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Sun's gravity could be tapped to call E.T.

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Saw this the other day and thought it was pretty interesting.
Sun's gravity could be tapped to call E.T.
Since massive stars cause light to bend, focal points may be found


Our own sun might represent the best communications device around, if only we could harness its power, scientists say.

If the sun's gravity could be used to create a giant telescope, people could send and receive intensely magnified signals that could allow us to call an alien civilization, some researchers propose.

According to Einstein's general relativity, the sun's behemoth mass warps space-time around it, which actually bends light rays passing by like a giant lens. If a detector was placed at the right focal distance to collect the light, the resulting image would be extremely magnified.

The only catch is, the nearest focal point is about 550 times the distance between the Earth and the sun.

Nonetheless, eventually harnessing this power might enable Earth to view distant objects, communicate with interstellar probes, and even contact aliens, scientists say. The technique could be applied to optical light, or longer-wavelength light in the radio spectrum, for example.

Plus, an even stronger network could be created by placing relay spacecraft near other stars to form "radio bridges" across the great voids between stars that weaken and distort cosmic communiques.

"If we use the sun as a gravitational lens, then we can keep in touch with our own probes even at considerable interstellar distances," said Claudio Maccone, technical director of the Paris-based International Academy of Astronautics, and author of a new study on the mechanics of the proposed technique.

"This is key to exploring the neighborhood of our galaxy in the centuries to come," he said.

And alien civilizations might have already discovered this means of long-distance calling, Maccone said. If so, we might be able to intercept their messages.

The research was detailed in a recent issue of the journal Acta Astronautica.

Phoning deep space

To guide NASA rovers on Mars or to tell the Cassini spacecraft to snap pictures of Saturn, scientists rely on the U.S. space agency's Deep Space Network.

The network's antenna arrays pack enough power to keep astronomers in contact with the twin Voyager probes some 10 billion miles (16 billion kilometers) from Earth and flying through our solar system's edge.

As far as that might sound, it is small potatoes when compared with the span between the sun and its nearest stellar neighbors, the triple-star Alpha Centauri system, located 4.37 light-years, or around 26 trillion miles (41 trillion km) afield.

Communicating with aliens that far away, or even with our own spacecraft sent on distant missions, is a real issue.

Over these celestial distances, our electromagnetic communications signals grow feeble and garbled by ambient "space noise," such as the cosmic microwave background radiation, the relic heat signature from the birth of the universe 13.7 billion years ago.

This interference could scramble half of the information exchanged between us and intrepid, Alpha Centauri-bound explorers or probes in the future, according to Maccone's calculations.

So even if humankind went star-hopping, staying connected might be impossible, Maccone said.

"For interstellar missions, the number one problem we normally face is that we don't know how to propel a spacecraft that far," Maccone said, yet "communication is equally important."

Building a bridge

To set up a radio bridge, we'd need to start placing a relay satellite at the minimum distance from the sun where bent light could convene at a focal point about 550 times the distance between the Earth and the sun, or 550 astronomical units (AU).

Then, on the receiver side of things Alpha Centauri, say a second relay station would be established to boost incoming and outgoing signals.

For the biggest Alpha Centauri star, which is a shade more massive than the sun, the minimal focal distance turns out to be 749 AU from that star.

With these relays in place, the error rate between the two points would drop from 1-in-2 to 1-in-2 million on par with the accuracy achieved by the DSN in our local solar environment.

Shockingly little transmitting power is needed, too: just one-tenth of a milliwatt, or several orders of magnitude less than the DSN's antennas, Maccone found.

Maccone also gauged the focal points and transmission strengths for two other nearby stars: Barnard's star, a small red dwarf, and Sirius, a blue giant, which are located 5.6 and 8.6 light-years from Earth, respectively.

A 'provocative concept'

While it may be many eons before humankind ever projects itself 26,000 light-years into the core of the Milky Way, and even longer to reach the Andromeda Galaxy 2.5 million light-years away, Maccone showed that radio bridges could enable far-flung correspondence.

Bob Cesarone, strategy development manager for the DSN at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, who was not involved in the study, calls Maccone's two-way interstellar radio bridge "a very provocative concept."

Cesarone said that such a system might well succeed the current DSN, though optical frequencies lasers, that is look like a nearer-term solution for what is at any rate a problem that humanity won't have to deal with for decades.

Is E.T. phoning (our) home?

If an advanced alien civilization has wired up the stars via gravitational lensing, Maccone said, the ongoing extraterrestrial-seeking SETI (search for extraterrestrial intelligence) program could attempt to eavesdrop on the conversation.

Earth would have to lie in the line-of-sight between the two fixed endpoints of the listening posts, which is a drawback to deploying such a telecommunications system in the first place.

But if aliens have spotted our solar system with its appealingly habitable inner planets, they might drop us a line, Maccone said, albeit a less energetic one than SETI normally looks for.

"Now that we know that stars are very powerful lenses, we might expect that alien civilizations could transmit with much lower power if they know roughly where we can possibly be," Maccone said.

