Re: SDN World 3 Commentary Thread I
Posted: 2009-12-10 08:50pm
I'm looking to get rid of my Char B1s by 1929-1930. New tanks in development at the moment.
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I'm so telling Stas you called one of his Socialist Brothers an imperialist state.Ryan Thunder wrote:More important things? Whatever could be more important than an island inside my economic exclusion zone that harbours a large warfleet for an imperialist power?Steve wrote:Huh? Why would the Dutch having a naval station in their Caribbean territories cause any concern from a Colombia that has more important things to worry about?
Furthermore, I didn't realize I had to specify that tiny little islands inside my economic exclusion zone were sovereign Colombian territory, nor that they could be claimed by foreign powers for the purposes of establishing large naval bases on my fucking doorstep.
The size of the fleet aside I will go with this: Unless someone claim it specifically I think we are all operating under the assumption that historic colonies retain the historic European masters. Thus most of the islands in the Caribbean would belong to a European power unless it is specifically stated otherwise. Thus Bean and I had to figure a buyout plan for the BVI and I waged a brief war against the French for Antigua while also helping Spain against the US in 1898 so as to gain Puerto Rico and the USVI.Steve wrote:I'm so telling Stas you called one of his Socialist Brothers an imperialist state.Ryan Thunder wrote:More important things? Whatever could be more important than an island inside my economic exclusion zone that harbours a large warfleet for an imperialist power?Steve wrote:Huh? Why would the Dutch having a naval station in their Caribbean territories cause any concern from a Colombia that has more important things to worry about?
Furthermore, I didn't realize I had to specify that tiny little islands inside my economic exclusion zone were sovereign Colombian territory, nor that they could be claimed by foreign powers for the purposes of establishing large naval bases on my fucking doorstep.
And, seriously, 15 destroyers, 5 cruisers, and 2 armored cruisers are a "large warfleet"? And Karmic's fleet's pretty old anyway.
Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:So.. can we post anything on the IC thread?
As far as I know, the Char B1s were basically mid-1920s technology. They just took forever to develop. They're not necessarily bad tanks though, which makes me wonder why Fin wants to unload his instead of converting them to SP howitzers or something.Norade wrote:Thing is with the Char, was there any tech gap precluding them being built or was it all political?
If they didn't want to be called Imperialist, they shouldn't have taken colonies halfway around the world. And stationed fleets at them.Steve wrote:I'm so telling Stas you called one of his Socialist Brothers an imperialist state.
Then I wouldn't have had any trouble knocking it over, now, would I? All the less reason for it to be there in the first place.And, seriously, 15 destroyers, 5 cruisers, and 2 armored cruisers are a "large warfleet"? And Karmic's fleet's pretty old anyway.
Don't be obtuse. Obviously I was not operating under that assumption, because if I had been, I would've claimed it from the get go. Trinidad and Tobago have been separate countries from Venezuela for quite some time, so I claimed them separately. I did not expect to have a foreign naval base 300 km from my capital because I assumed that a speck of land inside my economic exclusion zone was as good as mine.CmdrWilkens wrote:The size of the fleet aside I will go with this: Unless someone claim it specifically I think we are all operating under the assumption that historic colonies retain the historic European masters. Thus most of the islands in the Caribbean would belong to a European power unless it is specifically stated otherwise. Thus Bean and I had to figure a buyout plan for the BVI and I waged a brief war against the French for Antigua while also helping Spain against the US in 1898 so as to gain Puerto Rico and the USVI.
In other words to Ryan if it was a European colony and you didn't specifically claim it then it ain't yours.