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CaptHawkeye wrote:So according to him a near-death experience can prove the existence of god? That's about as usefull as telling us we can discover what the afterlife is like by dieing.
Sorta reminds me of the scene in Undiscovered Country where Spock tells McCoy that he can't tell him what it's like to die since there's no common frame of reference. "You mean I have to die to hear your thoughts on death?" :lol:
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Why doesn't he just kill himself and prove to us there's a God by appearing to us as an angel?
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Retard wrote:3 - x-tian ?You fucking little godless turd . . . write the full name . To busy being godless to write properly ?
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Darth Wong wrote: E-mails always contain a header which indicates a source IP address. The header is not displayed by your mail software by default, but if you right-click on the message and ask to "view source", you will be able to see the raw header in all its geeky glory.
Ok after much fucking around this what I found:
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Cpl Kendall wrote:
Darth Wong wrote: E-mails always contain a header which indicates a source IP address. The header is not displayed by your mail software by default, but if you right-click on the message and ask to "view source", you will be able to see the raw header in all its geeky glory.
Ok after much fucking around this what I found:
Received: by 10.90.75.16 with HTTP; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 07:16:30 -0700 (PDT)
That's too early in the chain. Try posting the entire header block; I know it looks like unintelligible garbage, but we can probably make something out of it.
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Darth Wong wrote: That's too early in the chain. Try posting the entire header block; I know it looks like unintelligible garbage, but we can probably make something out of it.
Hopefully this is what your looking for:
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Obviously I am Joe Bloggins. And just a warning, I sent him a link to the thread after his response and this is what I got back:
ha ha ha . . . i will be on that little crap forum of yours soon enough you little cunt . As for mocking . . . i am only starting you shit , i have pleanty of time to throw shit at you , bring a few friends , i dont care . Fuck the whole of you .
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It is actually the same IP, so either he's a customer of Romtelcom/ARtelecom or he uses a proxy there... but it seems there's no proxy there, so I'd bet half a dime that he is actually Romanian (or at least in Romaina)
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Isn't Xtian or X'mas a valid way of depicting christians? Sure, its a bit obscure, but that was how christians used to depict themselves back in Roman days due to the Latin language... Something about the letter X and christ.
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In the interests of disclosure and to head off the inevitable screeching of thehumblehamster here's the entire exchange:
I wrote: Joe Bloggins
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So your rebuttal to Mike's points about Christianity is to threaten him with assualt and murder? Thanks for proving his point about xtian morality, your a stunning example of your faith.

Peace Be Upon You

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thehumblehamster wrote: First of all . . . . who the fuck are you ? Are you that shit head Mike ? No . Then go dig your mother cunt you little shit !
2 - Stabbing , shooting or anything alse that be immagined is not the point in itself , as you presumed you little shit but mearly a mean to an end . The idea was that ones he is not among the living he will see for himself that he is wrong and will fucking burn , the knife would mearly bring him closer to his inevitable fate .
3 - x-tian ?You fucking little godless turd . . . write the full name . To busy being godless to write properly ?
4 - As for me being a " Stunnig example " ? Thank you , you little godlesss peace of filth .
5 - whom ever you are . . . tell that stupid son of a whore to try to curse me himself .
I wrote: Seeing as your simply going to froth at the mouth like a rabid dog, here's a link where you can see us all mock you and your xtian friends in general:


https://bbs.stardestroyer.net/viewtopic ... 01#2896601

Enjoy.
thehumblehamster wrote: ha ha ha . . . i will be on that little crap forum of yours soon enough you little cunt . As for mocking . . . i am only starting you shit , i have pleanty of time to throw shit at you , bring a few friends , i dont care . Fuck the whole of you .
And Painrack, IIRC xtian is an accepted way of refering to christians and I've seen it all across the net. NAturally there's always a few that insist on the proper spelling or that you capitalise god.
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thehumblehamster wrote: ha ha ha . . . i will be on that little crap forum of yours soon enough you little cunt . As for mocking . . . i am only starting you shit , i have pleanty of time to throw shit at you , bring a few friends , i dont care . Fuck the whole of you .
Suuuuuuuuuuure he will. For about as long as it takes a thirteen-year-old to hammer out two or three poorly-spelled threads replete with obscure references to genitals and comical threats of violence.
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He will not be on this forum, not with a free E-mail... :wink:
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Cpl Kendall wrote: And Painrack, IIRC xtian is an accepted way of refering to christians and I've seen it all across the net. NAturally there's always a few that insist on the proper spelling or that you capitalise god.
I find it something of an eyesore myself. It seems about on the same level as using M$ for Microsoft.
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Cpl Kendall wrote:Hopefully this is what your looking for:
Yup, that's it (I edited your post to remove the cipher keys because they were very long non-breaking strings and they broke the page formatting). Looks like he used the same IP address to access Yahoo Mail, so he might be in Romania, or he might simply have the same Romanian proxy set as default in his browser all the time.

