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SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread V

Posted: 2008-12-15 10:16pm
by Mr Bean
It's 3AM
Do you know where your Space based weapons are?
Have at it.

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread V

Posted: 2008-12-15 10:36pm
by TimothyC
I rely on Air-launched ASAT weapons.

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread V

Posted: 2008-12-16 12:25am
by Fingolfin_Noldor
Wow.. it's a game new year and I didn't notice it...

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread V

Posted: 2008-12-16 02:32am
by K. A. Pital
Cayman dudes get celebrating the fact that they pulled through those elections - in their corrupt asshole manner - but suddenly Karic kills them.

Hwoops.

The Crimson Star Republic special agents would've done it personally but why dirty your hands when a crime lord with a grudge is always there? ;) Not to mention a hefty bonus for Karic - allowing him to hide in the CSR for almost half a year :)

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread V

Posted: 2008-12-16 02:36am
by Steve
When you say "the government of the Caymans", who precisely did you have in mind? President and VP? The entire leading Cabinent (Save perhaps lesser posts)? Important legislative and party figures?

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread V

Posted: 2008-12-16 02:43am
by K. A. Pital
I thought it was about the President and some Party figures, since they are the elected. But then, it doesn't really matter which part of the Cayman government was offed - it will create a lot of chaos any way one looks at it :D

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread V

Posted: 2008-12-16 05:51am
by DarthShady
And...Stas makes one hell of a comeback. 8) :D

And so does Karic. :twisted:

Damn, I wish I had more time.

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread V

Posted: 2008-12-16 06:27am
by Siege
Man, Karic rocks. I wonder what he's up to.

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread V

Posted: 2008-12-16 06:28am
by Karmic Knight
DarthShady wrote:And...Stas makes one hell of a comeback. 8) :D

And so does Karic. :twisted:
That they do.
SiegeTank wrote:Certainly- what kind of aircraft were you thinking of though? Ralson Aerospace already manufactures the Rafale-M, though I guess there might be a market for a Super Etendard/A-5 Vigilante type of aircraft.
I believe so also.

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread V

Posted: 2008-12-16 07:11am
by PeZook
Fingolfin, dude, how much does the DSP-1 weigh and where do you want it to go?

P.S.

If Karic is up, the Ana will be, too :D

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread V

Posted: 2008-12-16 09:25am
by Fingolfin_Noldor
PeZook wrote:Fingolfin, dude, how much does the DSP-1 weigh and where do you want it to go?

P.S.

If Karic is up, the Ana will be, too :D
The probe I'm launching from Jerusalem heads for Mars. The one from Wilkonia goes to Venus.

I need a Delta II type launcher.

EDIT: BTW Wilkens, you can go launch the other probe too.

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread V

Posted: 2008-12-16 10:08am
by PeZook
Cool. We can easily launch it with an 11K59, it's in the same capability range as the Delta II.

Story post ahoy!

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread V

Posted: 2008-12-16 11:31am
by Ryan Thunder
By the way folks, Miratia is developing an extremely large rocket artillery/air defense platform that's pretty much a land-going battleship, designed to defend larger areas of Miratian territory from air and ground attack. This is necessary because of the fact that I have fewer than 15,000 soldiers trying to manage an area the size of Quebec.

Now, I realize that may strain credulity with some of you but well... I need it. :P

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread V

Posted: 2008-12-16 11:45am
by Fingolfin_Noldor
Ryan Thunder wrote:By the way folks, Miratia is developing an extremely large rocket artillery/air defense platform that's pretty much a land-going battleship, designed to defend larger areas of Miratian territory from air and ground attack. This is necessary because of the fact that I have fewer than 15,000 soldiers trying to manage an area the size of Quebec.

Now, I realize that may strain credulity with some of you but well... I need it. :P
ER... might I recommend you ... instead use an extensive bunker system instead? That big juicy target is just ripe for suborbital nuke bombardment.

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread V

Posted: 2008-12-16 11:55am
by Ryan Thunder
Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:
Ryan Thunder wrote:By the way folks, Miratia is developing an extremely large rocket artillery/air defense platform that's pretty much a land-going battleship, designed to defend larger areas of Miratian territory from air and ground attack. This is necessary because of the fact that I have fewer than 15,000 soldiers trying to manage an area the size of Quebec.

