Shroom Man 777 wrote:Hey Shin, are you creating the carrier in your own country or contracting CATO guys to help out?
I believe that carrier is the one I sold him, a few years back. So I imagine by now he's got it in service.
Anyway, Wiki question for those using it:
I set up my page so that my Navy and Army pages are a subsection of my main page (Shinra_Republic/Navy) and I see Karmic did the same (as did Ryan, with his ship types). But Coyote made his seperate pages, and Fin even made an independent economy page. So, for the sake of uniformity, I want some feedback on how we should handle these sorts of things. Top level pages or subpages?
"How can I wait unknowing?
This is the price of war,
We rise with noble intentions,
And we risk all that is pure..." - Angela & Jeff van Dyck, Forever (Rome: Total War)
"On and on, through the years,
The war continues on..." - Angela & Jeff van Dyck, We Are All One (Medieval 2: Total War)
"Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgment that something else is more important than fear." - Ambrose Redmoon
"You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain." - Harvey Dent, The Dark Knight
Figured I’d run some things past you all before I post it. Before I had to leave the game, Indhopal's navy was expanding heavily into submarines. Talking with Seigetank about the amount of subs the FTO was making before its demise, it would seem reasonable that Indhopal could have 6 vigilant class SSGN's and 2 Barracuda SSN's, as these programs were a priority for Indhopal. Another 16 or so type 212 subs would also be reasonable.
I won't say a bunch of subs appear in my inventory if people don't like it, but these numbers are logical given what San Dorado acquired and this was a joint project.
I also had 6 Standard class destroyers on order when I left, so those should also be added to my inventory.
The air force is as big as it was going to get, so no new acquisition maybe just upgrades to keep them current with new developments. Same with the army. The military is one thing the parliament was able at least keep moving forward.
God DAMN you MESSheads are fucking devious, you know that!
You blow up the Costa into a war so EVERYONE ends up being SRS BSNSS!
As a result, all my MAD SCHEMES for Mongol Warriors and Golden Hordes in Khitan have been delayed! I can't write any of that if I'm busy going all geopolitical and all that, can I? Damn!
Yes. By sparking a war, you have stemmed the tide of my dickeries and inanities. Damn you all!
(Seriously. Instead of writing stuff about Mongols and Khan Alans, I'm totally sidetracked by this serious stuff. Man, this sucks!)
"DO YOU WORSHIP HOMOSEXUALS?" - Curtis Saxton (source) shroom is a lovely boy and i wont hear a bad word against him - LUSY-CHAN! Shit! Man, I didn't think of that! It took Shroom to properly interpret the screams of dying people - PeZook Shroom, I read out the stuff you write about us. You are an endless supply of morale down here. :p - an OWS street medic Pink Sugar Heart Attack!
Coyote, your Wiki formatting makes me want to cry. I went to fix it up, but then you went and added shit, so all my formatting changes were lost unless I replaced your stuff wholesale.
So you got to keep your changes. But now I'm going to lock editing to me only until I go through and fix your formatting...again.
Because seriously, it's horrible.
EDIT: Holy shit, your Katangwa Free State one is just as bad. That's it, no more creating articles for you!
"How can I wait unknowing?
This is the price of war,
We rise with noble intentions,
And we risk all that is pure..." - Angela & Jeff van Dyck, Forever (Rome: Total War)
"On and on, through the years,
The war continues on..." - Angela & Jeff van Dyck, We Are All One (Medieval 2: Total War)
"Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgment that something else is more important than fear." - Ambrose Redmoon
"You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain." - Harvey Dent, The Dark Knight
RogueIce wrote:Coyote, your Wiki formatting makes me want to cry. I went to fix it up, but then you went and added shit, so all my formatting changes were lost unless I replaced your stuff wholesale.
So you got to keep your changes. But now I'm going to lock editing to me only until I go through and fix your formatting...again.
Because seriously, it's horrible.
EDIT: Holy shit, your Katangwa Free State one is just as bad. That's it, no more creating articles for you!
I don't get it. They look fine to me.
Bear in mind I typically splat the page on there with raw information and then go back to fix it later. But I had no idea why the "formatting is messed up" (?). I only saw a couple changes you made. WTF is going on?
Something about Libertarianism always bothered me. Then one day, I realized what it was:
Libertarian philosophy can be boiled down to the phrase, "Work Will Make You Free."
In Libertarianism, there is no Government, so the Bosses are free to exploit the Workers.
In Communism, there is no Government, so the Workers are free to exploit the Bosses.
So in Libertarianism, man exploits man, but in Communism, its the other way around! If all you want to do is have some harmless, mindless fun, go H3RE INST3ADZ0RZ!! Grrr! Fight my Brute, you pansy!
