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Re: Resolution: Removing an Eyesore of a Smilie

Posted: 2009-01-21 12:36am
by Havok
Where are all these "n00bs" using the shit out of the cannon smiley anyway?

Re: Resolution: Removing an Eyesore of a Smilie

Posted: 2009-01-21 04:13am
by Duckie
General Zod wrote:
MRDOD wrote:man we better not do anything to change this board. we can adblock things we don't want, and use greasemonkey scrips to enable strikethrough for all people with the same script, or the like.

also, fact: noob posturing always uses kill in more than one, so you never see a lone gunman.
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Who said anything about scripts? (A lame suggestion anyway). There's already a board feature in the user control panel to disable smileys as images entirely.
You missed the point- I was pointing out 'there is a way to block smileys in part or in whole yourself' isn't a valid reason not to remove a smiley that is completely useless and indeed only serves as a mark of idiocy, is ugly, and takes up a huge amount of room anyhow. "People can fix it on their own" is just a bad excuse for inertia.
havokeff wrote:Where are all these "n00bs" using the shit out of the cannon smiley anyway?
Last one I saw was the 100 Death Stars vs 10^100 Enterprises thread, if I remember correctly. Basically anywhere an avatarless member who thinks they're cool posts if they signed up in the past 20 days and are an idiot. It might be less common than I figure but each time it sticks out and bugs me.

And it seems to bug or at least be noticed by a lot of other people. I've seen a few 'meh' and several 'yes' in this thread- nobody is leaping forward to say "SHIT WE NEED TO KEEP THAT SMILIE" like for Wanker or for the finger giving smilie

Re: Resolution: Removing an Eyesore of a Smilie

Posted: 2009-01-21 04:19am
by rhoenix
Call this a curmudgeon's opinon, but I say out with it.

It takes up far too much space as a smilie in terms of post length, and serves to show no real emoticon other than "I SHOOT BIG GUN" which...shouldn't be a smilie, in my somewhat humble opinion.

Re: Resolution: Removing an Eyesore of a Smilie

Posted: 2009-01-21 07:51am
by Crazedwraith
General Zod wrote:[
There's an even simpler idea that makes this thread wholly unneeded. If you don't like smileys you can turn off the ability to display them as images in your profile. So all you'll see is smiley text.
Because people are of course complaining about smilies as a whole as opposed to a specific one they dislike right?

I'm assuming people don't want to lose all the smilies just so they don't see the cannon one.

Re: Resolution: Removing an Eyesore of a Smilie

Posted: 2009-01-21 11:32am
by General Zod
Crazedwraith wrote: Because people are of course complaining about smilies as a whole as opposed to a specific one they dislike right?

I'm assuming people don't want to lose all the smilies just so they don't see the cannon one.
How often does the cannon one get any use anyway? I can't recall any recent threads worth reading that actually have it in them.

Re: Resolution: Removing an Eyesore of a Smilie

Posted: 2009-01-21 01:05pm
by TheMuffinKing
I say that this is a non-issue. Oooh a cannon smiley, what an annoyance! Jeeze, don't you guys have something more important to complain about? I mean seriously, complaining about an infrequently used smiley is not only a big waste of time, it makes you look like a stupid douche.

:wanker: Smiley complaints :wanker:

Re: Resolution: Removing an Eyesore of a Smilie

Posted: 2009-01-21 01:45pm
by GrandMasterTerwynn
General Zod wrote:
Crazedwraith wrote: Because people are of course complaining about smilies as a whole as opposed to a specific one they dislike right?

I'm assuming people don't want to lose all the smilies just so they don't see the cannon one.
How often does the cannon one get any use anyway? I can't recall any recent threads worth reading that actually have it in them.
That's the whole point. There are almost no threads worth the trouble of reading that use that particular smiley. Ergo, the board should get rid of it.

