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From the IISS Strategic Balance 2004-2004:

Syria
Population: 19 Million
Area: 185,000 km2
GDP: $71.74 billion
GDP (Per Capita) $5,300

Army 280,000 men
MBT 4,600
AIFV 2,100 BMP-1, 100 BMP-2
APC some 1,600 BTR-50/-60/-70/-152
TOWED ARTY 1,630:
AD GUNS 2,050
SAM 4,000

Navy 4,000 men
2 Frigates
12 Missile Craft
8 Inshore Patrol Craft
5 minesweepers
3 LSMs
20 x ASW Helos

Air Force 70,000 men
520 combat aircraft, 71 armed helicopters; 30 annual flying hours

Paramilitary:
100,000 Workers Milita (People's Army ; Aka Baath Army)

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Republic of Yemen
Population: 23 Million
Area: 527,968 km2
GDP: $52.61 billion
GDP (Per Capita) $2,400

Army 60,000 men
790 MBTs
200 BMPs
650 APCs (M113s, BTRs)
310 Towed Artillery
800~ SAMs (MANPADs)

Navy: 1,700 Men
6 Missile Craft (many missile craft do not have full load outs)
6 Inshore Patrol Craft
6 Minesweepers
1 LST (190 troop capacity)
4 LCUs

Air Force: 5,000 Men (has ADA duties)
72 combat aircraft, 8 attack helos (MiG-21s, F-5Es, Su-20/22s, etc)
Some SA-2, SA-3 etc

Paramilitary
50,000 Ministry of the Interior Forces
20,000 Tribal Levies

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Albania
Population: 3.6 million
Area: 28,748 km2
GDP: $21.160 billion
GDP (Per Capita) $6,649

Army: 16,000 men
373 Tanks
100 APCs
250 Towed Artillery Pieces
125 AA Guns

Navy: 2,000 Men
20 Patrol and Coastal Combatants
2 Minesweepers

Air Force: 3,500 men
26 Combat Aircraft; 10-15 flying hours annually
(MiG-17, MiG-19, MiG-21)

Paramilitary:
One Battalion of Internal Security Force (Special Police)
500 Border Policemen (Ministry of Public Order)

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Greece
Population: 11.2 million
Area: 131,000 km2
GDP: $342 billion
GDP (Per Capita) $30,000

Army: 110,000 men
1,700 MBTs
500 AIFVs (BMP)
1,600 APCs (M113s)
729 Towed Arty
400 SP Arty
500 ZSU-23-2s
1,000 Stingers
20 x AH-64As

Navy: 19,000 Men
8 SSKs
2 DDGs (Charles F Addams)
12 Frigates (MEKOs etc)
40 Patrol and Coastal Combatants
8 ASW Helos

Air Force: 30,200 Men
389 Combat Aircraft; (A-7s, F-16s, F-5s, Mirages)

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Russia
Population: 142 million
Area: 17 million km2
GDP: $1.29 trillion
GDP (Per Capita) $9,000

Army: 360,000 troops
22,800 Tanks (lots are in storage)
24,990 APCs/IFVs (lots are in storage)
12,765 Towed Artillery (lots are in storage)
6,010 SP Artillery (lots are in storage)
2,465 SAM Systems

Navy: 155,000 troops
15 SSNs
7 SSGNs
15 SSKs
1 CV
6 Cruisers
14 Destroyers
6 Frigates
86 Patrol and Coastal Combatants
266 combat aircraft, 161 armed helos
7,500 Naval Infantry with 160 MBTs, and 150 IFVs plus supporting arty

Air Force 184,000 troops

Long range aviation: 25 hrs annual flying time
Tactical/PVO: 20-25 hours annual flying time
Transports: 60 hrs annual flying time

1,736 Combat Aircraft and 700 Armed Helos
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Shroom Man 777 wrote:For reference:

HERE is where I got the awesome MAP OF SHROOMANIA.

HERE and HERE are other maps you guys can use for the land masses!

DUDES! These maps are from Ace Combat and Ace Combat is AWESOME!
Shroom Man 777 wrote:You guys should seriously consider using this.

I already got dibs on the Usean Continent.

Stas could use his leet mapmaking skills to resize and rearrange these pre-owned continents, so we can have an AWESOME new SDN world that's not a giant archipelago.

We could have Tsardoms and Imperiums being continental powers, Duchies and Principalities being archipelagos, etc.
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From Arabs at War:
For instance, the Egyptian Air Force in 1956 had only 30 pilots for its 120 MiGs, a one to four ratio. Libya had only 25 trained pilots for its 110 Mirages in 1973, and four years later had only 150 pilots for the 550 aircraft in its air force.

