20 k division from China? Hey, you're copping out, right? That's 180 k troops in 9 divisions. Should I just grant you them all suddenly arriving at the salient? I'm calling for mod judgement on that.
End of story.
Draw where your divisions are, or at least say which drawing of mine is more or less correct. As for me having to march over to Hailar again, well, them's the cards - I never thought you'd be cheating by using overstrength allied units.
Beowulf wrote:The 5 divisions (and two brigades(3 cavalry and 2 rifle divisions+ tank brigades)) you have actually assaulting Hailar would be enough to actually enter the city.
I've only started shelling it and the cavalry, infantry and tanks started moving into the rubble when you decided to strike against my supply lines. Perhaps you should've waited longer for the attack, nes pa?
Beowulf wrote:What's worse, the forces you have on the south side of the river don't even match the 40k troops you'd specified earlier. You're around 10k troops short. You'd need at least twice the force to actually enter the city
Because you're magicking troops out of thin air, I know. I can't run a war when you've basically created a 500 000 man strong group in what, fifteen days since you've started actually moving forces? That requires at the very least a month, running a division into the fray each coming day. Moreover, you're moving troops from China, not even your own - logistic difficulties X2.
Beowulf wrote:Heck, even twice as many only gets you to a 2:3 disadvantage in troops at Hailar. Some of the defenders are spread out a bit outside the city, to avoid a Soviet attempt to outflank them.
Well, then I guess the storming of Hailar fails and I'll have to try again - that is all.
Beowulf wrote:That it's easy to turn around a large force to then go back the way it came.
I never said that's easy. I said that's flat out impossible to do, and that's why I didn't accept the "evacuate troops" offer because it made no sense. I merely noted that the intensity of attack is nowhere close for a decisive superiority in density; you're attacking a front which is defended roughly by the same density of troops with mainly infantry units.
Beowulf wrote:This is in contrast to the defenders of Hailar, who have been warned that the Soviets may attempt a retreat in order to protect their supply lines.
Yeah, yeah - you're keeping perfect communications with your troops everywhere at every possible time. I know. You haven't even drawn just where are your railroads. An assault which leaves Hailar shelled by heavy artillery will result in major disruptions.
Beowulf wrote:It'll probably be on the order of two days before you can successfully move the bulk of your forces to the attack.
The supply lines have a density of 6-7 km per division, and nearby divisions can easily concentrate that to 2-3 km per division at the points where protection is needed.
Beowulf wrote:The northern force is a Corps, and as such includes corps artillery, adding an extra 5k men
Well if we go that way, probably my forces also have extra 5000 men per every 3 or 4 divisions. Given there's like, 22 divisions, that's another 20 000 to 35 000 men. Two can play at this game, Beowulf.
Beowulf wrote:That said, the two Manchurian Corps attacked the southern portion of the Soviet salient, as corps, with the six Chinese divisions attacking as three corps at the northern portion, recapturing Line Yat.
You're attacking at the border breach? You'll face all the breach divisions plus all the reinforcements. No way in hell for that to succeed.
Beowulf wrote:Thus, your reinforcement divisions would be on the wrong side of the river when they managed to get into position to counter attack.
What a load of bullshit. The reinforcements are constantly arriving and streaming down the supply lines to participate in widening the offensive. Therefore, they would be trickling down the channel formed by the Soviet divisions moved into Manchuria, and quite certainly some of them would be on the right side of the river.
Beowulf wrote:IT did however achieve a vital objective: you now have to march all those troops back down to Hailar, and that will take additional days, especially since you've now got to have troops both advancing and retreating along the same line (yay more confusion!).
I see. There's no way you'd be sensible about anything, so I'm quitting the game.
Sayonara.