[Member] Perpetual Nomination Thread

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Re: [Member] Perpetual Nomination Thread

Post by Nieztchean Uber-Amoeba » 2009-01-02 05:07pm

Chancellor-designate Wilkens, I think that the Testingtards are making a mockery of the democratic process.

That said, I nominate Ray245.

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Re: [Member] Perpetual Nomination Thread

Post by Coyote » 2009-01-02 05:07pm

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Coyote wrote:Rationales? Links to evidence of greatness in the field?
Does Colefax have any? No? But his nomination has been accepted. Why not Shroomy?
Because I'm trying to stave off a dam-burst of frivolous nominations for the sake of silliness, and because one got through doesn't mean they all should?

It's Colefax in particular I'm thinking of. He's a good guy and he's come a long way, showing an ability to grow and learn, so I'm not ruling him out in the future, but I think more time is needed.
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Re: [Member] Perpetual Nomination Thread

Post by Formless » 2009-01-02 05:15pm

Nieztchean Uber-Amoeba wrote:That said, I nominate Ray245.
:lol:

Okay, the guy is obviously enthusiastic enough, but are you seriously suggesting that we want someone who has proposed more stupid ideas than everyone else in here combined to have a podium in the senate itself? He's a nice enough guy, and he does have a certain childlike innocence about him, but he hardly uses the kind of intelligence and self control that is expected of a senator.
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Re: [Member] Perpetual Nomination Thread

Post by Enigma » 2009-01-02 05:18pm

Coyote wrote:<snip>Because I'm trying to stave off a dam-burst of frivolous nominations for the sake of silliness, and because one got through doesn't mean they all should?

It's Colefax in particular I'm thinking of. He's a good guy and he's come a long way, showing an ability to grow and learn, so I'm not ruling him out in the future, but I think more time is needed.
Personally I think the Senate should set a membership limit of how many can be admitted. I think what we have now is good enough. The only time there should be a Senate nomination is if one or more Senators quit the Senate or are kicked out. Constantly voting in more will eventually split the board into good posters and the dregs.

That said there should also be a stricter guidelines for Senatorial conduct. Picking fights with one another would result in some form of punishment with repeat offenders kicked out. Ditto for those who do not vote in the threads requiring them to.

Basically what I am saying is that nomination candidates with no end in sight is bad. :) Limit Senate size and replace members when necessary.
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Re: [Member] Perpetual Nomination Thread

Post by Enigma » 2009-01-02 05:19pm

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Nieztchean Uber-Amoeba wrote:That said, I nominate Ray245.
:lol:

Okay, the guy is obviously enthusiastic enough, but are you seriously suggesting that we want someone who has proposed more stupid ideas than everyone else in here combined to have a podium in the senate itself? He's a nice enough guy, and he does have a certain childlike innocence about him, but he hardly uses the kind of intelligence and self control that is expected of a senator.
You do know that it is not to be taken serious? :)
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Re: [Member] Perpetual Nomination Thread

Post by Nieztchean Uber-Amoeba » 2009-01-02 05:20pm

Formless wrote:
Nieztchean Uber-Amoeba wrote:That said, I nominate Ray245.
:lol:

Okay, the guy is obviously enthusiastic enough, but are you seriously suggesting that we want someone who has proposed more stupid ideas than everyone else in here combined to have a podium in the senate itself? He's a nice enough guy, and he does have a certain childlike innocence about him, but he hardly uses the kind of intelligence and self control that is expected of a senator.
His contributions to the board have been overwhelming. Further, he has better name-recognition than almost everyone, and some of the highest board response to his posts specifically of anyone here!

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Re: [Member] Perpetual Nomination Thread

Post by CmdrWilkens » 2009-01-02 05:49pm

Shroom Man 777 wrote:Yeah, but you'll never catch me in a SRS BSNSS debate with facts and equations and proofs thrown around. It'll be a cold day in hell when I can stand toe to toe in a Coliseum-style debate against any of those... brained people. But if it happens, that will mean I am smarterers and have things like... knowledge!