Indeed, the Egyptians essentially accepted after the Six Day War that it was impossible for them to train more than about 30 pilots a year despite their population of 30 million people. These problems were not just limited to the air forces: the Libyans have never been able to train crews for more than about one-third of the tanks in their arsenal, while the Syrians have crews for only two-thirds of their armored vehicles.
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South Africa
47.9 million
1.2 million km2
$467.9 billion GDP
$10,600 Per Capita GDP

Army: 36,000 men
167 MBTs + 125 in storage
1,200 IFVs + 666 in Storage
700 APCs (Mine Protected wheeled)
72 x Towed Artillery +140 in Storage
43 x SP Artillery + 31 in Storage

Navy: 4,500 men
3 SSKs
4 MEKO Corvettes
8 Patrol and Coastal Combatants

Air Force: 9,250 men
50 Combat Aircraft, 12 Attack Helos
(Basic light COIN aircraft and armed trainers)

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South Korea
49 million
99,600 km2
$981 billion GDP
$19,751 Per Capita GDP

Army: 560,000 men
2,200 MBTs
1,700 IFVs
500 APCs (M113s)
3,500 Towed Artillery Pieces
1,040 SP Artillery Pieces
60 x AH-1
45 x MD-500

Navy: 63,000 men
9 x SSKs
11 x Small Intelligence Subs (175 tons)
6 x DDGs
9 x FFGs
24 x Corvettes
84 x Patrol and Coastal Combatants
15 x Mine Warfare Craft
12 x Amphibious Ships
28,000 Marines + 60 M-47s + 140 Amtracs

Air Force: 64,700 men
583 combat aircraft (153 F-16s, 185 F-Es, 130 F-4s etc)

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Taiwan
22.9 million
36,100 km2
$695 billion GDP
$30,126 Per Capita GDP

Army: 200,000 men
926 MBTs
800 Light Tanks (M-24 Chafees + Walker Bull dogs)
225 M113s with autocannon
650 M113s
300 V-150 Commandos
800~ Towed Artilelry
180 SP Artillery
62 x AH-1Ws
39 x OH-58Ds

Navy: 45,000 men
4 x SSKs (two are modern, two are WW2 Guppys)
11 x DDGs (all modified WW2 US DDs)
21 x FFGs (Perry, LaFayette, Knox)
59 x Patrol and Coastal Combatants
15,000 marines with 150 Amtracks

Air Force: 45,000 men
479 Combat aircraft, annual flying hours 180.
Mirage 2000s, F-5Es, F-16As, etc

Paramilitaries:
25,000 Security Groups (National Police Administration, Bureau of Investigation, Military Police)
1,000 Maritime Police with 38 patrol boats


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Singapore
4.5 million
700 km2
$228 billion GDP
$49,000 Per Capita GDP

Army: 50,000 Troops
100 Centurion MBTs
350 AMX-10 Light Tanks
270 IFVs (IFV-25 etc)
750 M113s
200~ Towed Artillery pieces

Navy: 9,000 troops
3 x SSKs
23 x Patrol and Coastal Combatants

Air Force: 13,500 Troops
125 Combat Aircraft, 28 Armed Helos
(A-4s, F-16A, F-16C, F-5S, AH-64, etc)

Paramilitaries:
12,000 - Singapore POlice Force
1,500 - Singapore Ghurka Contigent
84,000 - Civil Defense Force


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Sweden
9.1 million
173,000 km2
$455 billion GDP
$49,000 Per Capita GDP

Army: 13,800 troops (with 225,000 reserves)
300~ MBTs (leopard 2s)
1,500~ IFVs (I think mainly for reservists in case of war mobilization)
500 APCs (MT-LB Clones)
155 x Towed Artillery
26 x SP Artillery

Navy: 7,900 Troops
7 x SSKs
36 x Patrol and Missile Combatants

Air Force: 5,900 troops
207 Combat Aircraft: 110-140 flying hours annually

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Brazil
186.7 million
8.5 million km2
$1.84 trillion GDP
$11,800 Per Capita GDP

Army: 189,000 troops
178 MBTs (M-60A1s and Leo1s)
286 Light tanks (M-41s)
584 M113s (tracked APCs)
219 EE-11 (Wheeled APCs)
280 x Towed Artillery
100 x SP Artillery

Navy: 48,600 troops
1 x CV (French Clemencau)
7 x FFGs
4 x FFs
4 x Corvettes
47 x Patrol and Coastal Combatants
23 combat aircraft, 54 armed helos
14,600 marines + M113s, and a few light tanks)

