by others. You can also air any problems you may believe exists that needs addressed. There are doubtless other types of thread that will come into existance on the Forum, so they need a heads up in the title :

[Discussion] = a talk about board policies.
[Point] = A point of interest either your own or one that has been passed to you for discussion by an other board member (remember Rule 4).
[Problem?] = Something you feel is wrong and needs to be debated or cleared up. However it should be something that can only be mentioned here (board software issues are handled in OT for instance).
[Vote] = These will only be started by Governors and above in the case of serious votes.
[Voted] = A vote thread that is closed. When the title of a poll is amended to this, then too late the poll is closed.
[Member] - Thread for nominating new members. A new one every 2nd of the month.
[Poll] = Something silly, a perfect example would be Skimmer's Budget Poll thread. the Board automatically adds this so you don't need to worry.

I'd think that bannings are serious votes.

[The Duchess of Zeon]

Apparently the consensus of everyone else is that they are not.

[CmdrWilkens]

Moreover from a purely technical standpoint the Dennis Toy thread is a [POLL] thread since it doesn't have the [VOTE] tag.

Also I'm just getting power hungry and claiming Whip makes me cool enough to start [VOTE] threads .

[The Duchess of Zeon]

Moreover from a purely technical standpoint the Dennis Toy thread is a [POLL] thread since it doesn't have the [VOTE] tag.

Also I'm just getting power hungry and claiming Whip makes me cool enough to start [VOTE] threads :D.

I see no reason why you shouldn't be able to.

I also think we should look into electing a Proconsul to take over the duties of Chancellor until Robbo returns.

[CmdrWilkens]

Senate rules already allow that in the Consul absence the duties shall devolve to the Executors and the Emperor so aside from my own personal power grabbing I think we should be okay.