But what if you are wrong?

Tron · Post by **Tron** » 2002-11-09 01:09am

I have seen quite a few of you "open minded" scientific types proclaim that there is no God.

My question to all of you is this: "What if you are wrong? What will you say to Him on Judgement Day?"

Just curious.

Post by **haas mark** » 2002-11-09 01:12am

Tron wrote:I have seen quite a few of you "open minded" scientific types proclaim that there is no God.

My question to all of you is this: "What if you are wrong? What will you say to Him on Judgement Day?"

Just curious.

Well, I am no scientist, but I am no Christian. And there are plenty of agnostics here, as well.

I personally would say what I have to say: the truth. There's nothing else *for* me to say.

I foresee Wong and a few others saying that they *still* doesn't believe in God, but I could be wrong.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2002-11-09 01:12am

If god does exist, what makes you think it is your god? The way I see it, an omiscient being will judge me based on my actions, not my beliefs.(hello tron, This is the user formerly known as moonblade on SB.com)

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2002-11-09 01:14am

Tron wrote:I have seen quite a few of you "open minded" scientific types proclaim that there is no God.

And what is wrong with that? Are you going to give us this moronic assumption that it's a 50/50 probability?

My question to all of you is this: "What if you are wrong? What will you say to Him on Judgement Day?"

I will say "You mass-murdering bastard. I'd rather take my chances with Satan than with a genocidal maniac like you."

Enlightenment · Post by **Enlightenment** » 2002-11-09 01:33am

Tron wrote:My question to all of you is this: "What if you are wrong? What will you say to Him on Judgement Day?"

My question to you is this: what if you are wrong and the real true god is Satan, Allah or Cthulhu?

If someone is going to believe 'just in case' a god might exist, why should he/she choose to believe in the Christian god rather than one of the multitude of others out there? Surely, 'just in case' requires belief in all gods, just in case the real one is some lesser known Hindu deity or some such.

data_link · Post by **data_link** » 2002-11-09 01:38am

I will look him in the eye and say "You, good sir, are a blithering idiot. I will not serve you. Now, if you will just direct me to Satan, I will be on my way."

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2002-11-09 01:44am

I figure that a deity is within the realm of possibility. And if there was some sort of afterlife that requires judgement aside from our actions it would have come down and told us. This does not mean that it is necessarily a god from some existing religion.

Judge on the actions is my bet.

Oh and poke.

Scared yet?

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2002-11-09 01:44am

I won`t stand before God unless I drown or am sacrificed on His altar. Everyone knows that Tlaloc is lord. See pixelated avatar.

Post by **haas mark** » 2002-11-09 01:45am

I have a question: Just because there is a God in the Christian sense, does that inherently mean that there is Satan, or even Hell, for that matter?

data_link · Post by **data_link** » 2002-11-09 01:53am

verilon wrote:I have a question: Just because there is a God in the Christian sense, does that inherently mean that there is Satan, or even Hell, for that matter?

In the Christian sense, no, it does not nessecarily mean that. The Catholic pope himself (I forget his his name) has declared that there is no hell, just "being apart from God." Of course, if by Christian you mean fundie, then yes, definately.

SAMAS · Post by **SAMAS** » 2002-11-09 02:10am

I will say nothing, and walk away.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2002-11-09 02:12am

SAMAS wrote:I will say nothing, and walk away.

TALK, fool!

Bob McDob · Post by **Bob McDob** » 2002-11-09 02:23am

Darth Wong wrote:
SAMAS wrote:I will say nothing, and walk away.
TALK, fool!

<BLo> JEMM Unloaded! </BLo>

GrandMasterTerwynn · Post by **GrandMasterTerwynn** » 2002-11-09 02:26am

Tron wrote:I have seen quite a few of you "open minded" scientific types proclaim that there is no God.

My question to all of you is this: "What if you are wrong? What will you say to Him on Judgement Day?"

Just curious.

Well, the burden of proof is on God to conclusively demonstrate that He exists. As He hasn't done anything of the sort, the question is moot. I will go to my grave knowing that nothing awaits me after I die. No dull afterlife and no vengeful imaginary person in the sky.

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2002-11-09 02:34am

I would do the following things in order:

1. Think: "Oh, so God does exist."

2. Try to have small talk with God.

3. After finished with conversation, go back down to Earth and help everyone else fight the Anti-Christ.

Oh and Tron, you being a bus driver, I'm pretty sure I know what other message board you post on. But still, I must do this.