In any case, he's obviously a blustering little coward who will hide behind fake E-mails and pseudonyms forever, and who couldn't construct a cogent argument to save his life. Typical chickenshit. In his childish mind, he actually thinks that "if I stab you, then you'll discover I was right all along!" is actually a valid rebuttal to "there is no evidence to support your position".
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Frank Hipper wrote:He will not be on this forum, not with a free E-mail... :wink:
Ummm, is this a good time to say, I got on here with a free email... I had previously emailed Mike, so that may have had something to do with it.

Other than that, I love the idea of killing this guy with kindness and then using his own hypocrisy against him. It'd make a great addition to the hatemail site, among all the people trying to keep up the "Christian" appearance while obviously burning with hate underneath.
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General Zod wrote:
Solauren wrote: His Grammar problems are obviously caused by him not taking his hand off his dick while mastrubating to God. Someone should point out to him that mastrubating over a male makes one homosexual.

Fundies are so fun to annoy (win they start it) :wink:
You misspelled "when" and "masturbating" on purpose didn't you?
I'm hoping he'll come and read the thread and see the irony.

Of course, that's highly unlikely, but I find little things like that can amuse me on occasion.
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General Zod wrote:
I find it something of an eyesore myself. It seems about on the same level as using M$ for Microsoft.
Its not something I lose sleep over but at least with xtian it doesn't take long to figure out what it means. With M$ I often don't clue in that they mean Microsoft.
Darth Wong wrote: In any case, he's obviously a blustering little coward who will hide behind fake E-mails and pseudonyms forever, and who couldn't construct a cogent argument to save his life. Typical chickenshit. In his childish mind, he actually thinks that "if I stab you, then you'll discover I was right all along!" is actually a valid rebuttal to "there is no evidence to support your position".
I imagine that he's also ignorant (willfully no doubt) that one could find someone that had the opposite experiance of what he thinks will happen. IIRC there was even a study posted on this very board that stated near death experiances were simply the optic nerves continuing to send signals that the brain couldn't process properly. Resulting in the brain just making up shit and throwing up familiar and comforting images.
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What I find a bit odd is that he can properly spell "excelsior" (which is one that I could probably easily fuck up) yet words far more simple seem to stump his abilities.
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Cpl Kendall wrote: I imagine that he's also ignorant (willfully no doubt) that one could find someone that had the opposite experiance of what he thinks will happen. IIRC there was even a study posted on this very board that stated near death experiances were simply the optic nerves continuing to send signals that the brain couldn't process properly. Resulting in the brain just making up shit and throwing up familiar and comforting images.
Hell, I could find it just by checking Kerry Packer's Wikipedea entry.
Packer reportedly suffered as many as eight heart attacks. In 1990, while playing polo at Warwick Farm, Sydney, he suffered a heart attack that left him clinically dead for six minutes. Packer was revived and later famously told reporter Ray Martin on A Current Affair, "The good news is there is no devil. The bad news is there is no heaven."


(yeah, Wikipedia, I know, but I also happen to know that it's true, so nyah.)

Who do you trust more? A dead Australian billionaire or some random guy from Romania?
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Excessively Violent Hamsterbrained Fundie wrote: I quite expected to have some little cunt heretic take a shot at me but i did not really immagine that fellow Christians
will be on the side of the vile heretics . Oh well , i will fight you as well , you will go to the same hell that they will go .

Dude , seriously . . . TAKE THAT LIBERAL , BLEEDING HEART BULLSHIT AND SHOVE IT

You are offended ? Like a give a shit . . Life si war , get used to it !
Violence doesent solve anything ? Are you retarded ? Read a fucking history book you mindless worm , it has solved more problems that all the other methods combined .
Tipical liberal , " lets go hig trees and sing a song to terrorists " crap !
You dont care what your fellows are , you will be encouranging them you little cunt . And as for Christianity not doing well . . from where the fuck are you , in my country churches are allways full and
everyone is a christian . All that statistics that i ever saw confirmed that
Christianity is doing quite well on the Globe . Are from San francisco or something ? fag . Go back to your fags and die.

Evil begets evil ? exactly you fuck ! They must be faught by word and by the sword if need be , your retarded tolerance and equality crap will only spawn more of these fuckers . Fucking retard !
As for me growing up . I am preety tall as i am , i would be glad to prove my age by kicking you in the face , you weak willed fuck .
As for Narrow minded world view . . . hell you can take it in the ass from all the scum of this world for what i care . diversity and tollerance my ass , you are only sucking there cock !