Re: Resolution: Removing an Eyesore of a Smilie

Posted: 2009-01-21 03:20pm
by TithonusSyndrome
For those who think their argument about disabling smilies or flash is an incisive debate-closer: is it not possible for someone to actually enjoy the sparse but artful placement of a few smilies and NOT want to ever see the cannon one? This seems a slight black-and-white fallacy.

For that matter, I think the sheer spammy ugliness of it makes a case for removal on principle alone, provided Mike and co. don't have better things to do.

Re: Resolution: Removing an Eyesore of a Smilie

Posted: 2009-01-21 03:26pm
by General Zod
GrandMasterTerwynn wrote: That's the whole point. There are almost no threads worth the trouble of reading that use that particular smiley. Ergo, the board should get rid of it.
Why don't we get rid of the devil/angel smiley while we're at it then? Or how about the lightbulb smiley? I can't remember any threads worth reading with those either, and clearly they almost never get used.

Re: Resolution: Removing an Eyesore of a Smilie

Posted: 2009-01-21 03:30pm
by Havok
Are people really crying when they see the cannon smiley? I mean, are posts destroyed? Whole threads utterly falling apart? Lets hope no trolls figure out the dreaded cannon smiley kryptonite of Star Destroyer.Net. :roll:

Re: Resolution: Removing an Eyesore of a Smilie

Posted: 2009-01-21 03:46pm
by Mr. Coffee
Just when I think the HoC can't possibly be more useless, someone rents a backhoe and starts digging it even deeper into the big pit of fail. Seriously, now we're down to bitching about a smiley. No, can't talk about anything useful, we're gonna whine about this thing :kill:

Hey, can we get a smiley of a monkey fucking a football and call it the :HoC:?

Re: Resolution: Removing an Eyesore of a Smilie

Posted: 2009-01-21 05:24pm
by Flagg
I again move that we vote on this issue to settle the matter.

Re: Resolution: Removing an Eyesore of a Smilie

Posted: 2009-01-21 05:32pm
by Coyote
I vote "this is silly!" :lol:

Re: Resolution: Removing an Eyesore of a Smilie

Posted: 2009-01-21 05:37pm
by Flagg
Coyote wrote:I vote "this is silly!" :lol:

I don't disagree, but instead of the current circle jerk a vote would at least get the issue shut the fuck down.

Re: Resolution: Removing an Eyesore of a Smilie

Posted: 2009-01-21 05:56pm
by Havok
Well make a vote thread. This is the House of COMMONS. You don't have to be Stark to start a vote thread here. :kill:

Re: Resolution: Removing an Eyesore of a Smilie

Posted: 2009-01-21 05:59pm
by Crazedwraith
The amount of people getting butthurt over this thread is hilarious. Why don't you guys take your own advice? If this thread bothers you so much. Don't click on it. Its that simple.

Re: Resolution: Removing an Eyesore of a Smilie

Posted: 2009-01-21 06:23pm
by Mr. Coffee
Crazedwraith wrote:The amount of people getting butthurt over this thread is hilarious. Why don't you guys take your own advice? If this thread bothers you so much. Don't click on it. Its that simple.
Because saying this topic is a non-issue and a waste of time equals "butthurt", *I'm a smarmy asshole*. :wanker:

Re: Resolution: Removing an Eyesore of a Smilie

Posted: 2009-01-21 06:50pm
by Crazedwraith
Mr. Coffee wrote: Because saying this topic is a non-issue and a waste of time equals "butthurt", *I'm a smarmy asshole*. :wanker:
If you ignore it, then your time is not wasted. No-one's forcing you to use your oh-so-precious time to look over this thread.

