Once Healthy Places In Trouble - A Crisis Of Negative Ions

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Once Healthy Places In Trouble - A Crisis Of Negative Ions

Post by Doomriser » 2002-07-29 09:32pm

From KD Weber
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In recent past years, we were all able to go to a natural area of high negative ionization such as forests, mountains, beaches, and waterfalls. These were considered 'healthy' places. All of that has changed.

The government and military aerosol (chemtrail) activity in the atmosphere, over our cities and world has damaged and negated the ability of natural resources to produce healthy negative ions as before. The total effect is a great increase in positive ions on and around your body and in your total living environment.

All things, in the past, that had impact on natural environmental production of negative ions, for the well being of all kinds of life forms, is not of great consequence in today's military chemtrail world. The military activity in the atmosphere ultimately has a lethal, destructive effect on the production of negative ions - the same negative ions humans and other life forms depend on for their very survival.

Weather and atmosphere are crucial in the production of negative ions. The Navy RFMP/VTRPE chemtrail program uses a barium salt mixture aerosol in the atmosphere we breathe. The Navy program started over four years ago and hundreds of tons of barium salt has been sprayed into our air. You cannot make negative ions in a barium salt atmosphere that is radiated and contains an electrolyte. There are more factors making positive ions than there are factors making negative ions.

We are coming into a time when all living life forms and our farm soil will require negative ions to survive. Negative ions in the air decay within a few seconds of being created.

Please visit http://ion_effects.tripod.com to learn more about the effects of negative and positive ions. It is important that you do so. >

[BTW I don't believe this. If you actually think that I do, I find your lack of faith disturbing.]

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Post by TrailerParkJawa » 2002-07-29 09:37pm

I rate these loonies on par with the folks that believe if they are freezed shortly after death they can be brought back to life in the future.

Technical issues aside, who a hundred years from now would give a rats ass about you and your ice corpse?

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Post by David » 2002-07-29 10:23pm

I got your negative ions right here biatch.

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Post by Mr Bean » 2002-07-29 10:54pm

Thanks to my War Fearing neighbors I have enough *Canned Air to survive along with them in a high grade(IE well thought out) bomb shelter for nearly sixteen months

Of course I could only need a week after if this theory is correct everyone else will have chocked to death leaving lots of ions for me :D

Please note I have yet to acutal read the web-site so I'll do that

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Post by Mr. B » 2002-07-29 11:55pm

YOU GOTTA HELP ME MAN THE GOVERNMENT SPRAYED NEGATIVE IONS ON ME! NOW I CANT THINK STRAIGHT AND HAVE TO TYPE IN ALL BOLD! I'M TWEAKIN OUT HERE MAN, SOMEBODY HELP ME!

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Post by Datana » 2002-07-30 12:35am

There was a CNN article a bit back about how "negative ion generators" are all the rage in Japan right now. It was especially funny hearing the supposed effects of negative ions, as nearly all (tingly feeling, general feeling of healthfulness) could be easily explained by psychosomatic effects. I guess that despite turning out the world's great majority of cool electronics, the Japanese are just as vulnerable as us Westerners to pseudoscience and being convinced to buy useless junk (laundry balls, anyone?). Unfortunately, I can't seem to find said article anywhere in the CNN archives despite it being only a few months old.

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Post by TrailerParkJawa » 2002-07-30 01:26am

There was a CNN article a bit back about how "negative ion generators" are all the rage in Japan right now. It was especially funny hearing the supposed effects of negative ions, as nearly all (tingly feeling, general feeling of healthfulness) could be easily explained by psychosomatic effects. I guess that despite turning out the world's great majority of cool electronics, the Japanese are just as vulnerable as us Westerners to pseudoscience and being convinced to buy useless junk (laundry balls, anyone?). Unfortunately, I can't seem to find said article anywhere in the CNN archives despite it being only a few months old.
I saw a report on the news about this fad in Japan, might have been CNN, I dont remember. Stores like Sharper Image are chuck full of this stuff. I dont know why people so easily fall for things like this, while reserving so much disbelief for basics like vaccinations.

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Post by Wicked Pilot » 2002-07-30 06:03pm

I wonder if the author of this article even knows what a negative ion is.
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Post by oberon » 2002-07-30 07:00pm

Funny how they're concerened with the "hundreds of tons" of barium aerosol whatzit released over a time frame of years, yet remain silent about the hundreds of tons of chlorine that load the atmosphere with every shuttle or rocket launch.
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Post by Shadowhawk » 2002-07-31 01:05am

The whole 'chemtrails' thing is outright laughable.
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Post by SPOOFE » 2002-07-31 05:02pm

Please visit http://ion_effects.tripod.com to learn more about the effects of negative and positive ions.
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Post by Darth Wong » 2002-07-31 07:08pm

I checked out that Tripod article. There is no one reference for any of its claims. As Carl Sagan once said, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Names of references are a bare minimum.

It is startlingly light on figures. Even when it does contain figures, it does not say where they came from, or how they were obtained. It makes repeated reference to anonymous research, with phrases like "it has been estimated that" or "studies have shown" ... these are the kind of phrases one finds in marketing literature, not scientific literature.

At one point, it claims that the human body's bio-electric field interacts with the Earth's magnetic field to make us feel more energetic. Nowhere does it cite figures on magnetic field strength or double-blind experiments to confirm this speculation. In fact, while it makes repeated vague references to "experiments", it makes no effort to describe the methodology of those experiments; were they double-blind experiments, conducted under rigorously controlled conditions? Or were they experiments conducted in the author's own backyard, using personal and subjective evaluation techniques?

And finally, the clearest sign of its moronic nature is that it states its theory as a fact, rather than stating how its theory fits the facts. This is not a small distinction.

Sad, quite sad. The funny thing is that you can and will find creationists who laugh this stuff off as junk pseudoscience, yet cannot see the resemblance to their own bullshit. And you will probably find vice versa as well: people who eat this stuff up, but laugh at creationists. People habe to learn that it's the underlying mentality that's bad, not any one particular group of people who happen to employ it.
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Post by Admiral Valdemar » 2002-07-31 07:20pm

Watch out because I hear the menace of the covalent boogie bonds are about to be released on us innocent folk.

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