Air Force: 65,300 troops
254 Combat Aircraft
(Minaly light COIN, etc)

Paramilitary
385,000 Public Security Forces
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Thanks for the nation break downs Shep.
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Another larger, more detailed map of the Ace Combat world - Strangereal

Which we could use as basis for SDN World 2's land masses. Re-arrange them, make some smaller, and then add some other islands and masses based on real world geography or something, and viola.
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I do want something with more land borders. So, would a GDP of 800 billion be acceptable for a nation my size? I wanted to start working on my stats, but I'm not sure what's been decided on.
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Aircraft Costs normalized to 2007 Dollars

C-47 Dakota -- 1941 -- $1.81 million
C-47 Dakota -- 1942 -- $1.39 million
C-47 Dakota -- 1943 -- $1.11 million
C-47 Dakota -- 1944 -- $1.04 million
C-47 Dakota -- 1945 -- $0.98 million

A-20 Havoc -- 1941 -- $1.93 million
A-20 Havoc -- 1942 -- $1.57 million
A-20 Havoc -- 1943 -- $1.33 million
A-20 Havoc -- 1944 -- $1.19 million

P-61 Black Widow -- 1941 -- $9.15 million
P-61 Black Widow -- 1942 -- $3.11 million
P-61 Black Widow -- 1943 -- $2.18 million

F-80A Shooting Star -- 1945 -- $1.09 million
F-80B Shooting Star -- 1947 -- $0.88 million
F-80C Shooting Star -- 1948 -- $0.81 million

F-82B Twin Mustang -- 1945 -- $1.62 million
F-82E Twin Mustang -- 1947 -- $1.99 million
F-82F Twin Mustang -- 1948 -- $1.85 million

F-84B Thunderjet -- 1947 -- $1.52 million
F-84C Thunderjet -- 1948 -- $1.27 million
F-84E Thunderjet -- 1949 -- $1.85 million
F-84G Thunderjet -- 1951 -- $1.90 million

F-84F Thunderstreak -- 1952 -- $6.01 million

F-86E Sabre -- 1950 -- $1.89 million
F-86D Sabredog -- 1951 -- $2.75 million
F-86K Sabredog -- 1955 -- $3.42 million

F-89B Scorpion -- 1951 -- $8.69 million
F-89H Scorpion -- 1955 -- $7.67 million

F-4C Phantom II -- 1964 -- $12.67 million
F-4D Phantom II -- 1967 -- $10.56 million
F-4E Phantom II -- 1967 -- $14.91 million

F-16A Falcon -- 1979 -- $29.14 million
F-16C Falcon -- 1984 -- $31.94 million

F-104A Starfighter -- 1960 -- $11.89 million
F-104B Starfighter -- 1960 -- $16.78 million
F-104C Starfighter -- 1960 -- $10.49 million

F-105B Thunderchief -- 1960 -- $39.51 million
F-105D Thunderchief -- 1960 -- $14.97 million

F-106A Delta Dart -- 1959 -- $33.69 million
F-106B Delta Dart -- 1959 -- $35.26 million

F-111A Aardvark -- 1967 -- $51.42 million
F-111D Aardvark -- 1970 -- $45.48 million
F-111E Aardvark -- 1969 -- $52.42 million
F-111F Aardvark -- 1972 -- $51.33 million

FB-111A Aardvark -- 1968 -- $58.50 million

F-12A Blackbird -- 1965 -- $108.55 million

B-29A Superfortress -- 1942 -- $11.31
B-29A Superfortress -- 1944 -- $7.12
B-29A Superfortress -- 1945 -- $5.86

B-26 Marauder -- 1941 -- $3.68 million
B-26 Marauder -- 1942 -- $3.03 million
B-26 Marauder -- 1943 -- $2.57 million
B-26 Marauder -- 1944 -- $2.26 million

B-36A Peacemaker -- 1947 -- $23.15 million
B-36B Peacemaker -- 1948 -- $21.55 million
B-36D Peacemaker -- 1950 -- $35.67 million
B-36F Peacemaker -- 1951 -- $33.11 million
B-36H Peacemaker -- 1952 -- $32.42 million
B-36J Peacemaker -- 1953 -- $28.22 million

B-47B Stratojet -- 1950 -- $21.12 million
B-47E Stratojet -- 1953 -- $14.49 million
RB-47E Stratojet -- 1953 -- $15.95 million
RB-47H Stratojet -- 1955 -- $16.49 million

