[Discussion]: [Discussion] VI for Ryan Thunder?

A failed experiment whereby board users were invited to advise the Senate, and instead attempted to replace the Senate.

Should Ryan Thunder get a VI?

Poll ended at 2009-05-24 10:53pm

Yes
15
44%
Title him "Impervious to Reason"
15
44%
No
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9%
Abstainyourunderwear
0
No votes
None of the Above
1
3%
 
Total votes: 34

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Re: [Discussion]: [Discussion] VI for Ryan Thunder?

Post by Coyote » 2009-05-24 08:32pm

HoC vote & discussion threads are not binding; they are there to allow Senate & Mods to follow the general mood of the board about certain subjects. Since they're not binding, the rules of conduct regarding them are relaxed. Also, if the thread is cavalier and humorous, that can also be telling about the mood of the HoC regarding an issue.
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Re: [Discussion]: [Discussion] VI for Ryan Thunder?

Post by Knife » 2009-05-25 11:43am

Phantasee wrote:Seriously? You guys are spamming a HoC thread as if it were in Testing. And here I thought Senators were supposed to show us how to do it right.
Thanks, and thank you for showing us how to do Coyote's job for him.
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But as far as board culture in general, I do think that young male overaggression is a contributing factor to the general atmosphere of hostility. It's not SOS and the Mess throwing hand grenades all over the forum- Red

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Re: [Discussion]: [Discussion] VI for Ryan Thunder?

Post by muse » 2009-05-25 01:21pm

Since I lost my job, I propose that you guys donate some money to me so I can find him and kick him in the balls. I shall film a video of the event and post it on Youtube.
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Re: [Discussion]: [Discussion] VI for Ryan Thunder?

Post by The Spartan » 2009-05-25 01:29pm

muse wrote:Since I lost my job, I propose that you guys donate some money to me so I can find him and kick him in the balls. I shall film a video of the event and post it on Youtube.
I'll only agree to that if the Senate agrees to allow this in lieu of the VI title.

I mean, c'mon, if we're already kicking him the balls...
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Re: [Discussion]: [Discussion] VI for Ryan Thunder?

Post by Samuel » 2009-05-25 01:35pm

muse wrote:Since I lost my job, I propose that you guys donate some money to me so I can find him and kick him in the balls. I shall film a video of the event and post it on Youtube.
Dude, we aren't ready for the transition were we start taxing members, raise our own militia or own group property... yet :twisted:

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Re: [Discussion]: [Discussion] VI for Ryan Thunder?

Post by fgalkin » 2009-05-25 10:45pm

Phantasee wrote:Seriously? You guys are spamming a HoC thread as if it were in Testing. And here I thought Senators were supposed to show us how to do it right.
Nah, we just figured that HoC=Testing by another name.

Have a very nice day.
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Re: [Discussion]: [Discussion] VI for Ryan Thunder?

Post by Oskuro » 2009-05-26 05:02am

fgalkin wrote:Nah, we just figured that HoC=Testing by another name.
I can't help but read HoS instead of HoC.
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Re: [Discussion]: [Discussion] VI for Ryan Thunder?

Post by RedImperator » 2009-05-26 09:01am

fgalkin wrote:
Phantasee wrote:Seriously? You guys are spamming a HoC thread as if it were in Testing. And here I thought Senators were supposed to show us how to do it right.
Nah, we just figured that HoC=Testing by another name.

Have a very nice day.
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Since when? I have my complaints about the HoC, but I don't think that warrants a bunch of Senators stomping around going RARGH BLARGH FUCK YOU PLEBES and ignoring basic board rules.
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Re: [Discussion]: [Discussion] VI for Ryan Thunder?

Post by Ryan Thunder » 2009-05-26 09:17am

RedImperator wrote:Since when? I have my complaints about the HoC, but I don't think that warrants a bunch of Senators stomping around going RARGH BLARGH FUCK YOU PLEBES and ignoring basic board rules.
It's probably because they're liable to come to conclusions that they don't like. Like giving me a title other than VI.

Just for the record, after reading over some of that old shit, I think I've earned it...

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Re: [Discussion]: [Discussion] VI for Ryan Thunder?

Post by Edi » 2009-05-26 09:56am

RedImperator wrote:
fgalkin wrote:
Phantasee wrote:Seriously? You guys are spamming a HoC thread as if it were in Testing. And here I thought Senators were supposed to show us how to do it right.
Nah, we just figured that HoC=Testing by another name.

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin
Since when? I have my complaints about the HoC, but I don't think that warrants a bunch of Senators stomping around going RARGH BLARGH FUCK YOU PLEBES and ignoring basic board rules.
I concur with this. Senators or not, this place is not for spam.
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Re: [Discussion]: [Discussion] VI for Ryan Thunder?

Post by Shroom Man 777 » 2009-05-26 10:22am

Awww, guys, don't VI Ryan! I like him and if he gets VI'ed, then his game will totally be fucked up in SDNW. :P

But yeah, he was a total prick in that Steel Dumping thread.
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Re: [Discussion]: [Discussion] VI for Ryan Thunder?

Post by Phantasee » 2009-05-26 11:34am

Knife wrote:
Phantasee wrote:Seriously? You guys are spamming a HoC thread as if it were in Testing. And here I thought Senators were supposed to show us how to do it right.
Thanks, and thank you for showing us how to do Coyote's job for him.
Are you accusing me of back seat modding? I started a thread, it got derailed a bit, and I'm not allowed to point it out? Fuck off.
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Re: [Discussion]: [Discussion] VI for Ryan Thunder?

