Dominus Atheos

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Dominus Atheos

Post by Knife » 2009-08-05 01:42am

Not able to put this up in the senate: I want to place this here.

To be fair, I voted for this forum and have learned to hate it since. That said, I want to put up this posters history and agonizing posts up for the plebs. I am tired of scrolling down through acers of text to read his shit because he is dumber than a Vulcan and can't round off.

Can this body censure this fucker to the point he can look at his own posts and limit them? I ask you fellow posters such.
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But as far as board culture in general, I do think that young male overaggression is a contributing factor to the general atmosphere of hostility. It's not SOS and the Mess throwing hand grenades all over the forum- Red

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Re: Dominus Atheos

Post by Bounty » 2009-08-05 10:25am

Links to offending posts please? All I can find are OP's with a lot of quoted text, but as far as I know there's no rule against that; posting full articles is even recommended.

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Re: Dominus Atheos

Post by Oni Koneko Damien » 2009-08-05 12:54pm

I don't really see what the problem is here. He has a habit of posting speculation and screeching about how Obama or whomever is truly a failure for human decency or whatever. But really, every time he's posted one of those threads, he's rather quickly smacked down, occasionally by mods as well. I figure he's being watched, and if he becomes a problem, correction will be handed down from above.
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Re: Dominus Atheos

Post by General Zod » 2009-08-05 01:54pm

Bounty wrote:Links to offending posts please? All I can find are OP's with a lot of quoted text, but as far as I know there's no rule against that; posting full articles is even recommended.
Ops with massive info-dumps of multiple articles and almost no relevant commentary are irritating, though I don't think they're violating any rule per se. It's just headache inducing to try and slog through multiple pages of text when there's no clear point being made and only a useless no-thought one liner at the end. I think Edi's made threats to insta-flush his posts before, though.
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Re: Dominus Atheos

Post by ray245 » 2009-08-05 02:03pm

General Zod wrote:
Bounty wrote:Links to offending posts please? All I can find are OP's with a lot of quoted text, but as far as I know there's no rule against that; posting full articles is even recommended.
Ops with massive info-dumps of multiple articles and almost no relevant commentary are irritating, though I don't think they're violating any rule per se. It's just headache inducing to try and slog through multiple pages of text when there's no clear point being made and only a useless no-thought one liner at the end. I think Edi's made threats to insta-flush his posts before, though.
Did he even heed Edi's warning?
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Re: Dominus Atheos

Post by Havok » 2009-08-05 05:47pm

You are asking for the House of Commons to censure Dominus Atheos?
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Re: Dominus Atheos

Post by Bounty » 2009-08-05 05:50pm

It's just headache inducing to try and slog through multiple pages of text when there's no clear point being made and only a useless no-thought one liner at the end. I think Edi's made threats to insta-flush his posts before, though.
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Re: Dominus Atheos

Post by The Romulan Republic » 2009-08-05 05:52pm

Havok wrote:You are asking for the House of Commons to censure Dominus Atheos?
Yeah, I wondered about that too. As much as I support the HoC, we don't actually have, you know, any real power. :)

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Re: Dominus Atheos

Post by Thanas » 2009-08-05 05:53pm

Yeah, that is a bit impossible. Unless you wanted to start a thread in which you can call DA an idiot and tell him you don't like his style...in that case, you have achieved your goal.

But the HoC cannot censure anyone. Well, it can, but that censure is of as much relevance as a bicycle being stolen in China.

Just curious - why can't this be brought up for discussion in the senate?
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Re: Dominus Atheos

Post by Samuel » 2009-08-05 07:17pm

Probably as a test run to see if there is enough support for this and to scare DA into acting differently.

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Re: Dominus Atheos

Post by CmdrWilkens » 2009-08-05 10:41pm

Thanas wrote:Just curious - why can't this be brought up for discussion in the senate?
The subject can be, Knife was refering to the software limitation for him not anything else or at least that is what I gathered.
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Re: Dominus Atheos

Post by Knife » 2009-08-06 01:20am

The Romulan Republic wrote:
Havok wrote:You are asking for the House of Commons to censure Dominus Atheos?
Yeah, I wondered about that too. As much as I support the HoC, we don't actually have, you know, any real power. :)
It serves two purposes. One, to see general support for the issue, and two, as a way to get Senatorial support to transfer over to the Senate.
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But as far as board culture in general, I do think that young male overaggression is a contributing factor to the general atmosphere of hostility. It's not SOS and the Mess throwing hand grenades all over the forum- Red