B-50A Superfortress -- 1948 -- $9.86 million
B-50B Superfortress -- 1949 -- $9.95 million
B-50D Superfortress -- 1949 -- $9.95 million

B-52A Stratofortress -- 1954 -- $226.07 million
B-52B Stratofortress -- 1955 -- $111.87 million
B-52C Stratofortress -- 1956 -- $55.33 million
B-52D Stratofortress -- 1956 -- $50.24 million
B-52E Stratofortress -- 1957 -- $43.74 million
B-52F Stratofortress -- 1958 -- $46.66 million
B-52G Stratofortress -- 1959 -- $54.95 million
B-52H Stratofortress -- 1961 -- $64.48 million

B-57A Canberra -- 1953 -- $72.47 million
RB-57A Canberra -- 1953 -- $12.88 million
B-57B Canberra -- 1954 -- $9.73 million
RB-57D Canberra -- 1955 -- $23.69 million

B-58A Hustler -- 1959 -- $88.87 million

RB-66A Destroyer -- 1954 -- $119.36 million
B-66B Destroyer -- 1956 -- $28.13 million
RB-66B Destroyer -- 1956 -- $19.78 million

A-10 Thunderbolt II -- 1978 -- $18.21 million
A-10 Thunderbolt II -- 1980 -- $15.96 million

A-6E Intruder -- 1980 -- $66.12 million
A-6E Intruder -- 1984 -- $77.18 million
A-6E Intruder -- 1987 -- $31.50 million

MC-130H Hercules-- 1984 -- $72.95 million
C-130H Hercules -- 1992 -- $62.60 million
C-130J Hercules -- 1996 -- $64.73 million
C-130J Hercules -- 1997 -- $81.01 million
AC-130U Spectre -- 1992 -- $115.07 million

AH-1S Cobra -- 1978 -- $5.42 million
AH-1S Cobra -- 1980 -- $6.19 million

AH-1W Sea Cobra -- 1986 -- $15.40 million
AH-1W Sea Cobra -- 1992 -- $15.61 million

AH-64 Apache -- 1984 -- $24.24 million
AH-64 Apache -- 1987 -- $20.02 million

C-17 Globemaster III -- 1988 -- $583.36 million
C-17 Globemaster III -- 1992 -- $626.40 million
C-17 Globemaster III -- 1996 -- $395.76 million
C-17 Globemaster III -- 1997 -- $341.70 million

C-40A -- 2003 -- $69.45 million

C-5 Galaxy -- 1984 -- $677.79 million

AV-8B Harrier II -- 1992 -- $66.47 million
AV-8B Harrier II -- 1996 -- $39.45 million
AV-8B Harrier II -- 1997 -- $38.01 million
AV-8B Harrier II -- 1988 -- $42.67 million
AV-8B Harrier II -- 1984 -- $66.02 million
AV-8B Harrier II -- 1987 -- $27.12 million

B-1B Lancer -- 1981 -- $3,680.37 million
B-1B Lancer -- 1984 -- $1,222.46 million

B-2A Spirit -- 1992 -- $3,394.68 million
B-2A Spirit -- 1993 -- $954.12 million

E-2C Hawkeye -- 1978 -- $104.30 million
E-2C Hawkeye -- 1981 -- $100.00 million
E-2C Hawkeye -- 1984 -- $107.85 million
E-2C Hawkeye -- 1997 -- $103.33 million
E-2C Hawkeye -- 2003 -- $95.74 million

E-3A AWACS -- 1981 -- $308.22 million
E-3A AWACS -- 1978 -- $284.18 million

E-8C JSTARS -- 1996 -- $344.06 million
E-8C JSTARS -- 1997 -- $335.27 million

EA-6B Prowler -- 1984 -- $121.83 million
EA-6B Prowler -- 1987 -- $62.64 million

F-15 -- 1978 -- $52.15 million
F-15 -- 1980 -- $44.51 million
F-15 -- 1984 -- $141.48 million
F-15 -- 1986 -- $69.96 million
F-15K -- 2008 -- $109.52 million

F-14 -- 1978 -- $59.53 million
F-14 -- 1980 -- $64.34 million
F-14 -- 1984 -- $81.17 million
F-14 -- 1987 -- $82.65 million
F-14 -- 1988 -- $119.50 million

F-16 -- 1978 -- $45.10 million
F-16 -- 1980 -- $23.89 million
F-16 -- 1984 -- $20.99 million
F-16 -- 1986 -- $30.63 million