Haha, Shroomy in the Senate. Ray, you have funny ideas. :P

Besides, nomination's over. STRAK is now a Super Special SDN Senator of Snarkcastic Speakingness.

(I'd make a better Senator than Socks though ;))

(Like, I wouldn't've approved the House of Commons and stuff :P)

Starting the 2nd of each month the HoC is free to nominate a whole new slate. That said you have been nominated and seconded, are you refusing the nomination?


General note: I tried to make this clear so I'll shout it to both sides: If you HONESTLY want someone added to the Seante, if you think they would be a valuable asset in the Senate then provide some proof.

Fellow Senators: take a couple seconds and consider the nominations presented. Bean does have the one point back in the Senate itself that there are an awful lot of "yeah sure" votes and membership in the Senate deserves at least a few minutes of your time to consider whether the person would be a contributing member.
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Re: [Member] Perpetual Nomination Thread

Post by CmdrWilkens » 2009-01-02 05:51pm

Enigma wrote:That said there should also be a stricter guidelines for Senatorial conduct. Picking fights with one another would result in some form of punishment with repeat offenders kicked out. Ditto for those who do not vote in the threads requiring them to.
I already track those who don't vote and currently there are 3 who have been declared "Inactive" due to lack of voting. As to misbehavior elsewhere the updated Seante Rules provide for a vote to remove a member who has basically fucked up.
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Re: [Member] Perpetual Nomination Thread

Post by Formless » 2009-01-02 05:53pm

Nieztchean Uber-Amoeba wrote:His contributions to the board have been overwhelming. Further, he has better name-recognition than almost everyone, and some of the highest board response to his posts specifically of anyone here!
Ah, but the question is, are those responses positive... or negative? See, by the same argument, we should recognize Darkstar for his high name recognition! Sure, he has epically stupid things to say, but he sure is famous!

I hope this suggestion really was comedic, as Enigma suggested.
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Re: [Member] Perpetual Nomination Thread

Post by Nieztchean Uber-Amoeba » 2009-01-02 05:57pm

Formless wrote: Ah, but the question is, are those responses positive... or negative? See, by the same argument, we should recognize Darkstar for his high name recognition!
Silly Formless, banned people can't become senators!

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Re: [Member] Perpetual Nomination Thread

Post by Enigma » 2009-01-02 05:59pm

CmdrWilkens wrote:
Enigma wrote:That said there should also be a stricter guidelines for Senatorial conduct. Picking fights with one another would result in some form of punishment with repeat offenders kicked out. Ditto for those who do not vote in the threads requiring them to.
I already track those who don't vote and currently there are 3 who have been declared "Inactive" due to lack of voting. As to misbehavior elsewhere the updated Seante Rules provide for a vote to remove a member who has basically fucked up.
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Re: [Member] Perpetual Nomination Thread

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Re: [Member] Perpetual Nomination Thread

Post by Formless » 2009-01-02 06:29pm

Nieztchean Uber-Amoeba wrote:Silly Formless, banned people can't become senators!
Ah, but the point was that stupid people shouldn't either! And Darkstar counts as BOTH!
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Re: [Member] Perpetual Nomination Thread

Post by Nieztchean Uber-Amoeba » 2009-01-02 06:34pm

Formless wrote:
Nieztchean Uber-Amoeba wrote:Silly Formless, banned people can't become senators!
Ah, but the point was that stupid people shouldn't either! And Darkstar counts as BOTH!
Wouldn't that leave out [Unpopular Senator here]? :P

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Re: [Member] Perpetual Nomination Thread

Post by Shroom Man 777 » 2009-01-02 06:35pm

CmdrWilkens wrote:Starting the 2nd of each month the HoC is free to nominate a whole new slate. That said you have been nominated and seconded, are you refusing the nomination?
Oh, what the hell. I ACCEPT my nomination. :D

Just watching the Senators in the Senate forum vote on the whole thing would be awesome. And, well, I can't be THAT horrible a Senator if I should ever make the grade. :)


But yeah, maybe the Senate could be like... a real Senate. Real Senates don't have limitless membership slots, and real Senates have Senatorial term-limits, don't they? If we have too many Senators, some could be put in the reserves bench while a certain specific pre-set number of Senators are always active. When their time expires or when real-life bites them in the ass, they get a break, sit on the bench and are replaced by another batch. And then they're rotated again. Like, each Senator gets four months duty before taking a four month break and then returning for another four months duty. Or something.

