Formless wrote:Darkevilme already did so. I can also vouch from interacting with Sorchus IRL that he's seriously pissed right now over pretty much everything. So, uh, yeah.
Yeah, so? Simon made his ruling. In the worst case the post will be made non-canon. What's your point, again?
For the record, my view is that the post should stand in a state of ambiguous-canon until everyone's made up their minds what to think of it.
Anyone whose nation's interests are actually inconvenienced
by the proposed ending created by Fin, Siege, and Shroom is welcome, nay, encouraged
to air their objections and try to seek a mutually acceptable resolution.
Aside from that I would prefer to stay out of the fray for now.
Formless wrote:Let me tell you something: I still don't give a flying fuck, and I can and will call in the moderators (the REAL ones, you know, Thanas or Lagmonster) if you do not stop with this ad hominim bullshit every time someone new to the game or low on story posts criticizes you. DEAL WITH THE FUCKING CRITICISM, OR STFU. Your attitudes stink like dog turds, and are not acceptable just because this is one of the less than serious forums. And yes, there are answers to my criticisms. Neither of you have even bothered.
Formless, what this boils down to is that you dislike the way the game is played by others. Now, yes
Fin has a bad attitude about this, but other people whose attitudes are far less bad are basically all right with what he is doing.
You, on the other hand, are charging around with a massive raging chip on your shoulder. Not only do you personally
dislike something that has happened in the game, but you seem to think that your personal dislike grants you special power to demand a reckoning from the people who want it to happen. And you won't take their responses for an answer- you've already had this addressed by Shroomy, by me, by Siege, and you just don't seem to care.
If you really want to bring in a real mod, I'll see what I can do. Steve might be interested in the way you're behaving, although I suspect he'll be more annoyed by your temper tantrum than he is by the Sasha thing.
Its also inappropriate from a game context for the following reason. I was strongly suggested to use the OOC thread a little before posting in the story thread. To get a feel for the game and the people playing it. To discuss the game in good faith, as I had even before joining the game.
So far? Unimpressed. You two are the biggest dickwads in this game, routinely post here in bad faith, and I think its time someone told you that. Bullshit like this is as stupid as saying that a film critic needs to have directed two successful films before they can be taken seriously, or that a book critic needs to have at least one trilogy published under their name before they deserve to be read. Worse, even, because this is an interactive story and your attitude is the single biggest obstacle to participating.
Formless, I cannot for the life of me understand how anything anyone else has done stops you from posting anything.
As to the OOC thread, I was willing to take your criticisms seriously- I did. What I am not
willing to do is cower in fear of your ludicrous temper tantrum. Why are you so indignant about an event which does not involve your nation, which does not threaten your nation, which does not interfere with a single damn thing you wrote or plan to write in any way?
Do you actually have any coherent purpose in posting these remarks in OOC other than trying to garner attention for yourself?
And no, I'm not saying this because you're "that guy." I'm saying this because what you're doing is stupid- whether you've done it before or not is immaterial.
And if I hear any more whining about how I'm being "That Guy" or assinine shit like that, you can fuck off or take it to the moderators. Again, the real moderators. Not Simon or RougeIce. Thanas or Lagmonster, or whomever you think will care that actually has power on this board.
While we're looking for real moderators of this forum... I wonder what Shep would think of this? He is, you will note, empowered to moderate this forum.
Formless wrote:I was also thinking of some of the stuff Darkevilme posted too, but this looked more pressing because of the bad precedent it appeared to create. I'm sorry for not reading more carefully with regards to certain recent posts establishing Sasha's ascension to true godhood, but bear in mind its been busy this week and I haven't been able to keep up with everything that has been posted here.
Then why didn't you wait and start shouting about how bad the plot was after
you'd read what was happening?
That said, I think in a game that was supposed to be rules lite trying to bend the rules to your favor is a lesser problem to trying to railroad the story.
Trying to gain advantages by manipulating the rules is a big no-no in a situation like this. It annoys the people who wrote the rules, it annoys the people trying to keep people following the rules, and it annoys the people who want a rules-light game
by forcing them to pay more attention than they'd like to juggling the numbers associated with the rules. It is, in short, poor sportsmanship.
In my mind, the MEH stomp from the beginning was always going to end more in the spirit of (the military-political equivalent to) Stealth Fail than what it has become just due to the sheer number of people involved with conflicting agendas.
Yes, and your expectations would make more difference if you were involved in the MEH war in any way, which you're not. As such, you don't have a right to expect it to turn out the way you wanted.
The logical response, of course, is to give time
for things to happen. No resolution to the MEH war could occur without at least some people making posts that involve major events happening, without directly involving all the people who might be affected by those events. But instead, before waiting to see what would happen or how the other players reacted to Siege and Fin and Shroom's idea, you started jumping up and down and screaming about how it's impossible because Sasha isn't psychic.
Which makes you look foolish and short-tempered at best. You are not an injured party here, your right to demand that people appease your sensibilities isn't all that strong.
Shroom Man 777 wrote:Pray tell, how would that interest K-Zone powers in anyway in game?
For starters, the Byzantines get to have their genocide when everyone else wanted a relatively civilized war. The Bragulans get the same, and they get their Inhumanist League, and they get to say "technically, we didn't do the nuking *smug*". Meanwhile the human coalition (especially the Centralists) and even members of your own coalition get the shaft. I'm not trying to be a dick here, I'm just saying. You guys got exactly what you wanted, simply by managing to post it first.
No, they also got it by writing themselves
with a more carefully, thoroughly organized war effort that allowed them to seize one MEH system (Xena) at the same time the humans were attacking two others (Wolf 359 and Alpha Centauri)... and then move on to the fourth and final system and get there somewhat ahead of the human fleet, thus allowing them
to set the tone of the war in that system.
Shroomy and Darkevilme were writing joint Chamarran-Bragulan exercises in preparation for this operation months ago. Fin was writing posts describing his nation's schemes and plots weeks ago. The fact that you didn't see this coming doesn't mean the evidence wasn't there.
Now yes, there are plenty of nations out there who, if the current "Downfall" post stands, don't get what they want. No possible resolution to the war could give everyone what they want
, as you yourself have noticed. This resolution, while not giving everyone what they want, is at least interesting, and is built up by weeks and months of foreshadowing.
So unless you actually have a better idea, instead of just endless mountains of bitching about the existing idea, I don't see why we shouldn't proceed with the idea we've got. Maybe modify it around the edges, or come up with a creative solution agreed upon by more of the involved parties- but still proceed with the idea we've got.
...and you did not even try to work this out with those players. You just posted out of impatience and betrayed every ally you have. Do keep in mind you are outnumbered, and they now have every reason to start shooting Bragulans and Byzantines alike (both in space and on the ground), should they so choose to do so.
How do you know the underlined passage is true? Sure, you
weren't consulted, but then, you had nothing at stake in this to begin with.
If any injured parties feel a burning need to complain, they are welcome to do so. Beowulf has already figured out a way to react to the situation. Darkevilme, Force Lord, and other offended nations who don't get what they want out of this resolution are perfectly capable of speaking for themselves if they want to. Who named you