Now, I realize that may strain credulity with some of you but well... I need it. :P
ER... might I recommend you ... use an extensive bunker system instead?
But that's so boringly typical. :P

It's more relocateable than mobile, anyways. It would sit in place for years at a time and probably never be much more vulnerable than a shallow bunker. Built-in radar, point-defense, intermediate range anti-aircraft, anti-tank, and anti-personnel missiles, mine-deploying missiles, etc. With extended radar support, it could engage targets the instant they cross the border from the other end of the country.

Oh, and yes, it will be able to engage multiple targets simultaneously.

Of course, I suppose that might be better invested in a smaller MRL platform for the missiles rather than a land battleship.

Oh, are cluster bombs illegal by any international law here?

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread V

Posted: 2008-12-16 12:05pm
by Fingolfin_Noldor
Ryan Thunder wrote:
Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:
Ryan Thunder wrote:By the way folks, Miratia is developing an extremely large rocket artillery/air defense platform that's pretty much a land-going battleship, designed to defend larger areas of Miratian territory from air and ground attack. This is necessary because of the fact that I have fewer than 15,000 soldiers trying to manage an area the size of Quebec.

Now, I realize that may strain credulity with some of you but well... I need it. :P
ER... might I recommend you ... use an extensive bunker system instead?
But that's so boringly typical. :P

It's more relocateable than mobile, anyways. It would sit in place for years at a time and probably never be much more vulnerable than a shallow bunker. Built-in radar, point-defense, intermediate range anti-aircraft, anti-tank, and anti-personnel missiles, mine-deploying missiles, etc. With extended radar support, it could engage targets the instant they cross the border.

Oh, are cluster bombs illegal by any international law here?
You don't build bunkers shallow, you build them deep and hidden. Plus, such a large monstrosity is going to be huge. You can only traverse flat ground and not rocky ground or else you might topple over.

For one thing you are putting way too many eggs in a single basket, and if an enemy were smart enough and pinpointed the location of the said "land battleship", all he really needs to do is saturate you with lots of SRBM or IRBMs, of which I operate lots of Iskanders for the job of doing such things. Mind you, the SS-25-Iskander allows for course corrections via datalink and has evasive algorithms. If all else fails, there's always the option of a proximity fused nuke. Granted these Land Battleships of yours are going to be bloody expensive to build, the destruction of one will leave a huge hole in your defence.

Cluster bombs aren't banned. No one, except for a few saner countries, will sign it.

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread V

Posted: 2008-12-16 01:15pm
by Siege
So Miratia is building Bolos now? Err, hokay... Do you perchance need any Hellbores developed? ;)

PS: Wasn't Japanistan developing a similar sort of outrageous ubertank, before Skimmer dropped out?

PPS: As a whole though, I agree with Fingolfin. This idea sounds ridiculously impractical...

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread V

Posted: 2008-12-16 01:47pm
by CmdrWilkens
SiegeTank wrote:So Miratia is building Bolos now? Err, hokay... Do you perchance need any Hellbores developed? ;)

PS: Wasn't Japanistan developing a similar sort of outrageous ubertank, before Skimmer dropped out?

PPS: As a whole though, I agree with Fingolfin. This idea sounds ridiculously impractical...
-Yes he probably does but I know with our particle physics research the MESS will beat anybody else to it by a decade

-Kinda...which is why we already have weaons to negate them

-Oh hell yeah its impractical so Ryan go for it :D



Total aside...the Caymans are a wholly owned subsidiary of Wilkonia and the IRT...time to remind everybody of that. I hope Karic can get out of there fast because the Airports are getting sealed soon and I've got the Pacific's largest naval headquartered a day or so steaming away and just itching to find a good speedboat for target practice :).

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread V

Posted: 2008-12-16 05:27pm
by PeZook
That "land battleship" idea is horrible. For a small country, the idea should be to scatter and conceal lots of highly mobile, autonomous advanced air defence platforms all over the place. Right now, it's one nuke explosion over it to fry its radar and your entire defence grid goes down :D

And no, Skimmer wasn't building an insane Bolo. His were 100+ tonne highly survivable urban assault tanks.

