Pulp Hero wrote:
I'm going to call this right now: After Obama wins, the GOP will bitch about voter fraud and demand recounts/"Oversight" on votes. They will bring up ACORN or two or three fraudulant individuals as proof of biased system against them.
Of course. That's the point of all this. Even the birth-certificate thing(Which recently acheived such a fevered pitch the Hawai'i State Health Department stepped in and said 'YES. GO AWAY. YOU ARE NOT A FAMILY MEMBER, YOU CAN'T HAVE IT!' Link
). The entire point
down to the lawsuit in Ohio to throw him off for 'lack of a proven birth certificate'(Link
) served one purpose: To de-legitimize any Obama victory. Doesn't matter if he walks away with 400+ EV's. Doesn't matter if he takes 75% of the popular. The Right Wing will have their ready-made greivances to claim he's not really a real president. And then the real fun begins as the search for anything to impeach him on starts...
Which is why a big Obama win is important. Because if Obama wins in a landslide and brings a filibuster-proof majority in on his coattails, the Republican party is more than welcome to hunker down in its pig pen and blame whoever they like for their loss--they'll just lose again in 2010 and 2012. The only way they'll gain any traction with that nonsense is if it's a close enough election that fraud is a plausible excuse.
As for impeachment, they won't be impeaching shit in Obama's first term, because there's no fucking way
they'll be able to gain seventy seats in the House in 2010. They can fling all the poop they want, but in the House of Representatives, the Speaker can squash the minority like bugs. Even if by some miracle they got a majority in the Senate, they'll never get control of the House. Obama would have to suck the brains of a live baby through a silly straw, on national television, to get impeached in his first term.
Kane Starkiller wrote:
I wonder what is the percentage of people who simply refuse to answer the question in the polls and who are they most likely to vote. I have a sneaking suspicion that McCain will ultimately win the elections when all the closet racists and closet Republicans (don't want to say they'll vote for McCain to escape any debate about their choice but simply go with their gut feeling) cast their vote for him.
Okay, first, pollsters don't "debate" people's choices. All they ask is who you're going to support.
Second, anyone who refuses to answer is marked undecided. And as I detailed in a previous post, even if all undecideds in every state break for McCain, he still wins with 291 electoral votes (with Ohio exactly tied). For your scenario to work, polled Obama voters would have to be outright lying, and we've already had endless discussions about the Bradley effect.