Posted: 2003-02-12 04:01pm
Besides I thought Ray Cav JOINED the Orks....
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Hopefully he was wearing a C4 suit at the time...The Yosemite Bear wrote:Besides I thought Ray Cav JOINED the Orks....
Make sure I'm in it raining gratuitous amounts of lead on nasties.Keevan_Colton wrote:You know...the more I think about the more I realise what a fun fic this would be to write....
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I'm just sketching down a sort of starting scene right now....I'll be back soon to do some consultingAdmiral Valdemar wrote:Make sure I'm in it raining gratuitous amounts of lead on nasties.Keevan_Colton wrote:You know...the more I think about the more I realise what a fun fic this would be to write....
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No on what?His Divine Shadow wrote:PainRack pretty much said no to that idea with some fool brought it up (based on his experience as a conscript in Singapore).
I'm not sure. We have a functioning biochem lab, so we'd likely have to have some power for things like centrifuges, autoclaves and whatnot; maybe solar cells (though those only have a 10-15 year lifespan).Durandal wrote:Does "fully-functional military base" include any sort of power plants? Our electronics aren't going to be running on hopes and dreams. We need some method of power generation.
Given that this base will be the only thing consuming the plant's power, I think it'd be feasible to dam up a river, if we have one near us, or use wind power if we're on a plain. Of course, we could also use any available timber for fuel.
What, are you going to have Galadriel give out some special gifts, like the Magazine of Limitless Ammunition?SirNitram wrote:If Helm's Deep is our fortress, our +5/+5 50 Caliburs of Infinite Ammo and our Everloaded Grenade Launchers(Teehee) will be in position, though I would say we need to camo those.. Exposed gun positions will just invite curiousity from the Two Towers.
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Sodium, maybe?Though from Highschool chem class I remeber goofing an expriment where I dropped a piece of potasium or was it magnesium into some water and it shattered the beaker with the water.
Fuck, if we can get some decent power supply and had the tools, we could make a laser or at least a HPMW.phongn wrote:What, are you going to have Galadriel give out some special gifts, like the Magazine of Limitless Ammunition?SirNitram wrote:If Helm's Deep is our fortress, our +5/+5 50 Caliburs of Infinite Ammo and our Everloaded Grenade Launchers(Teehee) will be in position, though I would say we need to camo those.. Exposed gun positions will just invite curiousity from the Two Towers.
Mike already posted two people for this (both Army captains.) We can hash out our NCOs and other officers from the talent pool. They'll probably have to wear different hats as DIs/DSs for awhile as we get trained.Keevan_Colton wrote:1. Clear command structure : this would be the first step before anything else could be accomplished. Leadership and structure are needed, the basic arrangment suggested before seems to be the best one.
I need to consult my copy of LOTR (see Appendix B), but Saruman has already been ensnared by Sauron at this time, IIRC.I would suggest an early approach to orthanc...if we arrive that early, then Saruman will not have yet fallen....he could be convinced through a demonstration of technology that he really doesnt want to oppose us, thus eliminating half the problems...then gathering together Gondor and Rohan as the main basis of forces.
Someone proposed using demo to destroy the dam. The problem is that none of us have any real skills at demolition other than watching shit blow up, if even that. Furthermore, it is not unlikely that if we try infiltrating to blow the damn we'll get caught - do you want to try and set charges while Uruk-Hai hordes are charging at you, using crossbows, any artillery in Isengard and whatnot?[/quote]phongn wrote:No on what?His Divine Shadow wrote:PainRack pretty much said no to that idea with some fool brought it up (based on his experience as a conscript in Singapore).
Also, who exactly said we would be inside the valley?
Hey, it says in the opening post, those two weapons are infinite ammo, in our perimeter. But the Magazine Of Limitless Ammo is a good gift to ask for. Write that down.phongn wrote:What, are you going to have Galadriel give out some special gifts, like the Magazine of Limitless Ammunition?SirNitram wrote:If Helm's Deep is our fortress, our +5/+5 50 Caliburs of Infinite Ammo and our Everloaded Grenade Launchers(Teehee) will be in position, though I would say we need to camo those.. Exposed gun positions will just invite curiousity from the Two Towers.
How do you propose we fool them with even our numbers and Saruman not noticing?His Divine Shadow wrote:But demolition is not neccesary, it can be done by barricading the entrance after they travel through.
Essentiially split in two, one at Helms Deep fortress and another hidden one to get in behind them to keep them pinned down while we gas them with mustard gas.
