SDN World 3 Country Claiming

[Thanas]

Hey Thanas, how'd your Germany look like? What are the prospects of it being, um, Mother Russia-friendly?

Pretty high, actually. I am envisioning Frederick III being kaiser much longer than he was in reality, thereby resulting in far more cordial relations with Russia and Britain than in reality (For example, the Rückversicherungsvertrag with Russia would have been renewed other than being cancelled in the 1890s.)

PM me if you want to know more.

[Thanas]

I really love it how Ryan just claimed all of those territories.

All four little ones, one of which is totally inconsequential.

Also, do note that I claimed it before you had even posted in the thread.

I did mention the possibility of me playing Spain in the timeline thread though.

We can work something out if it bugs you enough.

Somehow I doubt you'd just hand over a large part of Central America.

[Steve]

Central America? He just has Panama, and he snatched that after his initial claim.

Also, I'm not going to simply side with one person over the other on the basis of who posted first.

[Ryan Thunder]

Somehow I doubt you'd just hand over a large part of Central America.

I said "work something out," as opposed to "meekly hand you whatever you desire."

And as Steve said, I just have Panama. The rest is up for grabs, as I understand it.

EDIT: Well, Panama, as well as Trinidad and Tobago. But they barely even show up on that map.

Central America? He just has Panama, and he snatched that after his initial claim.

Also, I'm not going to simply side with one person over the other on the basis of who posted first.

What was that about "first come first serve", now?

[Siege]

The coast up to Benghazi would be perfectly acceptable, and would work fine with the set up of my Empire.

Excellent. I guess that's settled then .

Would the USSCC be willing to allow states of hostile ideology to the Egyptian Sultanate use of the canal?

That would depend entirely on the ideology in question, I'd think. Generally speaking though I don't intend to deny access over anything but the most serious of reasons; you'd probably have to be actively hostile for this to happen.

[Beowulf]

Why is Beowulf claiming territories that belong to MOTHER RUSSIA?

I claim the USSR in it's real life 1925 borders. Let's see the dawn of Crimson Star!

Because the vast majority of what I'm claiming didn't belong to mother Russia for very long at that point, but were instead owned by China? I'm sorta assuming alot of the unequal treaties don't occur. Same as Bluewolf.

[Steve]

What was that about "first come first serve", now?

That was something Czech brought up, but I decided it was unfair since it basically favored those who were online when the thread started. I believe I even said in the first post that we'd post claims and then sort them.

[Ryan Thunder]

Very well.

Nevertheless, I have very good reasons for having control of that region. Turning it into a European colony when its right on the doorstep of a native power would be... well, suffice it to say that things could get ugly for said colony very rapidly.

It's not like Europe needs it in order to be relevant, anyway, whereas my country would be largely irrelevant without it.

[CmdrWilkens]

Well I thought long and hard about maybe establishing a Boer Empire out of South Africa but instead I am going to claim Mexico at the territorial extent of the First Mexican Empire minus those portion of California, New Mexico, and Texas claimed by others. In turn I am laying claim to Hispaniola, Puerto Rico, and the Virgin Islands though I am amenable to surrendering some of those claims if Thanas does attempt to reconstitute the Spanish Empire.

[Shroom Man 777]

Thanas my California (and other bits, Steve and I agreed on, including bits of Nevada, Baha, Arizona, etc.) will be a Greater Barony ruled by the Germanic family of House Von Reagan, who were exiled and driven from their Bavarian homeland as consequences of the 30 Years War and because the original Baron von Reagan spurned the advance of some Kaiser's wife who wanted him to be a male concubine. Exiled, they fled with the aid of the Spaniards who set them up comfortably in Mexico (which then owned California).

During the Mexican-Messamerican War (:P) the Von Reagans sided with Cascadia and thus earned a chunk of California and the other states, while Cascadia got a bit of North Calif up to San Francisco.

So, Herr Thanas, how would Von Reaganite-Germanian/Prussian relations work?

[Thanas]

Alright, I give up all claims to the Spanish Empire as I will be playing Germany.

I do however claim the following:
- Austria
- Slowenia (most importantly, Trieste)
- Upper Italy, including Venice, Turin etc up until the Pisa-Florence-Rimini Line

I might still claim mainland Spain and Cuba, depending on the final rules. But this is unlikely atm and will probably not come to pass. I shall however notify everyone that in the next STGOD, I'll take the Spanish Empire.

