Something big

[Crossroads Inc.]

Seeing it with all those guns..
I can envision a "Pirate" version of that ship...
Captured and re-outfitted as a raider. Between the armor and the weapon mount, it would make a pretty beefy pirate raider.
You know... Just thinking aloud.

[fractalsponge1]

Recent doodle:

[Shroom Man 777]

Reminds me of those dagger-shaped fighter-carriers in SW: Rebels (a design I like) that they hijacked.

[Abacus]

Ooooh, an Escort Carrier! Nice. >:D

[Scottish Ninja]

Man, I like the escort carrier, because I like the idea of the Imperial Navy just building cans of INSTANT AIR SUPERIORITY - PULL TAB, but I'm not sure how the original figure of 72 fighters makes sense though on a ship ~8 times the volume of a modern CVN; seems like it should be able to carry more, especially if it's lightly-built and dedicated to an air wring.

[Lord Revan]

Well at least in legendaries the role of an Escort Carrier was not to be mobile hangar away from the main battle but rather to act as a source of cheap fighter support and AA fire for convoys. Compared to modern CVN the escort carriers are quite heavily armed and shielded (not so much in SW terms though) not mention it might not be using 100% of the hangar capacity either and 72 fighters was deemed to be the "optimal" amount so that they can provide enough cover to convoys, while not costing as much as a full star destroyer.

[Geforce]

Beautiful memories tie-fighter simulator are awake

[fractalsponge1]

72 fighters is almost certainly an underestimate.

For comparison, the Venator forward section is on the order of 5e6 m3. This supports a Group of 400+ fighters and the lander and vehicle assets of at least an airmobile brigade. The forward half of the escort carrier is about half of this volume (remember the carrier is very tall relative to the Venator hull form). Assuming equivalent volume distribution, the carrier should be supporting ~200 fighters, in addition to probably a regiment of troops this ship is not really supposed to have. Keep in mind that this is much less "ship" than a Venator Star Destroyer, so the carrier could dedicate even more volume proportionately to hangar function.

I'd accept 72 as a number if there's a combination of the following:
a) the carrier is meant as a recovery platform for more than its own fighters
b) the number refers to maximum stowage of the largest likely fighter to be carried (i.e. StarWing or even Blastboat) - the fighter numbers for ships are always a little suspect if for no other reason than the question of what standard are you choosing to measure by ? - a TIE/ln is puny compared to a Scimitar in terms of space requirements, for instance
c) the carrier really is a mobile starfighter/light craft base, with capacity to do much more logistical work for its fighter complement and that of other ships compared to a normal warship with a hangar, up to an including complete re-manufacturing fighters from spares and burned out recovered chassis

In any event, a carrier configured for ferry flights I would expect could carry hundreds of light fighters like a TIE/ln.

[Crossroads Inc.]

Perhaps different Production models then?

A "shape" like the escort carrier I would imagine could be re-worked into several roles.

A "Maxed out" fighter carrier designed purely to carry as many fighters as possible to the field of battle and disgorge them.
A "Mobile Base" one designed to repair, and even fabricate new fighters.
A "Hybrid" support model, perhaps a mix of refueling and logistics support for long range missions.

Maybe the one always listed with 72 fighters was just a 'Mobile base' version

[Lord Revan]

Or the 72 is a "peacetime" compliment (we got remember that IIRC the empire is not officially at war during the pre-endor portion for the galactic civil war), the escort carriers carry enough fighters to protect against things like pirates or similar but not against a full capship attack.

[Abacus]

Ansel, have you ever thought about doing something like the Kiltirin or Lictor-class dungeon ships?

[evillejedi]

For escort carriers, also have to consider space requirements for shuttles and support craft, the Lambdas and sentinel shuttles just eat volume vertically and it seems like you would have to receive those periodically for inspections or crew transfers. To Ansel's point on gunboats you would probably need to have reserve spots for 6-12 of those as well for a patrol to dock. Another consideration is that in a engagement, the escort carrier would want to be able to dump its entire combat force very quickly since it is in no way a heavy combatant in terms of firepower. Also speedy recovery seems like a major criteria as well given that the ship may need to be the last vessel in an engagement while the convoy jumps and then speedily make a retreat itself. This may mean squads of ties coming out of the hanger in batches of 6 -12 at a time.

I would think an escort carrier in a convoy escort/customs role would probably have the following
72 ties (fighter/interceptor type mix)
6+ slots for gunboats/blastboats used or unused depending on rotation
2 - 6 spots for shuttles
at least 2 assault transports and maybe a dozen storm trooper transports
some level of tugs/service craft

some significant main hangar space reserved for small transports < 100m, captured vessels, mission specific craft maybe even a corvette or gunship

[fractalsponge1]

I'm not going to do a full internal configuration, but here's a scaling shot, plus flank detail updates.