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My riposte to this truly evil fuck wrote:My my, aren't you the violent little one? I expect some day to hear about some 'Crusader for Christ' suicide-bombing a gay bar or something like that with a screaming diatribe such as yours. You do realize, Mr. Bush, that all you're doing is giving Christianity a bad rap with your hateful rhetoric.

As for the 'LOL U A LIBERAL U GO 2 HELL!11' Damn right I'm liberal; I wear that distinction with pride! I don't see your worldview offering insights into how the Universe works or cures for AIDS or the wonderful bits of technology that allow you to talk to ANYONE on this planet you choose for a low flat monthly rate. All your worldview promulgates is poverty, hunger, suffering, pain, torture, and death!

I also don't think your warlike attitude has much use this day and age. We need less war, not more. All war does is make the ultra-rich richer and kill everyone else. You'd make a fine Republican.

I also find it just HILARIOUS that you'd misinterpret my admonition to 'Grow Up' as purely literally physical growth instead of the mental and spiritual maturation you so very fucking obviously desperately need.

Let us pray:

"God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change; the courage to change the things I can; and the wisdom to know the difference." --Reinhold Niebuhr, The Serenity Prayer

Till then, the 21st Century is for more liberal science-based people to have; I will not allow you and your smallminded fundamentalist Taliban kind to institute any kind of Christian Sharia or other such authoritarian masturbatory fantasies borrowed from places like Iran or morally bankrupt religion such as Wahhabism.

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Zixinus wrote:On second thought, if you really want to piss this guy off just mail him auto-generated looking notification e-mail about how his IP address is blocked.

If there is one thing that can piss off a troll, is to politely tell them that their gibberish will be unheard.
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PainRack wrote:Isn't Xtian or X'mas a valid way of depicting christians? Sure, its a bit obscure, but that was how christians used to depict themselves back in Roman days due to the Latin language... Something about the letter X and christ.
It's from the Greek Chi, Rho, Iota (X,P,I) which are the first letters of the Greek spelling of Christos, or Christ.
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Excessively Violent Hamster wrote:OK now i am amused yet sadly not surprised , all your crap is predictable . I will give you examples on how to do better . At least you bother and send me an email unlike the other fags on that forum . They do nothing but curse behind my back . They accuse me of being a coward who hides behind false iD's while they have " real " Jedi / Sith names and ban me access to the forum . Yes guy , very brave of you ! I should go hide in a trolish manner under some bridge . . . banning me only shows that you guys don't have the will and the balls for a protracted curse match . . .

Near the end of your crap liberal trash , hug trees , sing songs and submit to terrorist little speech you tried ( probably as a joke ) to say a preyer . If you truly want to pray then say " The Creed " and " Our Father " . They are the foundation of faith upon witch you can build . But i don't see you the type . . .

Ok back to " cursing you " part . " Crusader for Christ " , read a history book you cunt ( not the liberal ones , there full of shit , the white guy is always guilty and they always blame Christianity , praising anything else ) it has been done countless times , I would be honored to give my life for Christ , right now i sacrifice my time to curse heretics .
Violent me , no not really i 'm quite peace full in real life , but my brothers and friends are always there is shit happens . . . oh but i forget that you don't believe in violence . The irony is " neither do i " . I just realize it works , again go read a history book retard . Violence has solved more problem then anything else in history . If you believe that i would just kill indiscriminately all those who do not fit my standard you are retarded . The killing part is only for the irremediable cases . You i would just bitch slap a few times . . .
Suicide bombing a gay bar ? You are not only a retarded liberal who repeats the party line , you also have no imagination . I would simply throw a bag of explosives inside and run the fuck away . Why would i kill myself you fucker ?
You called me " Bush " . If you are thinking of the " Still " president , then i Thank You ! If not , go dig your mother !
Giving Christianity a bad rep ? You are mistaking a vulgar way in witch an idea is presented with the idea itself . Shallow liberal , what could i possibly expect ? Those that believe will believe regardless of what i say . As for those who don't . They already deny Christ , my words will have no effect .
Damn right you are a Liberal ( dog ) ! You will suck it with " distinction " and " pride " in Hell .
My world view ? You dumb cunt ! You don't know shit of my world view ! Here i am just cursing heretics . Are you that shallow ? Yes of course you are .
You mentioned AIDS . It depends on who it affects . If it affect Fags , as i hope it dose , then i truly thank God ( Jesus Christ ) for there pain . You might say that He lobes them . . . right . . . and i guess i was an accident that he destroyed them utterly in Sodoma and Gomora !
Poverty , hunger , bla bla . Weak willed liberal , bleeding heart pussy . . . fag . These problems have been a part of the human condition since the fall from grace and will be so until Judgment day . Look at what Christ says about the sick and the needy , He says that they will always be with us . Your semi - communist utopic ideas will not change that . Not now , not Ever .
" Need less war , not more " , How much of a tree hugger can you possibly get ?
Me a fine republican ? Thank you ! Thank you very much !
The 21st century ? is for those with the will and power to take for themselves , not the tree hugging hippies like you . You type is always crushed . The prophet that comes with the sword conquers , the one that comes empty handed ( or in your case probably flowers ) is stoned to death . You poor , poor little hippy . . keep dreaming of your communist utopia , while you go to hell one step at a time .
Small minded Taliban militia ? I certainly wish i had one , although without the beards . . . If by " small minded " you mean one who is righteous and who will not deviate from fate in the name of " Cultural diversity " then you are certainly right about me . You will not allow me ? Aha , and what exactly will you do to me may i ask . Send me a letter of protest ? If your pathetic attempts to damage my faith were paper , i would have wipes my ass with them many times . Go ahead . . . whine liberal , whine . . . .
Authoritarian masturbatory fantasies - truly nice one . . . thank you , people so rarely curse me in a marginally original fashion . Do come up with more !