[K. A. Pital]

Because the vast majority of what I'm claiming didn't belong to mother Russia for very long at that point, but were instead owned by China? I'm sorta assuming alot of the unequal treaties don't occur. Same as Bluewolf.

You mean the unequal Russian-Chinese treaties? Well, that's your choice to have a claim on those lands. Be aware there is a counterclaim, that's all. If your claim is upheld, there will be counterfactual history behind it and it won't be a "let's be buddies with the Russkies" one. I see there are other claims on that land as well. The game will be fun.

[Fingolfin_Noldor]

Alright, I give up all claims to the Spanish Empire as I will be playing Germany.

I do however claim the following:
- Austria
- Slowenia (most importantly, Trieste)
- Upper Italy, including Venice, Turin etc up until the Pisa-Florence-Rimini Line

I might still claim mainland Spain and Cuba, depending on the final rules. But this is unlikely atm and will probably not come to pass. I shall however notify everyone that in the next STGOD, I'll take the Spanish Empire.

Well, this might make an interesting game with you on my border...

Who gets to role play the Pope?

[Thanas]

Germany has no interest in the Pope. He can go pound for all that Bismarck or the Kaiser cares.

[Karmic Knight]

Well, this might make an interesting game with you on my border...

Who gets to role play the Pope? :lol:

The Pope gets a nice NPC Papal State?

[Fingolfin_Noldor]

Well, this might make an interesting game with you on my border...

Who gets to role play the Pope?

The Pope gets a nice NPC Papal State?

I was thinking of that and discussed with Steve, but we can't think of anyone who might do a decent role play of him.

[MKSheppard]

Mike Wong?

[CmdrWilkens]

Thanas my California (and other bits, Steve and I agreed on, including bits of Nevada, Baha, Arizona, etc.) will be a Greater Barony ruled by the Germanic family of House Von Reagan, who were exiled and driven from their Bavarian homeland as consequences of the 30 Years War and because the original Baron von Reagan spurned the advance of some Kaiser's wife who wanted him to be a male concubine. Exiled, they fled with the aid of the Spaniards who set them up comfortably in Mexico (which then owned California).

During the Mexican-Messamerican War (:P) the Von Reagans sided with Cascadia and thus earned a chunk of California and the other states, while Cascadia got a bit of North Calif up to San Francisco.

So, Herr Thanas, how would Von Reaganite-Germanian/Prussian relations work?

Okay so just to make sure you are claiming all of California including Baja along with Neuvo Mexico right? I'm curious because I want to make sure I set my borders without infringing on other claims so this would leave me with Sonora, Neuva Vizcaya, Coahuila, and Santander as my northern border provinces.

If I'm not going to have Baja then I'm probably going to claim some additional territories in the Antilles.

[Fingolfin_Noldor]

Mike Wong?

Might as well suggest the Pope was an atheist...

[Lonestar]

So, me and Shep get the Indian Subcontinent(to include Burma) Aden/Oman, Sri Lanka, the Seychelles, the Chagos, Mauritius, and the Andaman and Nicobar Islands, to be divided up between us two.

[Thanas]

Well, this might make an interesting game with you on my border...

Who gets to role play the Pope?

The Pope gets a nice NPC Papal State?

I was thinking of that and discussed with Steve, but we can't think of anyone who might do a decent role play of him.

Is the pope that important? I mean, TBE and TGE probably both signed a treaty of mutual non-inteference, right?

[Steve]

Well, I had in mind giving Sonora to Shroom as well (in the original NA map Czech's South had it). Of course, the Mexican Empire could very well also control Guatemala, El Salvador, and Honduras at minimum.

Hrm, if we go with the approach that Mexico was able to lay claim to Spanish-held islands in the Caribbean, shall we give Mexico Cuba?

Basically, you'd lose Sonora and Baja but can make claims in Central America and the Caribbean. Maybe even talk to Bean about Belize.

[Raj Ahten]

Sorry for blatantly just asking, but has anyone else laid claim to Australia and nearby parts of Indonesia?

[Steve]

Sorry for blatantly just asking, but has anyone else laid claim to Australia and nearby parts of Indonesia?

Not for the moment, if Marina plays though that's where she'd have Kaetjhasti. Not sure she will be.

[Shroom Man 777]

Wilkens, uhh... my territory was decided by Steve, since I was just content to have him do all the thinking.

Goddamn, you're Mexico? Aw mang, this means I'll have to be careful and not be too much of a dick. But that's okay. Heh, guess you'll finally have your wish and get the Shrooms hanging out with you Messican dudes.