RogueIce wrote:Coyote, your Wiki formatting makes me want to cry. I went to fix it up, but then you went and added shit, so all my formatting changes were lost unless I replaced your stuff wholesale.
So you got to keep your changes. But now I'm going to lock editing to me only until I go through and fix your formatting...again.
Because seriously, it's horrible.
EDIT: Holy shit, your Katangwa Free State one is just as bad. That's it, no more creating articles for you!
I don't get it. They look fine to me.
Bear in mind I typically splat the page on there with raw information and then go back to fix it later. But I had no idea why the "formatting is messed up" (?). I only saw a couple changes you made. WTF is going on?
Basically, capitalizing every letter in your headers and a bunch of excessive paragraph space. It makes me a sad puppy when I look at it.
The reason I locked it is, as I said, when I went to change all that you'd gone and made an edit so I lost my changes (as I didn't want to delete yours). So I locked it so I can make those changes again. Once I'm done I'll unlock it.
Think of it as a temp-lock to split posts used on here.
EDIT: You want to fix all that, shoot me a PM (on here) and I'll let you do it.
By the way, the paragraph space I'm talking about is this:
"How can I wait unknowing?
This is the price of war,
We rise with noble intentions,
And we risk all that is pure..." - Angela & Jeff van Dyck, Forever (Rome: Total War)
"On and on, through the years,
The war continues on..." - Angela & Jeff van Dyck, We Are All One (Medieval 2: Total War)
"Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgment that something else is more important than fear." - Ambrose Redmoon
"You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain." - Harvey Dent, The Dark Knight
Oh, OK. I was starting to go back and eliminate some of the excessive paragraph spacing myself. I was just primarily concerned with getting the information on the pages first and foremost and prettifying later. I still have a lot more to add with the RAF, for example, and so on. I'm going to try to make a map as well, yadda yadda.
As for categories--
I was going with separate pages because that's who they do it in th e"real" Wiki, where nations typically have separate pages devoted to the armed forces branches. If we want to make them sub-pages of the main entry, that's fine so long as we're all consistent.
The following categories should be used to subdivide:
Nations by Continent (Old Continent, Frquesue, etc)
Nations by Affiliation (MESS, CATO, FTO) and by Observer Affiliation.
Nations by Player or NPC status.
Militaries in general
Militaries by Affiliation (MESS, CATO, FTO, etc)
I was going to add a page with a more in-depth look into the different Canissian Provinces and what they're based on IRL, and a cast of characters so people can refer to things and people properly. But that was once things got done with the raw information.
Something about Libertarianism always bothered me. Then one day, I realized what it was:
Libertarian philosophy can be boiled down to the phrase, "Work Will Make You Free."
In Libertarianism, there is no Government, so the Bosses are free to exploit the Workers.
In Communism, there is no Government, so the Workers are free to exploit the Bosses.
So in Libertarianism, man exploits man, but in Communism, its the other way around! If all you want to do is have some harmless, mindless fun, go H3RE INST3ADZ0RZ!! Grrr! Fight my Brute, you pansy!
Siege: How would the Raj respond to a request by the Commonwealth to purchase or lease land for the building of a Port and city on the 'other side' of the Large Peninsula than the one we've been working on?
Karmic Knight wrote:Siege: How would the Raj respond to a request by the Commonwealth to purchase or lease land for the building of a Port and city on the 'other side' of the Large Peninsula than the one we've been working on?
If you mean the bobbly bit under the 'Q' in 'Frequesue', then you might be in luck, because the North Frequesuan Coast Guard has a base in exactly that spot (there are four such bases evenly spaced along the coast; one in San Dorado, one in the Wilderness, one in Sabika and one in Coilerburg). We could probably involve you if you want to expand what is essentially a small naval base into a port city, and you wouldn't have to start from scratch (although I'm honestly wondering what possible use it would be to build a city there).
RogueIce wrote:EDIT: You want to fix all that, shoot me a PM (on here) and I'll let you do it...
Alright, I been a'cleanin' in there. Just don't panic when you see me load something and it looks all skew at first. Give me some time and if it isn't cleaned up within, ohh, 48 hours give me a nastygram.
Something about Libertarianism always bothered me. Then one day, I realized what it was:
Libertarian philosophy can be boiled down to the phrase, "Work Will Make You Free."
In Libertarianism, there is no Government, so the Bosses are free to exploit the Workers.
In Communism, there is no Government, so the Workers are free to exploit the Bosses.
So in Libertarianism, man exploits man, but in Communism, its the other way around! If all you want to do is have some harmless, mindless fun, go H3RE INST3ADZ0RZ!! Grrr! Fight my Brute, you pansy!
A couple notes about the Canissian astronaut and now the San Dorado tycoons coming down in inner Veleria.
A) "Inner" Veleria is a pretty large place, so it's entirely probably they didn't land anywhere near each other.