Re: Resolution: Removing an Eyesore of a Smilie

Posted: 2009-01-21 07:05pm
by TheMuffinKing
Crazedwraith wrote:
Mr. Coffee wrote: Because saying this topic is a non-issue and a waste of time equals "butthurt", *I'm a smarmy asshole*. :wanker:
If you ignore it, then your time is not wasted. No-one's forcing you to use your oh-so-precious time to look over this thread.
No one was forced to make an inane thread complaining about smileys either. :wanker: :kill: :wanker:

Re: Resolution: Removing an Eyesore of a Smilie

Posted: 2009-01-21 07:13pm
by Havok
Crazedwraith wrote:The amount of people getting butthurt over this thread is hilarious. Why don't you guys take your own advice? If this thread bothers you so much. Don't click on it. Its that simple.
The threads don't bother me, it is the asinine ideas contained in the threads. And really, if people on this board just ignored stupidity, it would be a pretty boring place.

Re: Resolution: Removing an Eyesore of a Smilie

Posted: 2009-01-21 07:26pm
by rhoenix
General Zod wrote:Why don't we get rid of the devil/angel smiley while we're at it then? Or how about the lightbulb smiley? I can't remember any threads worth reading with those either, and clearly they almost never get used.
I know you were being facetious in this post, but I say fine. The smilie graphics themselves take up a negligable amount of space on the server, I realize and accept that. However, given that the above specific smilies (cannon, angel/devil, lightbulb) apparently serve no useful purpose, I'd call them vestigial. Not a high priority to get rid of, but not exactly deserving of a tearful "save the smilies" campaign either.

Re: Resolution: Removing an Eyesore of a Smilie

Posted: 2009-01-21 07:32pm
by General Zod
Crazedwraith wrote:
Mr. Coffee wrote: Because saying this topic is a non-issue and a waste of time equals "butthurt", *I'm a smarmy asshole*. :wanker:
If you ignore it, then your time is not wasted. No-one's forcing you to use your oh-so-precious time to look over this thread.
For someone accusing us of being butthurt you seem to be doing a whole lot whining. Perhaps it's because you don't actually have a reason for getting rid of it besides "I find it offensive"? I'm sure that will win a lot of support right there.

Re: Resolution: Removing an Eyesore of a Smilie

Posted: 2009-01-21 08:36pm
by Mr. Coffee
Image

:HoC:

Props to Darth Lucifer for the .gif

Re: Resolution: Removing an Eyesore of a Smilie

Posted: 2009-01-22 03:08am
by Bounty
So this is the level of discourse people expect these days? Someone brings up an issue and the best you can do is just blather on and on for pages about how totally cool you are for not caring about it? The amount of futile histrionics here is just astounding.

MRDOD didn't come here demanding that all the smileys be redesigned to her wishes; she just pointed out that maybe there might be support for pruning a few smileys, and I'm sure of that support wasn't there it'd be cool too. But instead of using this as a jumping-off point for, oh I don't know, discussing the smileys that nearly every board member uses and trying to improve them, we've got the board drama whores blowing a fuse and beating the old "any discussion is bad discussion" horse. Because why should you calmly state you would like to keep a smiley when you can bring out the tough guy act, right?

It's worse than goddamn kindergarten.

Re: Resolution: Removing an Eyesore of a Smilie

Posted: 2009-01-22 04:50am
by Duckie
Bounty wrote:So this is the level of discourse people expect these days? Someone brings up an issue and the best you can do is just blather on and on for pages about how totally cool you are for not caring about it? The amount of futile histrionics here is just astounding.

MRDOD didn't come here demanding that all the smileys be redesigned to her wishes; she just pointed out that maybe there might be support for pruning a few smileys, and I'm sure of that support wasn't there it'd be cool too. But instead of using this as a jumping-off point for, oh I don't know, discussing the smileys that nearly every board member uses and trying to improve them, we've got the board drama whores blowing a fuse and beating the old "any discussion is bad discussion" horse. Because why should you calmly state you would like to keep a smiley when you can bring out the tough guy act, right?

It's worse than goddamn kindergarten.
In the defense of the users of the HOC, I should have thought a little bit harder and realised that the people in the HoC are the same people as the people using the rest of this board and thus not tried to carry on a discussion about anything, since Board = Drama and FUCK TEH AUTHORITY come with every single thread posted in by certain members.