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Re: SDN World 3 Commentary Thread I

Posted: 2009-12-10 08:50pm
by Fingolfin_Noldor
I'm looking to get rid of my Char B1s by 1929-1930. New tanks in development at the moment.

Re: SDN World 3 Commentary Thread I

Posted: 2009-12-10 09:01pm
by Norade
Thing is with the Char, was there any tech gap precluding them being built or was it all political?

Re: SDN World 3 Commentary Thread I

Posted: 2009-12-10 09:04pm
by Steve
Ryan Thunder wrote:
Steve wrote:Huh? Why would the Dutch having a naval station in their Caribbean territories cause any concern from a Colombia that has more important things to worry about?
More important things? Whatever could be more important than an island inside my economic exclusion zone that harbours a large warfleet for an imperialist power?

Furthermore, I didn't realize I had to specify that tiny little islands inside my economic exclusion zone were sovereign Colombian territory, nor that they could be claimed by foreign powers for the purposes of establishing large naval bases on my fucking doorstep. :)
I'm so telling Stas you called one of his Socialist Brothers an imperialist state. :mrgreen:

And, seriously, 15 destroyers, 5 cruisers, and 2 armored cruisers are a "large warfleet"? And Karmic's fleet's pretty old anyway.

Re: SDN World 3 Commentary Thread I

Posted: 2009-12-10 09:20pm
by CmdrWilkens
Steve wrote:
Ryan Thunder wrote:
Steve wrote:Huh? Why would the Dutch having a naval station in their Caribbean territories cause any concern from a Colombia that has more important things to worry about?
More important things? Whatever could be more important than an island inside my economic exclusion zone that harbours a large warfleet for an imperialist power?

Furthermore, I didn't realize I had to specify that tiny little islands inside my economic exclusion zone were sovereign Colombian territory, nor that they could be claimed by foreign powers for the purposes of establishing large naval bases on my fucking doorstep. :)
I'm so telling Stas you called one of his Socialist Brothers an imperialist state. :mrgreen:

And, seriously, 15 destroyers, 5 cruisers, and 2 armored cruisers are a "large warfleet"? And Karmic's fleet's pretty old anyway.
The size of the fleet aside I will go with this: Unless someone claim it specifically I think we are all operating under the assumption that historic colonies retain the historic European masters. Thus most of the islands in the Caribbean would belong to a European power unless it is specifically stated otherwise. Thus Bean and I had to figure a buyout plan for the BVI and I waged a brief war against the French for Antigua while also helping Spain against the US in 1898 so as to gain Puerto Rico and the USVI.

In other words to Ryan if it was a European colony and you didn't specifically claim it then it ain't yours.

Re: SDN World 3 Commentary Thread I

Posted: 2009-12-10 10:14pm
by Fingolfin_Noldor
So.. can we post anything on the IC thread?

Re: SDN World 3 Commentary Thread I

Posted: 2009-12-10 10:17pm
by Lonestar
Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:So.. can we post anything on the IC thread?

Indeed. The Glorious Crusade against Communism is a-foot!

Re: SDN World 3 Commentary Thread I

Posted: 2009-12-10 10:22pm
by K. A. Pital
You need to find someone to control the Soviet Union though, before you do stuff.

Re: SDN World 3 Commentary Thread I

Posted: 2009-12-10 10:27pm
by Steve
So you're fully out then?

*sigh*

Sorry to hear that, you'll be missed.

Re: SDN World 3 Commentary Thread I

Posted: 2009-12-10 10:35pm
by K. A. Pital
I have a very busy 3 weeks of work ahead of me. I'm not sure that I'll be able to participate in the game well enough, and I'm not sure I'll be able to return afterwards either.

Re: SDN World 3 Commentary Thread I

Posted: 2009-12-10 10:37pm
by Czechmate
Norade wrote:Thing is with the Char, was there any tech gap precluding them being built or was it all political?
As far as I know, the Char B1s were basically mid-1920s technology. They just took forever to develop. They're not necessarily bad tanks though, which makes me wonder why Fin wants to unload his instead of converting them to SP howitzers or something. ;)

Re: SDN World 3 Commentary Thread I

Posted: 2009-12-11 12:00am
by Ryan Thunder
Steve wrote:I'm so telling Stas you called one of his Socialist Brothers an imperialist state. :mrgreen:
If they didn't want to be called Imperialist, they shouldn't have taken colonies halfway around the world. And stationed fleets at them.
And, seriously, 15 destroyers, 5 cruisers, and 2 armored cruisers are a "large warfleet"? And Karmic's fleet's pretty old anyway.
Then I wouldn't have had any trouble knocking it over, now, would I? All the less reason for it to be there in the first place.

Plus, if its a good harbour, I'd have wanted it for my own fleets in the area.
CmdrWilkens wrote:The size of the fleet aside I will go with this: Unless someone claim it specifically I think we are all operating under the assumption that historic colonies retain the historic European masters. Thus most of the islands in the Caribbean would belong to a European power unless it is specifically stated otherwise. Thus Bean and I had to figure a buyout plan for the BVI and I waged a brief war against the French for Antigua while also helping Spain against the US in 1898 so as to gain Puerto Rico and the USVI.

In other words to Ryan if it was a European colony and you didn't specifically claim it then it ain't yours.
Don't be obtuse. Obviously I was not operating under that assumption, because if I had been, I would've claimed it from the get go. Trinidad and Tobago have been separate countries from Venezuela for quite some time, so I claimed them separately. I did not expect to have a foreign naval base 300 km from my capital because I assumed that a speck of land inside my economic exclusion zone was as good as mine.

Re: SDN World 3 Commentary Thread I

Posted: 2009-12-11 12:56am
by Agent Sorchus
Okay I have Corps level locations up on my Oob, I might be adding some more details soon. In the meantime I am working on a map.

Re: SDN World 3 Commentary Thread I

Posted: 2009-12-11 01:17am
by Czechmate
Updated my OOB some. Still need to post a Q3 build with mobilization IBP factored in.

Currently wrestling with Google Earth to create maps of troop dispositions.

I don't plan to be unfairly secretive.

Re: SDN World 3 Commentary Thread I

Posted: 2009-12-11 01:22am
by CmdrWilkens
Can I recommend for clairty sake we go to Comment Thread II. We switched pretty regularly the last game so it just seems odd to be at 55+

Re: SDN World 3 Commentary Thread I

Posted: 2009-12-11 01:28am
by Steve
Heh, I'm still used to Bean doing this. :oops: :mrgreen:

*slams Modnir upon thread, locking it forever*