Post by Big Phil » 2009-05-26 11:40am

Phantasee wrote:
Knife wrote:
Phantasee wrote:Seriously? You guys are spamming a HoC thread as if it were in Testing. And here I thought Senators were supposed to show us how to do it right.
Thanks, and thank you for showing us how to do Coyote's job for him.
Are you accusing me of back seat modding? I started a thread, it got derailed a bit, and I'm not allowed to point it out? Fuck off.
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Re: [Discussion]: [Discussion] VI for Ryan Thunder?

Post by Knife » 2009-05-26 12:42pm

Phantasee wrote: Are you accusing me of back seat modding? I started a thread, it got derailed a bit, and I'm not allowed to point it out? Fuck off.
Actually, yes I am accusing you of back seat modding. Sure, a light and even a bit spammy side track got taken by a few, me included, but it sure the fuck isn't your job nor mine to start yelling at people over it. You sure the fuck didn't 'point it out' rather your snippy vendetta against the Senate filled bitch was more than just that and if you want to smack someone around it does imply you think you have power to do so. You don't.
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Re: [Discussion]: [Discussion] VI for Ryan Thunder?

Post by Phantasee » 2009-05-26 01:14pm

Where the fuck was I yelling at anyone about it? All I did was ask that you guys stop spamming a thread I started, and I tried to remind you that you don't get to enjoy the perks of your status without the responsibilities. One of which is to set a good example for regular posters.

This is the same sort of social control people have over you in daily life: if you're fucking around when you need to be professional, people can remind you that you need to act professionally, and sometimes a little shaming is how they do it. A moderator is more like a formal authority figure, he can tell you to stop doing what you're doing, and he can do something to you if you don't listen.

Or are you just pissed because I was right, and now you're embarrassed?
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Re: [Discussion]: [Discussion] VI for Ryan Thunder?

Post by fgalkin » 2009-05-26 01:33pm

Edi wrote:
RedImperator wrote:
fgalkin wrote: Nah, we just figured that HoC=Testing by another name.

Have a very nice day.
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Since when? I have my complaints about the HoC, but I don't think that warrants a bunch of Senators stomping around going RARGH BLARGH FUCK YOU PLEBES and ignoring basic board rules.
I concur with this. Senators or not, this place is not for spam.
Eh, I am annoyed with the whole RAR GIVE US MORE POWAH! bit, so I thought it best to take the cork out before they burst.

I didn't spam the thread, though, if it helps any.

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Re: [Discussion]: [Discussion] VI for Ryan Thunder?

Post by Coyote » 2009-05-26 01:48pm

While HoC threads are non-binding, and conduct is relaxed, some respectful decorum is expected, at least by myself. The HoC allows the non-Senators a chance to air their opinions, and that allows for gripes and snipes too, if that is how people feel about it.

Go back to discussing the merits of Ryan Thunder's VI title. If people want to discuss the merits and/or pitfalls of backseat modding, start another thread. If this one degenerates too much more, and any faster, you'll soon have no choice but to start another thread. :twisted:

And all should glory in this moment of irony; at the descent into foolish chaos while discussing if another guy should be called an 'idiot'. :lol:
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Re: [Discussion]: [Discussion] VI for Ryan Thunder?

Post by Phantasee » 2009-05-26 01:54pm

Well, there's not much point to this thread anymore, since the Senate poll already has enough votes to be closed, and this poll has very similar results.
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Re: [Discussion]: [Discussion] VI for Ryan Thunder?

Post by RedImperator » 2009-05-26 02:33pm

fgalkin wrote:
Edi wrote:
RedImperator wrote:Since when? I have my complaints about the HoC, but I don't think that warrants a bunch of Senators stomping around going RARGH BLARGH FUCK YOU PLEBES and ignoring basic board rules.
I concur with this. Senators or not, this place is not for spam.
Eh, I am annoyed with the whole RAR GIVE US MORE POWAH!
Why? It's one thing to think the idea fails on its merits, but is it really a huge affront to your sensibilities that the regular members would like a small say in how things are done on the board? You and Thanas are acting like the HoC is demanding root access to the server or something, instead of suggesting that maybe they get, what? A 5% say in Senate votes?

And at any rate, it's not an excuse for ignoring the board rules or declaring the HoC is "Testing by another name". I don't remember that vote.
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Re: [Discussion]: [Discussion] VI for Ryan Thunder?

Post by Thanas » 2009-05-26 02:44pm

RedImperator wrote:You and Thanas are acting like the HoC is demanding root access to the server or something
How nice of you to phrase my point that way.

Stay classy.
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Re: [Discussion]: [Discussion] VI for Ryan Thunder?

Post by RedImperator » 2009-05-26 03:37pm

Thanas wrote:
RedImperator wrote:You and Thanas are acting like the HoC is demanding root access to the server or something
How nice of you to phrase my point that way.

Stay classy.
I described your attitude, not your point. I believe I summed up your point earlier with "RARGH BLARGH FUCK YOU PLEBES".
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Re: [Discussion]: [Discussion] VI for Ryan Thunder?

Post by Thanas » 2009-05-26 03:58pm

RedImperator wrote:I described your attitude, not your point. I believe I summed up your point earlier with "RARGH BLARGH FUCK YOU PLEBES".
Wasn't you, until you have a sockpuppet. And I don't think that is a fair assesment of my position. Hey, I can summarize your position as well "RARGH BLARGH MOAR POWR TO TESTING".

Oh, and please tell me why the HoC should now be something it never was supposed to be in the first place? It was created to have ideas brought up (yeah, what a great success that has been so far), not to take over from the senate.
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Re: [Discussion]: [Discussion] VI for Ryan Thunder?

Post by Coyote » 2009-05-26 05:19pm

Sounds like a new subject to me!




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