Moral will be the biggest problem. I don't think that most SD/SB membersSirNitram wrote: Moral: We are fucked in this way. Think for a moment: We've been ripped from the world we know and thrown out into a medieval-era world, in a military base, no contact with home and about to face a pair of foes with thousands of troops to call on. Establishing links with all the races is absolutely vital, and I do mean all of them.
Of course you mean "morale".Thunderfire wrote:Moral will be the biggest problem. I don't think that most SD/SB membersSirNitram wrote: Moral: We are fucked in this way. Think for a moment: We've been ripped from the world we know and thrown out into a medieval-era world, in a military base, no contact with home and about to face a pair of foes with thousands of troops to call on. Establishing links with all the races is absolutely vital, and I do mean all of them.
are used to follow orders , hard labor , battle ... Turning us into a usefull
fighting force is "mission impossible". We are doomed as soon as someone
find out that we are a bunch of morons with nice stuff.
What do you mean? As in the movies the Orcs will march to Helms Deep, we'll also be there, I don't see how anyone excpects that, nor is this Saruman omniscient either, right?Admiral Valdemar wrote:How do you propose we fool them with even our numbers and Saruman not noticing?His Divine Shadow wrote:But demolition is not neccesary, it can be done by barricading the entrance after they travel through.
Essentiially split in two, one at Helms Deep fortress and another hidden one to get in behind them to keep them pinned down while we gas them with mustard gas.
If you have some thermoptic camo we haven't seen (sic) then let us know.
We have a year before the events of FOTR begin, we have some bona fide military instructors here, and every man has the motivation to survive so he can get home. Anyone who doesn't throw himself into the training and learn to work as part of a team would be a blithering idiot.Thunderfire wrote:Morale will be the biggest problem. I don't think that most SD/SB members are used to follow orders , hard labor , battle ... Turning us into a usefull
fighting force is "mission impossible". We are doomed as soon as someone find out that we are a bunch of morons with nice stuff.
Saruman has spies everywhere, the birds that flyby Helm's Deep for instance.His Divine Shadow wrote:What do you mean? As in the movies the Orcs will march to Helms Deep, we'll also be there, I don't see how anyone excpects that, nor is this Saruman omniscient either, right?Admiral Valdemar wrote:How do you propose we fool them with even our numbers and Saruman not noticing?His Divine Shadow wrote:But demolition is not neccesary, it can be done by barricading the entrance after they travel through.
Essentiially split in two, one at Helms Deep fortress and another hidden one to get in behind them to keep them pinned down while we gas them with mustard gas.
If you have some thermoptic camo we haven't seen (sic) then let us know.
We can use them as bait or target practice if that suits them instead, they'll soon get into shape.Darth Wong wrote:We have a year before the events of FOTR begin, we have some bona fide military instructors here, and every man has the motivation to survive so he can get home. Anyone who doesn't throw himself into the training and learn to work as part of a team would be a blithering idiot.Thunderfire wrote:Morale will be the biggest problem. I don't think that most SD/SB members are used to follow orders , hard labor , battle ... Turning us into a usefull
fighting force is "mission impossible". We are doomed as soon as someone find out that we are a bunch of morons with nice stuff.
Hence why I advocate a base inside Helm's Deep, and camo'd.Admiral Valdemar wrote:Saruman has spies everywhere, the birds that flyby Helm's Deep for instance.His Divine Shadow wrote:What do you mean? As in the movies the Orcs will march to Helms Deep, we'll also be there, I don't see how anyone excpects that, nor is this Saruman omniscient either, right?Admiral Valdemar wrote: How do you propose we fool them with even our numbers and Saruman not noticing?
If you have some thermoptic camo we haven't seen (sic) then let us know.
We'd have to get pretty far away to be unseen or use some camo or something.
If they knew what we were packing then they may think an alternate style of attack, but that may be bad.SirNitram wrote:Hence why I advocate a base inside Helm's Deep, and camo'd.Admiral Valdemar wrote:Saruman has spies everywhere, the birds that flyby Helm's Deep for instance.His Divine Shadow wrote: What do you mean? As in the movies the Orcs will march to Helms Deep, we'll also be there, I don't see how anyone excpects that, nor is this Saruman omniscient either, right?
We'd have to get pretty far away to be unseen or use some camo or something.
Darth Wong wrote:We have a year before the events of FOTR begin, we have some bona fide military instructors here, and every man has the motivation to survive so he can get home. Anyone who doesn't throw himself into the training and learn to work as part of a team would be a blithering idiot.Thunderfire wrote:Morale will be the biggest problem. I don't think that most SD/SB members are used to follow orders , hard labor , battle ... Turning us into a usefull
fighting force is "mission impossible". We are doomed as soon as someone find out that we are a bunch of morons with nice stuff.