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Bilbo wrote:Read the article. Tried not to laugh. Jimmy Carter gets used like a tool by Hamas, doesnt know it, and makes stupid statements about peace.

What a pathetic farce. The man truly is an idiot.

Darth Wong wrote:

Bilbo wrote:Read the article. Tried not to laugh. Jimmy Carter gets used like a tool by Hamas, doesnt know it, and makes stupid statements about peace.

What a pathetic farce. The man truly is an idiot.

It's a good thing you're here with your vastly superior knowledge and experience in international affairs to set the record straight with your carefully thought-out correction and explanation, right?

Bilbo wrote:Former President sits down with murderous bastards. Murderous bastards on the "word" of another arab want peace. Murderous bastards say a few pretty words and stop attacks for a short period. Former President now ignorant tool says stupid shit like "they want peace".

Yeah takes a lot of brains to figure that one out Wong.

The New York Times wrote: January 9, 2009
Fighter Sees His Paradise in Gaza’s Pain
By TAGHREED EL-KHODARY
GAZA CITY — The emergency room in Shifa Hospital is often a place of gore and despair. On Thursday, it was also a lesson in the way ordinary people are squeezed between suicidal fighters and a military behemoth.

Dr. Awni al-Jaru, 37, a surgeon at the hospital, rushed in from his home here, dressed in his scrubs. But he came not to work. His head was bleeding, and his daughter’s jaw was broken.

He said Hamas militants next to his apartment building had fired mortar and rocket rounds. Israel fired back with force, and his apartment was hit. His wife, Albina, originally from Ukraine, and his 1-year-old son were killed.

“My son has been turned into pieces,” he cried. “My wife was cut in half. I had to leave her body at home.” Because Albina was a foreigner, she could have left Gaza with her children. But, Dr. Jaru lamented, she would not leave him behind.

A car arrived with more patients. One was a 21-year-old man with shrapnel in his left leg who demanded quick treatment. He turned out to be a militant with Islamic Jihad. He was smiling a big smile.

“Hurry, I must get back so I can keep fighting,” he told the doctors.

He was told that there were more serious cases than his, that he needed to wait. But he insisted. “We are fighting the Israelis,” he said. “When we fire we run, but they hit back so fast. We run into the houses to get away.” He continued smiling.

“Why are you so happy?” this reporter asked. “Look around you.”

A girl who looked about 18 screamed as a surgeon removed shrapnel from her leg. An elderly man was soaked in blood. A baby a few weeks old and slightly wounded looked around helplessly. A man lay with parts of his brain coming out. His family wailed at his side.

“Don’t you see that these people are hurting?” the militant was asked.

“But I am from the people, too,” he said, his smile incandescent. “They lost their loved ones as martyrs. They should be happy. I want to be a martyr, too.”

Carter wrote:[...] Israel launched an attack in Gaza to destroy a defensive tunnel being dug by Hamas inside the wall that encloses Gaza.

Bilbo wrote:Yeah takes a lot of brains to figure that one out Wong.

Beowulf wrote:“We are fighting the Israelis,” he said. “When we fire we run, but they hit back so fast. We run into the houses to get away.” He continued smiling.

“Why are you so happy?” this reporter asked. “Look around you.”

[...]

“Don’t you see that these people are hurting?” the militant was asked.

“But I am from the people, too,” he said, his smile incandescent. “They lost their loved ones as martyrs. They should be happy. I want to be a martyr, too.”

Ryan Thunder wrote:What the hell is a defensive tunnel for them? What are they going to do with it?

“We are fighting the Israelis,” he said. “When we fire we run, but they hit back so fast. We run into the houses to get away.” He continued smiling.

“Why are you so happy?” this reporter asked. “Look around you.”

[...]

“Don’t you see that these people are hurting?” the militant was asked.

“But I am from the people, too,” he said, his smile incandescent. “They lost their loved ones as martyrs. They should be happy. I want to be a martyr, too.”

Edi wrote:Israel seems to have a hard on for destroying hospitals and clinics run by foreign aid organizations...

Former President sits down with murderous bastards. Murderous bastards on the "word" of another arab want peace. Murderous bastards say a few pretty words and stop attacks for a short period. Former President now ignorant tool says stupid shit like "they want peace".

Yeah takes a lot of brains to figure that one out Wong.

Ender wrote:Jon Stewart launched into a criticism of this on TDS' first new episode of the year. And he and the show have been apparently taking some heavy flak from politicians, sponsors, viewers, etc.

Coyote wrote:

Ender wrote:Jon Stewart launched into a criticism of this on TDS' first new episode of the year. And he and the show have been apparently taking some heavy flak from politicians, sponsors, viewers, etc.

What's their angle? TDS (indeed, all streaming) is blocked at my work.

Ender wrote:Jon Stewart launched into a criticism of this on TDS' first new episode of the year. And he and the show have been apparently taking some heavy flak from politicians, sponsors, viewers, etc. Here is a site to send him and the crew your thoughts on their segment, including a clip of the segment.

Illuminatus Primus wrote:Of course, because the one thing you can NEVER criticize is Isreal. Seriously, I think criticism of the AFGHAN war effort after 9/11 or discussion of blowback and moral culpability on the part of the U.S. was more tolerated than criticism of Israel.

ray245 wrote:Really simple stuff. Simply saying there is no good or bad in regards to both parties in that conflict.

On their forum, it has caused a huge uproar.

Coyote wrote:

Illuminatus Primus wrote:Of course, because the one thing you can NEVER criticize is Isreal. Seriously, I think criticism of the AFGHAN war effort after 9/11 or discussion of blowback and moral culpability on the part of the U.S. was more tolerated than criticism of Israel.

People criticise Israel constantly, and not just here. Only the most hard-core right wingers refuse to criticise Israel; they treat Israel with softer kid gloves than most Israelis I've met.

What are you trying to do/say?