My working assumption for internal configuration and usage is that the front main portal is split - one side has 2x levels of TIE rackmount, and the other ~1/3 of the bay by width handles launches and recovery of lambda-sized shuttles. Basically most of the front 1/2 of the ship is dedicated to hangars, or workshops and barracks for crew. Within this range, the bottom hangar is full length and width, roughly. This main bay would have access via the main port forward, two flank ports (can be configured to launch TIEs, with recovery via front port), and a ventral access that can handle another set of TIE launch positions. Above the main hangar is a storage deck (behind the front detail above the main port) with elevator access to the main hangar - space up here can be used for auxiliary craft smaller than a lambda, but basically anything goes.

Key:
Blue = 36 TIE/ln and Blue/green = 36 TIE/I in 2 levels of rackmount. Green = 4x Lambda. This alone is the published complement of the ship.

For additional scale, light green = 12 StarWing, Yellow = Skipray (landed), and red = stormtrooper transport. All of what is shown (which doesn't fully use floor area of the storage area) fits into the forward third of the ship. Middle third internal volume is still totally open.

[Abacus]

Fractal, you should try doing something like this: I saw it and laughed, then cried, then laughed some more.

[Eternal_Freedom]

Fractal, you should try doing something like this: I saw it and laughed, then cried, then laughed some more.

What in the name of Satan's left testicle is that supposed to be?

[fractalsponge1]

Fractal, you should try doing something like this: I saw it and laughed, then cried, then laughed some more.

What in the name of Satan's left testicle is that supposed to be?

Probably Satan's right testicle.

[Weedle McHairybug]

Fractal, you should try doing something like this: I saw it and laughed, then cried, then laughed some more.

What in the name of Satan's left testicle is that supposed to be?

A Star Dreadnought of some kind? Probably even a Star Destroyer carrier or the Star Dreadnought equivalent of the Conqueror/Twilight? Either way, that ship's certainly going to eclipse even the Executor-class in every size category.

Think you can give a link to the specific artstation this was on?

[fractalsponge1]

[Rhadamantus]

Fractal, you should try doing something like this: I saw it and laughed, then cried, then laughed some more.

What in the name of Satan's left testicle is that supposed to be?

A Star Dreadnought of some kind? Probably even a Star Destroyer carrier or the Star Dreadnought equivalent of the Conqueror/Twilight? Either way, that ship's certainly going to eclipse even the Executor-class in every size category.

Think you can give a link to the specific artstation this was on?

Are those ISDs?

[Weedle McHairybug]

What in the name of Satan's left testicle is that supposed to be?

A Star Dreadnought of some kind? Probably even a Star Destroyer carrier or the Star Dreadnought equivalent of the Conqueror/Twilight? Either way, that ship's certainly going to eclipse even the Executor-class in every size category.

Think you can give a link to the specific artstation this was on?

Are those ISDs?

Either that or VSDs or even Allegiance-class battlecruisers. Either way, that's one big ship to dwarf and presumably launch several waves of them.

[Rhadamantus]

A Star Dreadnought of some kind? Probably even a Star Destroyer carrier or the Star Dreadnought equivalent of the Conqueror/Twilight? Either way, that ship's certainly going to eclipse even the Executor-class in every size category.

Think you can give a link to the specific artstation this was on?

Are those ISDs?

Either that or VSDs or even Allegiance-class battlecruisers. Either way, that's one big ship to dwarf and presumably launch several waves of them.

Holy fuck, that's big.

[Shroom Man 777]

While the shaping of it is pretty cool... the sheer wankness of it is freaking lame. That's some Independence Day 2 shit. There might as well be a giant kaiju-sized Palpatine or Vader out chasing Jedi Master Jeff Goldblum or something. With Senator Bill Pullman making an EPIC SPEECH.

[Geforce]

i think its time for a golan station

[Abacus]

That big-o-fuck-you ship is in fact launching ISDs. I did some calculating (thank you MSPaint) and figured that it is literally 50 ISDs long -- making it, at minimum, 80,000m long.

[Eternal_Freedom]

That big-o-fuck-you ship is in fact launching ISDs. I did some calculating (thank you MSPaint) and figured that it is literally 50 ISDs long -- making it, at minimum, 80,000m long.

Jeez...also, it's a shitty design in that case, given how little volume there is immediately behidn the ISD "hangers." Surely putting them further back would be a lot more sensible?

Also, if that is a superlaser mount, why have the giant ball when (legends at least) showed you don't need that on the Eclipse? Given how big this fucking thing is it should be able to fit a big enough reactor in that hull.