One more thing and i go do something else ( speculate all you want , see if i give a fuck . . . ) , tell that fuck headed " Darth Wong " to go blow his mother and a few dogs for that matter . And tell him to take the " chickenshit " expression and do exactly that with a chicken on his whore of a mother . If he is worried that i may not be old enough tell him that i will climb on a chair if a have to , so his mother can suck my cock . As for me being a coward . . . tell the shit to allow me on the forum , lest see if i back away . As for " cogent argument " , let the fucker go cogent argument his mother . Punk . . .


But i do not wish to detain you further . . . i am sure that you are busy giving aid and comfort to Americas enemies . Go sing some song hippy . . . Mad railgunner , would you have the balls to use one if you had it ? Or would you decorate it with flowers and shit . . .

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Fear the verbal retaliation, Ein...
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Aww, poor baby! You can practically feel the tears coming off this seven year old's eyes as he screams and tantrums over a bunch of strangers on the internet mocking him. Next thing you know, he'll go tell the teacher on us only to be told politely to fuck off. :lol:

Not that this fundie dumbfuck knows this, but his overblown childish reactions is arguing more for our side than his. After all, look who is being more rational and mature (not like it's hard).

Here's to another round of mockery. :twisted:
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Looks like he's desperate for attention. He just E-mailed me at my contact form again:
Some little fucker thought that i would be easily impressed and saddened by a few little : " Oh , you are so stupid , we are so enlightened ! " remarks , and he mailed me a link to a part of the forum . I was so happy that maybe someone will at least try to put up a proper fight with words . Not for the first time when dealing with such people , i was disappointed .
Come on you mongrel heretics , you can make better curses then that . I will be waiting . Since i could not log on there for some reason on that forum i will just have to write here and hope that it will get to the right people .
Ok so , let us begin :

Someone accused me of having hairy palms or something . That is Ok , given the chance i will slap the fucker with my " hairy palms " . And by the way , asshole , my palms are no where near as hairy as your mothers face you mongrel , pig shit sucking scum . Make better curses for Fuck's sake . Calling me stupid just will not work . . .

Someone else said that i suck at using language . I was speaking of life and death and the shallow fuck was only interested in orthography . . . what a fucking retard , Dude , i don't have to be accurate with words i only use to curse . Did your mother dropped you on your head or something ?

Redneck ? Is that suppose to be an offense ? Those are the people that made America great , as opposed to the liberal trash that are fucking it today . Oh i know , lets pull the troops out and give the terrorists flowers and sing a few songs . Retarded fucks all of you , hope i don't take too much of your time , you do have to go suck Obama's cock .

Another one said i was a shitpeace ( or something . . ) . Since that asshole brought up shit . . . Oh well you shit for brains fag . . . go shit on your mother ( i certainly will given the chance ) . . . fuck you are going to do about it ? I will say what i fucking want ! Freedom of Speech lovers , when that comes form someone who is not as " Left " as you are you say it does not longer work , fuck you !

One more thing i will return to my day to day stuff . Zixinus is clearly a Hungarian dog and a coward . I deal with plenty of them . Go ahead and Hide Zixinus , ban IP and stuff . . . fucking coward .


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