[Discussion] A Commendable Improvement

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[Discussion] A Commendable Improvement

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In this thread, user "creationistalltheway", a Fundamentalist Moron from before my time here, has indicated he is no longer a creationist (though he uses the term "Old-Earth Creationist", he is actually a theistic evolutionist). Since he has the balls to admit past mistakes and is no longer a fundie anyway, I think it would be appropriate to remove his derogatory title or change it to "Ex-Fundamentalist Moron", permit him a discretionary name change (should he so desire), and further invite him to become a contributing member of the boards.

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I would support a change of his name. As strictly a matter of keeping with our established methods, there should be a short period for him to show the improvement before we remove his derogatory title.
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This might sound like a stupid question, but has he asked for any changes to his name or title yet, or if he even plans to do more than just pop in to give us an update? It might be cool to, y'know, wait until he asks for a specific name or title, maybe...?
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Zaia wrote:This might sound like a stupid question, but has he asked for any changes to his name or title yet, or if he even plans to do more than just pop in to give us an update? It might be cool to, y'know, wait until he asks for a specific name or title, maybe...?
Well, he was titled, so the moderators can revoke that on whim if he's improved. As for his name, yes, it would be reasonable to wait for his input before discussing changing that.
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SirNitram wrote:I would support a change of his name. As strictly a matter of keeping with our established methods, there should be a short period for him to show the improvement before we remove his derogatory title.
Actually, you're wrong, Nitram:
There have been quite a few others since then, but I don't want to bother listing them. Let's just say that there are a lot of fundie morons in the world. Moreover, there's no point listing methods of getting off the "Fundamentalist Moron" list. People like that are immune to logic and will never change, barring brain transplant surgery.
That's what the rules say on the matter. Since our friend has provided proof that they are essentially shattered into little pieces, we may have to change the details as a result of this precedent. For the moment, there is no precedent on how to get off the list, so I suggest that he simply have his title amended with an "ex-".
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If we're revoking his title, I think we should revoke it entirely so it's just the usual. Having "ex" in front of his current title is a bit like a continual punishment for something that we'd be acknowledging isn't wrong anymore.
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We just give him a regular title and he can get a name change after a bit.

And honestly, I say let Mike decide on the issue. The rules are there as guidelines. No more, no less, not set in stone for the moderators or admins to be bound by.
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I'm not sure if I still need to clarify, but my overall view is this: only those who claim to follow God should be held accountable by any other person to live according to His laws.

In other words, my interpretation of Scripture is not liberal in the Episcopalian sense, condoning gay pastors and so forth. If you claim to believe Scripture, I think it's inexcusable to blatantly disregard it, especially for a pastor.

But, the government isn't about forcing Biblical morals--just those which are, mostly, universal and logical. Since I believe in a democracy, and not a theocracy, I would vote in favor of gay marriage.
I believe this post shows how far the young man has come.
Remove his title... give him one appropriate to his rank as a normal poster, and let's see where he goes from here.
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Zaia wrote:This might sound like a stupid question, but has he asked for any changes to his name or title yet, or if he even plans to do more than just pop in to give us an update? It might be cool to, y'know, wait until he asks for a specific name or title, maybe...?
With respect to the name change, I thought we might open the door to it if he wants to change it, not force it on him. If he doesn't want to participate further, that's cool. If he doesn't want to change his name, that's cool, too. But I think we could at least offer it, and see if he takes us up on it or not.
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LadyTevar wrote:
I'm not sure if I still need to clarify, but my overall view is this: only those who claim to follow God should be held accountable by any other person to live according to His laws.

In other words, my interpretation of Scripture is not liberal in the Episcopalian sense, condoning gay pastors and so forth. If you claim to believe Scripture, I think it's inexcusable to blatantly disregard it, especially for a pastor.

But, the government isn't about forcing Biblical morals--just those which are, mostly, universal and logical. Since I believe in a democracy, and not a theocracy, I would vote in favor of gay marriage.
I believe this post shows how far the young man has come.
Remove his title... give him one appropriate to his rank as a normal poster, and let's see where he goes from here.
I fully concur, it takes quite a bit to make a statement such as that and it would be disingeneous of us to simply put "ex" in front of his name. Title removal and allowing him to carry that based on his postcount seems best.
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Yes, just normalize relations with him and start with a clean slate.
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For someone like him, clean slate is good. It takes some character to come back and apologize the way he did.
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Since we seem to be in agreement, I would like to ask a mod to please remove his title.
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His title has been removed. *salutes*
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