Kind of like basketball. *blows whistle* *substitute players*

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Re: [Member] Perpetual Nomination Thread

Post by Formless » 2009-01-02 06:46pm

Nieztchean Uber-Amoeba wrote:
Formless wrote:
Nieztchean Uber-Amoeba wrote:Silly Formless, banned people can't become senators!
Ah, but the point was that stupid people shouldn't either! And Darkstar counts as BOTH!
Wouldn't that leave out [Unpopular Senator here]? :P
No, I think they are all pretty intelligent, its just that some of them are asshats. :P
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Re: [Member] Perpetual Nomination Thread

Post by Havok » 2009-01-02 07:17pm

You guys are fucking ridiculous. :roll:
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Re: [Member] Perpetual Nomination Thread

Post by Rye » 2009-01-02 07:31pm

havokeff wrote:You guys are fucking ridiculous. :roll:
You annoyed that you've not been nominated? I know I am! :P
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Re: [Member] Perpetual Nomination Thread

Post by Bluewolf » 2009-01-02 07:40pm

I would like to nominate Master of Ossus. Why? He is a really coherent and solid poster and to be honest one of our best when it comes to posts on economics which is very fitting in these times. Plus he is not a forum "old boy" or something like that.

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Re: [Member] Perpetual Nomination Thread

Post by Havok » 2009-01-02 07:56pm

Zuul wrote:
havokeff wrote:You guys are fucking ridiculous. :roll:
You annoyed that you've not been nominated? I know I am! :P
Hell no. Under the new system, I can nominate myself, which is always fucking lame, and I'm 99% sure there are people that would second me, either for the "LULZ" or because they like what I have to say, strange as that may be.

That is true of you, or anyone else for that matter. Seriously, Coffee nominated Tubbs and he got seconded. :lol: Don't get me wrong, I like Tubbs and have always defended him and helped him out as best I could, but his posts are no where near what they need to be, to be a serious consideration.

P.S. I know you are just kidding. :D
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Re: [Member] Perpetual Nomination Thread

Post by aerius » 2009-01-02 07:57pm

Bluewolf wrote:I would like to nominate Master of Ossus. Why? He is a really coherent and solid poster and to be honest one of our best when it comes to posts on economics which is very fitting in these times. Plus he is not a forum "old boy" or something like that.
Uh, he's a Governor so he's already in the Senate by default.


Also, Snuggles (J) is seconded. I'd like to state for the record that I wasn't bribed or blackmailed into this action.
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Re: [Member] Perpetual Nomination Thread

Post by Havok » 2009-01-02 07:57pm

Bluewolf wrote:I would like to nominate Master of Ossus. Why? He is a really coherent and solid poster and to be honest one of our best when it comes to posts on economics which is very fitting in these times. Plus he is not a forum "old boy" or something like that.
He is a Mod already. Why would he want to be a Senator. He ACTUALLY has some SAY in how things go around here. :D
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Re: [Member] Perpetual Nomination Thread

Post by Bluewolf » 2009-01-02 07:58pm

Well then I will go with Colfax and if I can not do that, Shroomy.

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Re: [Member] Perpetual Nomination Thread

Post by Havok » 2009-01-02 08:00pm

Bluewolf wrote:Well then I will go with Colfax and if I can not do that, Shroomy.
So YOU are just trolling for LULZ? :lol: Groovy. See Rye. :D
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Re: [Member] Perpetual Nomination Thread

Post by Bluewolf » 2009-01-02 08:03pm

Oh no no no. I honestly did not know MoO was a governer with the loss of titles and all. I just think Colfax may grow some balls if he is a senator and he can always be removed if no impprovment is there.

Shroomy is just interesting and a breath of fresh air compared to some. He makes very reasoned and good posts.

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