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 Post subject: Re: Something big PostPosted: 2009-11-04 11:58pm
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fractalsponge1 wrote:
Mm, for a repulsortank? I don't think it quite works the same way as a Leopard 2 with a dozer blade... Why wouldn't it just fly over the obstacle, or vaporize it with laser fire? If it couldn't do either, you're probably not using it right. No one thinks its a great idea to operate large MBTs in dense rainforests or swampland, right?

Which sort of brings up a question: where do you draw the line between aircraft and repulsor-equipped star wars "ground" vehicles? Are there altitude limits for most vehicles besides, say, high atmosphere? After all, commercial vehicles could keep themselves aloft over canyon-like Coruscant terrain just fine.


If you are having this vehicle fly around and just descend close enough to the ground to deploy the troops before immediately taking off again, I suppose there really is no issue. However, if you intend for it to be used as ground support near troops on the ground, there is always a chance that something can snag on those protrusions, be it cables or whatnot.

I was thinking you could have those side-mounted weapons in some sort of armored housing from which they could pop out when needed but could be otherwise retracted and protected. Of course, that adds more complication with internal space used up for the mechanisms and such, not to mention having to model all that!



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 Post subject: Re: Something big PostPosted: 2009-11-05 12:01am
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fractalsponge1 wrote:
Which sort of brings up a question: where do you draw the line between aircraft and repulsor-equipped star wars "ground" vehicles? Are there altitude limits for most vehicles besides, say, high atmosphere? After all, commercial vehicles could keep themselves aloft over canyon-like Coruscant terrain just fine.


I was always under the impression that there were two main types of speeder, Airspeeders and Landspeeders, the former having a much higher flight ceiling than the latter and generally (but as coruscant showed us clearly not always) enclosed, maybe even pressurized cabins.

still, an entirely Repulsor driven military vehicle is, imo, ill advised, there should be at least one secondary drive system of the wheel, tread or even leg variety for operation in environments like say Jabiim or to pass through gungan like shields (though such conditions may be extremely rare) as well as Magnapulse weapons, which as I understand it can disable repulsorlift driven vehicles.

it does beg the question of how vehicles and troops were deployed and more importantly retrieved from Jabiim if the environment screwed up repulsorlifs.

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 Post subject: Re: Something big PostPosted: 2009-11-05 06:45pm
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JointStrikeFighter wrote:
The ability to operate from cover and concealment might be important to a tank.


Well, yes, but I mean you generally won't be deliberately driving into obstacles you don't expect to be able to knock down (and given SW construction, that really might not be very much). And really close support might be better delegated to a much smaller vehicle anyway. If this can fit where an AT-TE can fit, I'll be happy.

(Of course, I might just decide to be obtuse and keep it the way it is because it looks good :P).

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I was thinking you could have those side-mounted weapons in some sort of armored housing from which they could pop out when needed but could be otherwise retracted and protected. Of course, that adds more complication with internal space used up for the mechanisms and such, not to mention having to model all that!


Modeling is trivial, better it look good and make sense than be easy to do.



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 Post subject: Re: Something big PostPosted: 2009-11-07 06:23am
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I like the tank just like he made it. In case anyone forgot, there was the XR-85 tank droid that the Imperials made that had laser turrets and such on the side of it. You also have to remember that if the tank is as big as from what I am thinking, and its going to be as well armored and armed as I imagine, then being sneaky really isn't going to be an issue. I think if an Imperial commander were going to use these type of tanks that fractal made, then subtlety is way past his concerns. Just like how you don't use an AT-AT if you're trying to achieve surprise...



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 Post subject: Re: Something big PostPosted: 2009-11-13 04:24pm
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I haven't been online as much as I would have liked to, Fractalsponge, but I just want to add excellent work and that I am looking forward to seeing the final tweaks on the Dreadnought. :D



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