B) Frankly I was preparing to post Cascadia having tracked the Silver Streak and preparing a mission to recover it. We have posts all along northern Veleria after all complete with radar stations.
”A Radical is a man with both feet planted firmly in the air.” – Franklin Delano Roosevelt
"No folly is more costly than the folly of intolerant idealism." - Sir Winston L. S. Churchill, Princips Britannia
American Conservatism is about the exercise of personal responsibility without state interference in the lives of the citizenry..... unless, of course, it involves using the bludgeon of state power to suppress things Conservatives do not like.
DONALD J. TRUMP IS A SEDITIOUS TRAITOR AND MUST BE IMPEACHED
CATO snipes at the MESS, the MESS snipes right back.
"How can I wait unknowing?
This is the price of war,
We rise with noble intentions,
And we risk all that is pure..." - Angela & Jeff van Dyck, Forever (Rome: Total War)
"On and on, through the years,
The war continues on..." - Angela & Jeff van Dyck, We Are All One (Medieval 2: Total War)
"Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgment that something else is more important than fear." - Ambrose Redmoon
"You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain." - Harvey Dent, The Dark Knight
RogueIce wrote:CATO snipes at the MESS, the MESS snipes right back.
I'm afraid Shroom is a much better sniper than you are.
His stuff with Gero isn't public. So I can hardly respond to that. Not without taking OOC information IU, which is Bad Manners.
So it was basically in reference to comments made about how all we sent were "warships" while CATO sent "humanitarian aid" (which happened to be escorted by warships, but that part wasn't mentioned).
EDIT: Speaking of which, is Prime Minister "I'm pissed at the MESS" Shroom ever going to visit, well, the MESS? Or has he called that off? My staffers wish to know.
"How can I wait unknowing?
This is the price of war,
We rise with noble intentions,
And we risk all that is pure..." - Angela & Jeff van Dyck, Forever (Rome: Total War)
"On and on, through the years,
The war continues on..." - Angela & Jeff van Dyck, We Are All One (Medieval 2: Total War)
"Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgment that something else is more important than fear." - Ambrose Redmoon
"You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain." - Harvey Dent, The Dark Knight
RogueIce wrote:His stuff with Gero isn't public. So I can hardly respond to that. Not without taking OOC information IU, which is Bad Manners.
So it was basically in reference to comments made about how all we sent were "warships" while CATO sent "humanitarian aid" (which happened to be escorted by warships, but that part wasn't mentioned).
EDIT: Speaking of which, is Prime Minister "I'm pissed at the MESS" Shroom ever going to visit, well, the MESS? Or has he called that off? My staffers wish to know.
I think he's referring to the news talk show that SHroom wrote.
STGOD: Byzantine Empire Your spirit, diseased as it is, refuses to allow you to give up, no matter what threats you face... and whatever wreckage you leave behind you.
Kreia
"... One guy doesn't really want to talk, and the other refuses to face reality. He's spending his country into the ground. So, alternate plan?"
I have a balanced budget, thank you. That is why my armed forces are so pathetically small...
Karmic Knight wrote:Siege: How would the Raj respond to a request by the Commonwealth to purchase or lease land for the building of a Port and city on the 'other side' of the Large Peninsula than the one we've been working on?
[Gero]What's this about purchasing untamed wilderness? Raj who?[/Gero]
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"... One guy doesn't really want to talk, and the other refuses to face reality. He's spending his country into the ground. So, alternate plan?"
I have a balanced budget, thank you. That is why my armed forces are so pathetically small...
Considering all the various military projects where you're unique in having them, eh... probably not. Anyways, not a comment for your IC ears.
"preemptive killing of cops might not be such a bad idea from a personal saftey[sic] standpoint..." --Keevan Colton
"There's a word for bias you can't see: Yours." -- William Saletan
You can't purchase wilderness; nobody owns it. Just tell people where your new territory is, and set up shop.
Conversion Table:
2000 Mockingbirds = 2 Kilomockingbirds
Basic Unit of Laryngitis = 1 Hoarsepower
453.6 Graham Crackers = 1 Pound Cake
1 Kilogram of Falling Figs - 1 Fig Newton
Time Between Slipping on a Banana Peel and Smacking the Pavement = 1 Bananosecond
Half of a Large Intestine = 1 Semicolon
Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:I think he's referring to the news talk show that Shroom wrote.
The President of the Shinra Republic can hardly indulge himself in that kind of rhetoric. It would be highly unprofessional, to say the least.
Besides, Coyote and now Karmic have done the hyperbole well enough on their own. We all have our strengths, after all.
"How can I wait unknowing?