@ Wilkens (on the lunar landers):

Actually, Coyote isn't building lunar landers, he's building 112 tonne translunar shuttles. We'll probably move with something like that for space infrastructure:

Step 1: Automatic unmanned landers

Step 2: Small short-duration, low-capacity landers like the american LEM

Step 3: Large, long endurance landers (like the Altair or LK-700)

Step 4: Orbital space station

Step 5: Semi-permanent lunar habitats (perhaps several linked landers)

Step 6: Permanent outpost

Step 7: Industry!

The eagles would ferry passengers and cargo from the outpost/habitat to the space station, saving us costs on lifting the spaceship's superstructure to orbit every single time

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread V

Posted: 2008-12-16 09:36pm
by Fingolfin_Noldor
PeZook wrote:That "land battleship" idea is horrible. For a small country, the idea should be to scatter and conceal lots of highly mobile, autonomous advanced air defence platforms all over the place. Right now, it's one nuke explosion over it to fry its radar and your entire defence grid goes down :D

And no, Skimmer wasn't building an insane Bolo. His were 100+ tonne highly survivable urban assault tanks.

@ Wilkens (on the lunar landers):

Actually, Coyote isn't building lunar landers, he's building 112 tonne translunar shuttles. We'll probably move with something like that for space infrastructure:

Step 1: Automatic unmanned landers

Step 2: Small short-duration, low-capacity landers like the american LEM

Step 3: Large, long endurance landers (like the Altair or LK-700)

Step 4: Orbital space station

Step 5: Semi-permanent lunar habitats (perhaps several linked landers)

Step 6: Permanent outpost

Step 7: Industry!

The eagles would ferry passengers and cargo from the outpost/habitat to the space station, saving us costs on lifting the spaceship's superstructure to orbit every single time
That will take well over 30-40 years. Especially the last two bits.

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread V

Posted: 2008-12-16 09:40pm
by Karmic Knight
PeZook wrote:That "land battleship" idea is horrible. For a small country, the idea should be to scatter and conceal lots of highly mobile, autonomous advanced air defence platforms all over the place. Right now, it's one nuke explosion over it to fry its radar and your entire defence grid goes down :D

And no, Skimmer wasn't building an insane Bolo. His were 100+ tonne highly survivable urban assault tanks.

@ Wilkens (on the lunar landers):

Actually, Coyote isn't building lunar landers, he's building 112 tonne translunar shuttles. We'll probably move with something like that for space infrastructure:

Step 1: Automatic unmanned landers

Step 2: Small short-duration, low-capacity landers like the american LEM

Step 3: Large, long endurance landers (like the Altair or LK-700)

Step 4: Orbital space station

Step 5: Semi-permanent lunar habitats (perhaps several linked landers)

Step 6: Permanent outpost

Step 7: Industry!

Step 8: ???

Step 9: Profit!

The eagles would ferry passengers and cargo from the outpost/habitat to the space station, saving us costs on lifting the spaceship's superstructure to orbit every single time
Corrected that.

Also, I have a question about the flights, is there a reason you put the Communist and the Hypercapitalist in the same flight team?

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread V

Posted: 2008-12-16 09:43pm
by Fingolfin_Noldor
Karmic Knight wrote:Corrected that.

Also, I have a question about the flights, is there a reason you put the Communist and the Hypercapitalist in the same flight team?
Hmm... *grabs pop corn and fits an inflight camera to watch. Makes sure there are baseball bats in the cabin...*

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread V

Posted: 2008-12-16 11:56pm
by Ryan Thunder
Well I haven't really announced it, so I'm going to pretend I was researching submersible helicopter assault carriers instead. Does anybody want to set up a deal building them?

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread V

Posted: 2008-12-17 12:32am
by Fingolfin_Noldor
Ryan Thunder wrote:Well I haven't really announced it, so I'm going to pretend I was researching submersible helicopter assault carriers instead. Does anybody want to set up a deal building them?
....

You might want to search for a thread on submersible carriers. I hope you are in the HAB.

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread V

Posted: 2008-12-17 12:34am
by TimothyC
Ryan Thunder wrote:Well I haven't really announced it, so I'm going to pretend I was researching submersible helicopter assault carriers instead. Does anybody want to set up a deal building them?

Why not just go all out and get Nuclear Powered Hydrofoil Battleships?