Nevertheless, engineers would have their hands full in rolling out a gravitational lensing interstellar radio network.

For starters, relay stations would have to remain precisely aligned with respect to each other and their stellar amplifiers over extreme distances, Maccone said.

This will require revolutionary celestial navigation and orientation systems, such as a galactic GPS powered by pulsars.

And although these radio bridges might help us keep in touch, the Einsteinian universal speed limit of light (and therefore information) means that a dialogue would take a very long time anyway.

Given the distance, a message relayed between a colony on an as-yet-undiscovered habitable world at Alpha Centauri, "Avatar"-style, would have a round-trip time of nearly nine years.

"At this moment, there is no solution to the problem of the [time] delay," Maccone told SPACE.com. "But the good news is that now we have a reliable way to communicate across interstellar distances."
This quote from the comments sums up another arguably more useful application the article doesn't discuss.
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"Since the technology being discussed is well ahead of what we are currently able to achieve..."
We have the tech to do this now. We already use gravitational lensing for cosmological observations, when galaxies are (by happenstance from our point of view) in a direct line, which magnifies much more distant objects.

This project proposes that we do the same thing, using our Sun as a gravitational lens, rather than a very distant galaxy. Further, since our spaceship-mounted antenna could be moved, we could look at any number of different stars.

The project as written about in the article would be useful for the search for aliens, but not at all mentioned in the article is that the telescope would be wonderful for traditional astronomy.

The only limitations (and a very real limit) is the money and interest in doing this type of project. It would be very expensive, comparable to several of Hubble telescopes, and it would take several decades to build and position.

Worth it? Maybe, maybe not. Do-able? Yes.

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Cool. I've actually heard of the idea of using the Sun's gravity as a telescope before, way back when I was a kid. Supposedly you could theoretically resolve continent sized objects as far away as Andromeda with a lens that large. But it never occurred to me you could use it for communications.
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Another potentially very cool thing about solar gravitational lensing: beyond being able to focus electromagnetic waves (for more detail re imaging missions like FOCAL and solar-gravitational-lensed interstellar communications, see Dr. Maccone's book (via Google Books) here, and his presentation slides (pdf link) here; also more general discussion here, here, here, and here), the sun's gravitational lens can also focus neutrinos and gravitational waves (with a considerably shorter focal length for the transparent sun, a relatively very close ~24 AU or so). It may be more difficult to get a LIGO/LISA-type detector (let alone a massive neutrino detector!) out to the minimum focal length than a single optical or radio telescope with present propulsion technology, but that distance is at least closer than the 550+ AU of the opaque sun's (for electromagnetic waves) gravitational focus. The possibilities for future observatories are indeed intriguing. (See, e.g., here, here, and here.)
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Reading this has gotten me thinking: What if we could use a smaller body as a lens, such as say, the Moon, or Earth itself? It wouldn't be nearly as good as the sun, but think about it, we could see Pluto for once if we could! Or use it as a better antenna than any we have right now, I mean, it's better than waiting 152 years* until a probe/telescope gets to the nearest solar focal point.

*Assuming we can fire a probe/telescope to the focal point at the same speed of Voyager 1, which is about 3.5 AU/year.
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Imperial528 wrote:Reading this has gotten me thinking: What if we could use a smaller body as a lens, such as say, the Moon, or Earth itself? It wouldn't be nearly as good as the sun, but think about it, we could see Pluto for once if we could! Or use it as a better antenna than any we have right now, I mean, it's better than waiting 152 years* until a probe/telescope gets to the nearest solar focal point.

*Assuming we can fire a probe/telescope to the focal point at the same speed of Voyager 1, which is about 3.5 AU/year.
The problem gets bigger, not smaller: The sun is so massive that it has a nice effect on electomagnetic radiation. The Earth or the Moon have much less gravitational pull, and thus would produce LESS "lensing" effect. The focal point for using the earth would be FURTHER away than for using the sun. You want your "lens" to be as massive as possible.
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I was afraid of that.

Ah well. Fast rockets it will have to be.
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Frankly, it will not get done within our lifetimes. Reading stuff like this makes me wish we as a species could dispense with military spending and shovel all those piles upon piles of money into scientific research and hardware. You could do that mission for half the yearly budget the US spends on its military: a vast undertaking, to be sure, but not at all impossible, and the spinoff technologies would be absurdly awesome by themselves.

Of course the world is as it is and nobody's going to be demilitarizing any time soon.
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Space weapons would totally dominate any country in the world. Once rival militaries realise that you would get all those juicy defense budgets going into space projects people so far only dreamed about. Its a win-win scenario for the military and science and I think one of only few ways grand visions about space can be realized.
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Actually it's a win-win-lose scenario with the loser being the guys stuck on the planet perpetually two seconds away from eradication, but yeah it's the only realistic way to push for space infrastructure and use some of the defence monies to pay for exploration technologies :P
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