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Re: Dominus Atheos

Post by Big Phil » 2009-08-06 02:57am

The Romulan Republic wrote:
Havok wrote:You are asking for the House of Commons to censure Dominus Atheos?
Yeah, I wondered about that too. As much as I support the HoC, we don't actually have, you know, any real power. :)
Neither does the Senate; all they can do is wave their arms dramatically or go run to daddy Wong and his peeps to tattle on those who are misbehaving.
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Re: Dominus Atheos

Post by Phantasee » 2009-08-09 12:32pm

While we're on the topic of annoying OP writers, can someone please let Patrick Degan know that his articles are almost impossible to read when he quotes them in italics? Quote boxes already make things difficult to read on most of the themes, but the italics is just too much. I used to think it was just my monitor, but after getting a nice big new one, I still get a headache reading his posts.
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Re: Dominus Atheos

Post by Themightytom » 2009-08-09 01:31pm

Phantasee wrote:While we're on the topic of annoying OP writers, can someone please let Patrick Degan know that his articles are almost impossible to read when he quotes them in italics? Quote boxes already make things difficult to read on most of the themes, but the italics is just too much. I used to think it was just my monitor, but after getting a nice big new one, I still get a headache reading his posts.

You could always just go to the direct link? I usually do that anyway.

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Re: Dominus Atheos

Post by Uraniun235 » 2009-08-10 01:14am

Knife wrote:That said, I want to put up this posters history and agonizing posts up for the plebs.
Just do it already, if you want a callout thread post a callout thread.
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Re: Dominus Atheos

Post by Knife » 2009-08-10 11:48am

Uraniun235 wrote:
Knife wrote:That said, I want to put up this posters history and agonizing posts up for the plebs.
Just do it already, if you want a callout thread post a callout thread.

It would appear that there is not that much interest in the issue. I was going to let it die, but with your post, perhaps I should just retract the suggestion. I drop the subject.
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Re: Dominus Atheos

Post by Bounty » 2009-08-10 11:51am

Did you at any point contact Dominus Atheos about this personally?

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Post by Manus Celer Dei » 2009-08-10 06:47pm

Uraniun235 wrote:
Knife wrote:That said, I want to put up this posters history and agonizing posts up for the plebs.
Just do it already, if you want a callout thread post a callout thread.
A testing subforum for Helldump-style callouts would be great fun.
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Re: Dominus Atheos

Post by The Spartan » 2009-08-10 06:58pm

Eh. Maybe for a little bit. It'd be little more than the Spam Thread that fgalkin once posted in Testing where being spammy was okay, but that was only fun for, what, a month? Maybe?
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Re: Dominus Atheos

Post by Uraniun235 » 2009-08-11 03:57am

Manus Celer Dei wrote: A testing subforum for Helldump-style callouts would be great fun.
No, it wouldn't. If you have an actual complaint about someone being a problem poster on the forum, and have taken the time to compile a substantial pile of quotes and thread links as supporting evidence, that sort of thread would be better suited for the Senate or the Commons or HOS or basically a forum where people post seriously. Everything that would be left for the "testing subforum" would either be parody/non-serious "lol fuck you" threads - which don't need their own subforum - or terrible butthurt retaliatory threads which just serve as big witless flame threads, which we don't need to support or encourage at all (okay maybe there would be some unintentional comedy but it would get annoying).
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Re: Dominus Atheos

Post by The Duchess of Zeon » 2009-08-11 06:04am

I see nothing wrong with Dominus Atheos. He is providing information to people, which is according to the rules. If he refuses to elaborate on that information with commentary, then he will be called into account by posters as part of the regular debating process, and will lose or gain respect based on his responses. This thread is, I would submit, truly irrelevant. If you think he is advocating things you dislike, read the information to make sure that doesn't disprove your own beliefs, and then debate with him--this is straightforward. Unless any of the moderators feel that his posts are not providing anything useful to the board with their current level of content, why should we be concerned?
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Re: Dominus Atheos

Post by Edi » 2009-08-11 01:34pm

Dominus Atheos is currently well within parameters for normal posting and has also per previous PM discussion some weeks ago agreed to post threads with blog posts with the [Op-Ed] notification, which he also has done mostly.

There is no problem with his posting the threads he does, though there has been issue with conduct in some discussions resulting from them, but those are all resolved issues. There is no call for this thread at present. If something happens to change the situation, it is far more likely that the moderator staff will just deal with it directly, but I'm not expecting anything of the sort to happen.

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Re: Dominus Atheos

Post by Kuja » 2009-08-12 04:03pm

As I said before, it's not a proper Dominus thread without "a six-page-two-movie-three-picture-double-post infodump." Sometimes that's intruiging. Sometimes it's annoying as hell. But you know damn well what you're getting yourself into when you see that name and click that link.
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