THE POPE IS DEAD (Moment of Silence)

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Post by kheegster » 2005-04-02 04:02pm

For his strength and compassion, and courage in the face of death....
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Post by Fire Fly » 2005-04-02 04:09pm

While I didn't agree with everything he taught and believed, I do think that he was a man who tried to guide people to do good unto others, to help and to defend the weak. And no person deserves to suffer from the ravages of Parkinsons Disease. May his soul be at peace.

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Post by Vendetta » 2005-04-02 04:13pm

I find these rest in peace threads strange for a board usually so committed to the stance that death is the end.

There is no longer a Karol Józef Wojtyła to rest in peace. The only things left are the ways he affected the world, and they were a mix of good and bad influences.

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Post by Petrosjko » 2005-04-02 04:20pm

Vendetta wrote:I find these rest in peace threads strange for a board usually so committed to the stance that death is the end.

There is no longer a Karol Józef Wojtyła to rest in peace. The only things left are the ways he affected the world, and they were a mix of good and bad influences.
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Post by Pick » 2005-04-02 04:21pm

I hope that he rests in peace.

Though he did some things I didn't agree with, much of that might have been as a result of the restrictions that the Pope has (self-incurred but present nonetheless.) Considering the kind of person you have to be to become Pope, I felt that he was a very good man.
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Post by BlkbrryTheGreat » 2005-04-02 04:32pm

Durandal wrote:If you want to argue about whether the Pope did a good job or not, take it here.
Fair enough- though its not like I could have known that through the thread titles alone.
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Post by Trytostaydead » 2005-04-02 05:04pm

RIP. He brought both good and bad influences, and some his stances I did not agree with.. though some stances should've been expected and we probably can't expect the Church to change for a long time. Parkinson's itself is a horrible disease both physically and mentally, and one has to wonder whether or not if the Pope was afflicted he would've at least softened or changed his tone on a few things. Though in the years one has to admit he has done a lot of outreaching to bring a positive change not just to the church but the world. RIP.

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Post by Coyote » 2005-04-02 05:07pm

Well, he stood for some things I agree with and for some things I disagree with. I think he was a decent guy overall, and I hope he rests in peace.
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Post by Mark S » 2005-04-02 05:11pm

It seems as though he'd been fighting death for a while now with all the ailments he'd been through in the past. He can finally be at peace.
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Post by Companion Cube » 2005-04-02 05:13pm

Agree with or disagree with him, he's beyond that now.
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Post by Iceberg » 2005-04-02 05:20pm

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Post by darthdavid » 2005-04-02 05:42pm

He did good and bad. But whatever you have to say about him, he was a badass. You have to be to get shot, almost die and then forgive the person who shot you. RIP

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Post by Rubberanvil » 2005-04-02 06:04pm

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Post by tumbletom » 2005-04-02 07:54pm

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Post by General Brock » 2005-04-02 09:26pm

:!: May he rest in peace.

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Post by Durandal » 2005-04-02 09:46pm

Edited the thread title. This thread is strictly for those who want to wish the Pope a peaceful eternal rest or something similar, not for debates about his policies.
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Post by Sam Or I » 2005-04-02 09:49pm

For one of the greats in history. RIP

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Post by Straha » 2005-04-02 10:03pm

So passes the best damn pope that poor religion ever had...
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Post by Nieztchean Uber-Amoeba » 2005-04-02 10:09pm

Say what you will about his doctrine, he fought Nazis, Soviets, forgave a man who tried to kill him, and retained his dignity while he suffered from a number of crippling diseases. I may not mourn the death of a man whose policies so adamantly contradict my own, but I will give him the respect he deserves.

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Post by Mlenk » 2005-04-02 10:10pm

May he RIP.....

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Post by Nieztchean Uber-Amoeba » 2005-04-02 10:16pm

May he rest in peace.

Can't imagine why I didn't put that into my first post.

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Post by Skelron » 2005-04-02 10:30pm

As others have said a somehwat flawed man like us all, but a great man. A Man who was smarter than I will ever be, possesed of patience and kindness. A Man that died a good death, and in a way I envy and hope when my time comes I can show even a fraction of the patience.

In the end My pope, the only Pope I have ever known, the man whose face I will always think of as the Pope I suspect. As a catholic I have disagreed with him on some areas, but I will miss him.
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