F-18A/B Hornet -- 1980 -- $112.82 million

F-18C/D Hornet -- 1984 -- $58.75 million
F-18C/D Hornet -- 1987 -- $57.89 million
F-18C/D Hornet -- 1988 -- $50.80 million
F-18C/D Hornet -- 1992 -- $62.68 million
F-18C/D Hornet -- 1995 -- $57.61 million
F-18C/D Hornet -- 1996 -- $64.49 million

F-18E/F Super Hornet -- 1997 -- $219.51 million
F-18E/F Super Hornet -- 2003 -- $80.71 million

F-22A Raptor -- 2007 -- $162.43 million

CH-47D -- 1986 -- $10.84 million
MH-47E -- 1992 -- $21.46 million

CH-53 -- 1980 -- $35.23 million
CH-53E -- 1986 -- $27.93 million
CH-53E -- 1984 -- $34.08 million
CH-53E -- 1992 -- $40.54 million

KC-10 -- 1980 -- $122.67 million
KC-10 -- 1981 -- $124.43 million
KC-10 -- 1984 -- $196.13 million

SH-60B LAMPS MK III -- 1992 -- $30.30 million
SH-60B LAMPS MK III -- 1981 -- $89.64 million
SH-60B LAMPS MK III -- 1986 -- $30.58 million
SH-60B LAMPS MK III -- 1984 -- $50.15 million
SH-60B LAMPS MK III -- 1988 -- $34.22 million
SH-60F -- 1992 -- $29.79 million

UH-60A Blackhawk -- 1978 -- $13.40 million
UH-60A Blackhawk -- 1980 -- $10.20 million
UH-60 -- 1984 -- $10.25 million
HH-60G -- 1997 -- $17.36 million
MH-60G Pave Hawk -- 1992 -- $5.79 million
MH-60K -- 1992 -- $37.90 million
UH-60L -- 1992 -- $12.49 million
MH-60L -- 1992 -- $37.90 million
MH-60S -- 2003 -- $25.89 million

P-3 Orion -- 1981 -- $81.96 million
P-3C Orion -- 1984 -- $121.32 million
P-3C Orion -- 1986 -- $78.70 million
P-3C Orion -- 1987 -- $77.58 million

T-45 -- 1988 -- $57.24 million

TR-1/U-2 -- 1981 -- $79.11 million
TR-1/U-2 -- 1984 -- $65.07 million

V-22 -- 1997 -- $155.94 million
V-22 -- 2003 -- $107.74 million

Predator UAV -- 1997 -- $9.71 million

Ship Costs normalized to 2007 Dollars

DDG-51 Arleigh Burke -- 1995 -- $1,198.19
DDG-51 Arleigh Burke -- 1996 -- $1,329.39
DDG-51 Arleigh Burke -- 1997 -- $1,113.24
DDG-51 Arleigh Burke -- 2003 -- $1,617.31

Nimitz CVN -- 1988 -- $5,461.47

MHC Coastal Minehunter -- 1992 -- $154.31

AOE-6 -- 1987 -- $906.93 million

CG-47 -- 1981 -- $2,228.08 million
CG-47 -- 1984 -- $1,977.05 million
CG-47 -- 1987 -- $1,615.69 million
CG-47 -- 1988 -- $1,465.08 million

Battleship Reactivication -- 1981 -- $759.59 million
Battleship Reactivication -- 1984 -- $944.71 million

LCAC -- 1984 -- $53.89 million
LCAC -- 1986 -- $43.32 million
LCAC -- 1992 -- $29.85 million

LHD-1 -- 1984 -- $2,725.95 million
LHD-1 -- 1986 -- $1,567.11 million
LHD-1 -- 1988 -- $1,340.63 million

LPD-17 -- 2003 -- $1,817.25 million

LSD-41 -- 1981 -- $694.06 million
LSD-41 -- 1984 -- $791.62 million
LSD-41 Variant -- 1988 -- $451.84 million

Mark V Special Operations Craft -- 1995 -- $6.46 million

Mark VIIII Mod 1 SEAL DV -- 1997 -- $4.23 million

MCM-1 -- 1981 -- $225.80 million

SSBN Ohio -- 1984 -- $4,152.30 million
SSBN Ohio -- 1987 -- $2,476.46 million
SSBN Ohio -- 1988 -- $2,244.66 million

SSN-688 -- 1981 -- $1,840.98 million
SSN-688 -- 1984 -- $1,318.16 million
SSN-688 -- 1986 -- $1,100.71 million
SSN-688 -- 1987 -- $1,016.97 million
SSN-688 -- 1988 -- $1,000.99 million

SSN-21 (SSN-23) -- 1996 -- $1,991.41 million

SSN Virginia -- 2003 -- $2,785.68 million
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