This is the price of war,
We rise with noble intentions,
And we risk all that is pure..." - Angela & Jeff van Dyck, Forever (Rome: Total War)
"On and on, through the years,
The war continues on..." - Angela & Jeff van Dyck, We Are All One (Medieval 2: Total War)
"Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgment that something else is more important than fear." - Ambrose Redmoon
"You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain." - Harvey Dent, The Dark Knight
And just to show that there are no hard feelings between us all, I went and gave you CATO boys a nice Category page and an entry for the alliance.
"How can I wait unknowing?
This is the price of war,
We rise with noble intentions,
And we risk all that is pure..." - Angela & Jeff van Dyck, Forever (Rome: Total War)
"On and on, through the years,
The war continues on..." - Angela & Jeff van Dyck, We Are All One (Medieval 2: Total War)
"Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgment that something else is more important than fear." - Ambrose Redmoon
"You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain." - Harvey Dent, The Dark Knight
RogueIce wrote:CATO snipes at the MESS, the MESS snipes right back.
Pfft! That was weak!
Seriously, man. You guys. Only Coyote and Karmic are cool!
So it was basically in reference to comments made about how all we sent were "warships" while CATO sent "humanitarian aid" (which happened to be escorted by warships, but that part wasn't mentioned).
Those mangled Baernish boys and girls, and the thousands of Costan refugees in the Baernish Peacekeeping Buffer Zone won't give a hoot about the CATO ships and will find the C-rations and penicillin highly appreciated.
EDIT: Speaking of which, is Prime Minister "I'm pissed at the MESS" Shroom ever going to visit, well, the MESS? Or has he called that off? My staffers wish to know.
I WILL! Just tell your staffers to schedule it in... uhh... Unreal Time.
Goddamn, first we have impromptu CATO meetings and now impromptu wars and, probably, impromptu peace treaties. Fuck this is gonna be a long and unreal day.
Aw maaang.
"DO YOU WORSHIP HOMOSEXUALS?" - Curtis Saxton (source) shroom is a lovely boy and i wont hear a bad word against him - LUSY-CHAN! Shit! Man, I didn't think of that! It took Shroom to properly interpret the screams of dying people - PeZook Shroom, I read out the stuff you write about us. You are an endless supply of morale down here. :p - an OWS street medic Pink Sugar Heart Attack!
Again, you don't have to attend the ceasefire talks. And given the situation embarking on a state visit tour in Messica is quite advisable.
”A Radical is a man with both feet planted firmly in the air.” – Franklin Delano Roosevelt
"No folly is more costly than the folly of intolerant idealism." - Sir Winston L. S. Churchill, Princips Britannia
American Conservatism is about the exercise of personal responsibility without state interference in the lives of the citizenry..... unless, of course, it involves using the bludgeon of state power to suppress things Conservatives do not like.
DONALD J. TRUMP IS A SEDITIOUS TRAITOR AND MUST BE IMPEACHED
Beowulf wrote:Considering all the various military projects where you're unique in having them, eh... probably not. Anyways, not a comment for your IC ears.
If I am not wrong, San Dorado bankrolls a number of his projects.
STGOD: Byzantine Empire Your spirit, diseased as it is, refuses to allow you to give up, no matter what threats you face... and whatever wreckage you leave behind you.
Kreia
Remember, my inflammatory rhetoric posts were from media outlets-- one of which was openly a far-right wing nutcase tabloid that described how to make tinfoil hats.
The only time the King ever made any "official" pronouncements they were careful, neutral, and respectful. The media and "unnamed sources" stir shit for ratings. I'm role-playing an entire nation, remember, which includes paranoids and conspiracy theorists, and people just trying to spin a buck from stirring hyperbole.
Not everything I post is the "official word"! Only if it comes from the King, or sometimes a public statement from the Parliament, a General, or other government official.
Something about Libertarianism always bothered me. Then one day, I realized what it was:
Libertarian philosophy can be boiled down to the phrase, "Work Will Make You Free."
In Libertarianism, there is no Government, so the Bosses are free to exploit the Workers.
In Communism, there is no Government, so the Workers are free to exploit the Bosses.
So in Libertarianism, man exploits man, but in Communism, its the other way around! If all you want to do is have some harmless, mindless fun, go H3RE INST3ADZ0RZ!! Grrr! Fight my Brute, you pansy!
Got my own info articles up, including an incomplete history article, a milorbat article (with Rogue's help!), and attached to the OrBat article, the specific naval structure one showing what commands my ships are assigned to.
”A Radical is a man with both feet planted firmly in the air.” – Franklin Delano Roosevelt
"No folly is more costly than the folly of intolerant idealism." - Sir Winston L. S. Churchill, Princips Britannia
American Conservatism is about the exercise of personal responsibility without state interference in the lives of the citizenry..... unless, of course, it involves using the bludgeon of state power to suppress things Conservatives do not like.
DONALD J. TRUMP IS A SEDITIOUS TRAITOR AND MUST BE IMPEACHED
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- PeZook
