Ryan-O-Neal has cancer

Something sounds awfully weird with this quote.

1. Stage IV prostate cancer is curable? I mean, even with a well differentiated tumour, does this make sense?

2. You detected a Stage IV cancer "early"? By what definition is that early?

Anyone who knows better can tell me whether he's right or is Ryan too shocked from the diagnosis to be coherent?

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None of this is openly 'delusional' It is short on specific information. Stage IV prostate cancer actually breaks down into many different forms, with very different prognosis. Its not that good a guide to anything as a result. If it is still localized, has not spread into bones, and is well differentiated its still very treatable and it might even be possible to cut it all out. It could be 'early' in that it has only spread slightly from the prostate. Even with prostate cancer gets into the bones which is normally the worst place it can spread, it can still be treated with radioactive strontium-89 injections, its just not likely you'll actually stop it.

A full recovery however, well I dunno on that one. It may be highly treatable, and as long as the spread is stopped prostate cancer won't kill you but its very situational if you can actually eliminate prostate cancer. For one thing, he doesn't mention how aggressive the cancer is. If he has one of the less aggressive forms then hormone therapy alone may keep it in check for the rest of his life. I wish him the best of luck on this.

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Assuming he's telling the truth and the doctors have given him a good prognosis, does that really count as 'delusional'?

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The very definition of a stage IV prostate cancer is that its no longer localised but has spread beyond the prostate.

http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/pdq/ ... ient/page2

I'm just curious in case there was some major breakthrough in the field .

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The definition is that it has spread past the prostate. As your own link indicates, without using the term localized one way or another I might add, what this actually means is highly variable. It could be anywhere from slightly into the fat around it to inside ones stomach or lungs or even brain. It can also spread down into the legs and knees. In fact Stage IV is often broken down into Stage IV D1 and Stage IV D2 to help with this distinction. D1 is a localized spread, mainly it means it has spread into the pelvic lymph nodes which actually wrap around the prostate, or the urethra and associated piping which also directly interlink with the prostate, while D2 means its wider ranging.

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"This cult of special forces is as sensible as to form a Royal Corps of Tree Climbers and say that no soldier who does not wear its green hat with a bunch of oak leaves stuck in it should be expected to climb a tree"
— Field Marshal William Slim 1956

Ok... taking knowledge which is probably 5 years old, no stage IV prostate cancer is curable. Surgery for prostate cancer which has spread to the pelvic region isn't usually considered due to the poor benefits and other known side effects.

At that point, it really doesn't matter what Gleason score you have, because it isn't curable.

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I've read elsewhere that it was Stage 2 prostate cancer not 4. Yahoo News.

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By the sacred crotch of Arkvoodle!

Turns out the Daily Mail is wrong again.

I'm shocked, SHOCKED by this development.

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Lol. So, its not Ryan with the delusion, but rather, the Daily mail. Duly noted.

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