Feel the power of piss-poor resolution newbie-poking pics! RAAARR!!!

Don't worry. I'm going to replace this one with a better one sometime tomorrow hopefully.

OKE:

*Runs like hell from Tron's eyebeams*

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2002-11-09 02:35am

Your newbie-poking pic is a place-holder image from FortuneCity.com?

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2002-11-09 02:38am

GrandMasterTerwynn wrote: Well, the burden of proof is on God to conclusively demonstrate that He exists. As He hasn't done anything of the sort, the question is moot. I will go to my grave knowing that nothing awaits me after I die. No dull afterlife and no vengeful imaginary person in the sky.

Maybe God doesn't want to prove himself to us because he knows all the stupid fundie people in the world will capitalize on that and do really stupid, annoying things to the rest of the world. The Christian global community would probably go wacko on the rest of the world too if God revealed himself.

Just a thought on why God hasn't shown himself yet.

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2002-11-09 02:40am

Darth Wong wrote:Your newbie-poking pic is a place-holder image from FortuneCity.com?

You must be missing this referrer header-thingy some guy was telling me about a few weeks ago.

Here's the actual link: http://members.fortunecity.com/shinova/ ... rapoke.jpg

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2002-11-09 02:42am

Shinova wrote:
GrandMasterTerwynn wrote: Well, the burden of proof is on God to conclusively demonstrate that He exists. As He hasn't done anything of the sort, the question is moot. I will go to my grave knowing that nothing awaits me after I die. No dull afterlife and no vengeful imaginary person in the sky.
Maybe God doesn't want to prove himself to us because he knows all the stupid fundie people in the world will capitalize on that and do really stupid, annoying things to the rest of the world. The Christian global community would probably go wacko on the rest of the world too if God revealed himself.

Just a thought on why God hasn't shown himself yet.

If you had a bunch of idiots doing stuff in your name would you want to show yourself?

Raxmei · Post by **Raxmei** » 2002-11-09 02:45am

Tron wrote: My question to all of you is this: "What if you are wrong? What will you say to Him on Judgement Day?"

Just curious.

You are sitting in my chair.

Post by **haas mark** » 2002-11-09 02:46am

Raxmei wrote:
Tron wrote: My question to all of you is this: "What if you are wrong? What will you say to Him on Judgement Day?"

Just curious.
You are sitting in my chair.

LOL!!

Post by **Coyote** » 2002-11-09 02:47am

verilon wrote:I have a question: Just because there is a God in the Christian sense, does that inherently mean that there is Satan, or even Hell, for that matter?

No. Satan is an excuse for bad human behavior: "The Devil made me do it". Bullshit. Judaism does not posit the existance of a Devil, all the villains of Jewish history are people acting badly-- Haman, Amalek, Pharoah, Hitler. Any rationalization through "the Devil" is an attempt for wrongdoers ot evade responsibility.

And there is no real Hell either, but a sort of place of justice called Sheol. That is the place where each soul must face the things s/he did wrong, comprehend the pain they caused and why they were wrong, and accept responsibility fo rhteir actions. The justice is balanced and proportional; there is none of this boiling in oil for seven eternities for putting your little sister's Barbie in the toilet.

When all is said and done, at the Shabbat service, we pray for all the nationsof the world to know peace and justice; that no one shall know oppression. Not just the club members.

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2002-11-09 02:49am

Now then, which religion has more "seniority"? Judaism or Christianity?

Post by **Coyote** » 2002-11-09 02:54am

Of the two, Judaism outdates Chritianity by anywhere from 2,000 to 3,000 years, and Christianity bases its validity on Hebrew prophesy that a Messiah would come and lead the nations to peace. Christians say "Jesus was that guy, th one we've been waiting for" while Jews say, "mmm, nope, not him, still waiting."

For another interesting view of God and his nature, read Milton's "Paradise Lost". God sets up Adam and Eve to make the moral choice of defying him with the fruit of the tree. The reason? Because their devotion to him was like that of a robot; unthinking and not of conscious choice. He wanted them to be able to make the choice of not going to God and so pretty much set them up.

Post by **haas mark** » 2002-11-09 03:04am

Coyote: another question for you then. What about Purgatory? Where does that fit into this equation? How about Limbo?

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