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Also for all, check once again both MAP and PACTS: the most recent (for all who'll comment here):
Neverhood (DEATH) is added as OMSK Pact vassal state.


Congrats to Shroom on assembling most of our little brethren! Truly he is more a pinko-red than I am with his altruistic "help the lesser" policy

In semi-seriousness:

Voluntaryist Libertopia



Area: 637,657 sq km

Population: Estimated 50 million+, decreasing.

Army: Pretty much anyone with a gun. (See also, Population, sub-states), Technicals ranging from Ladas with a guy with a gun standing in the sun roof (light tank Analogue) to Toyota pickups with HMGs, RPGs or several hopped-up headcases (Heavy Tank Analogue)

Airforce: Men with guns on the roof, attack helicopters circa 1970's vintage, prop-driven aircraft.

Navy: Men with guns in speedboats. Men with guns in fishing boats. Possible deployment of an advanced form for Car Bomb, known as the 'Boat Bomb'. 1x grounded Kirov, rusting.

GDP: As a nation, practically bugger all. It's black economy is estimated to rival the economies of a typical mega nation.

Main Industries: You're kidding, right?

Propping up the economy: Pain, misery, insanity, pirates, people, drugs, net importer of firearms.

Government: Nothing central.

Sub-States: From it's founding on Disintegration Day (variously the 21st, 7th, 12th and 17th of Janurary, July or maybe March 2007/2005/1997/yesterday), the entire nation has disintegrated into anarchy. At one point, virtually every street, every house was it's own independent fiefdom. However, when one of the larger mobs developed a devastating weapon known as the 'Car Bomb', various alliances have been formed, making the present state of near total war the most peaceful the country's been since about last Tuesday.

Membership:
None

volly doesn't exist he's only for the Coliseum.

And he would spoil the game anyway since he doesn't get economic or political realism, so we'd have to hack his nation off pretty fast

Isn't DEATH's title a derogatory title and thus he is only eligible for a Dutchy? If I'm mistaken please correct but otherwise he has over-claimed.

Stas Bush wrote:volly doesn't exist he's only for the Coliseum.

And he would spoil the game anyway since he doesn't get economic or political realism, so we'd have to hack his nation off pretty fast

The nation's been mentioned a few times in the thread itself. Everyone needs a hive of scum and villain.y :p

oh god yes

I pray that no one discovers oil there

EDIT:

And isn't DAETH a sock-state of Shepnukistan, either way?

Yes, Retarded Spambot counts as a negative title by any strech. Sorry Doof, you only get a dutchy.

Zor

Double Post, Sorry.

Which is interesting as DEATH just asked to be in my ANNSR pact. Im actually rather hounored

In seriousness though while we all pick on him, hges not THAT bad, well not as bad as he WAS, though it does change things with his custom title, knocking him way down in size. Of course also as mentioned its rather Moot as Deaths state in the very beginning, basiclly capitulated to Sheps assimation rather then risk getting snuffed out.

Another thing thats been bugging me is the sheer SPEED of the responses. It is a bit daunting and its easy for someone to get ;left in the dust. I hadn't checked the thing in about a day and find 3 or 4 new pages of conferance and treaty stuff. Perhaps we should "volunteer' someone to write up Page summaries in the form of a Newspaper for this?

You could ask individual dudes, via PM, about a short sit-rep. It won't be a complete picture, but it will keep you sort of appraised.

And isn't DAETH a sock-state of Shepnukistan, either way?

Indeed. Death holds a punitive CT. Neverhood was annexed in the Fraternal Brotherhood of OMSK early during the history of SD Nations with little objection from DEATH himself, and as such, we felt it would be unfair to change events that already transpired. Since he did not rule the nation, we only used his postcount and did not get penalized for having a ruler...

Awesome. You guys get your first-ever vassal state

...*laughs at DEATH's map*

*keels over*

Shroom Man 777 wrote:Awesome. You guys get your first-ever vassal state

...*laughs at DEATH's map*

*keels over*

It's a happy shark, you got a problem with that? You don't want Shark's to be happy or something?

EDIT: See reference thread.

The Duchy of Langley is missing from the Power Alliances Map for some reason.

did you make a mAp?

Crossroads Inc. wrote:did you make a mAp?

Yes, I did, and my nation shows up just fine on the regular world map.

Quesiton in general. I'm counting my carrier-based air wing against the allowed jet total. Is anyone else doing this or is anyone not doing this? Simply put if no one else is doing this then I am going to restate my AF.

I counted naval aviation against the total numbers as well.

I've counted naval and army aviation against the allowed jet fighter total, as appropriate. As such, A-10s count against the total.

CmdrWilkens wrote:Quesiton in general. I'm counting my carrier-based air wing against the allowed jet total. Is anyone else doing this or is anyone not doing this? Simply put if no one else is doing this then I am going to restate my AF.

I've not been, I've been assuming Carrier's came with a full complement (82 in Nimiz case) because 300 planes is not that much, even three carriers and you would have a bare half dozen planes to put on land.

It also makes sense from the point that Carriers without planes are utterly worthless, who would trade for a carrier unless he got the plans along with it? That's where I ended up with my eight hundred count plane total, 600 planes +Ships (6x82=492)=1092. And even then I only put 61 planes(If I remember correctly that's standard peace-time load) on the carriers I counted.

*Edit since this is a Zor RAR I've asked him to issue a ruling to set things in stone.

Well regardless of the ruling it appears enough other folks are going with carrier wings counting against that I will stick with that until production ramps up.

Also a complete Naval OOB has been posted for Wilkonia in the reference thread.

Crossroads Inc. wrote:Another thing thats been bugging me is the sheer SPEED of the responses. It is a bit daunting and its easy for someone to get ;left in the dust. I hadn't checked the thing in about a day and find 3 or 4 new pages of conferance and treaty stuff. Perhaps we should "volunteer' someone to write up Page summaries in the form of a Newspaper for this?

Yeah. That is a problem. I'm out for the day and the damn conference that I repeatedly called for was over before I got a chance to even see it.

CmdrWilkens wrote:Well regardless of the ruling it appears enough other folks are going with carrier wings counting against that I will stick with that until production ramps up.

Also a complete Naval OOB has been posted for Wilkonia in the reference thread.

Zor has returned my PM, Carrier air wings come out of general plane pool, I will be adjusting my OOB accordingly sometime tomorrow, it's to late this night.

I assumed all jet fighters are counted into total, this is reasonable.

let me relay to all that I do think it is reasonable because it stops mega-dickwankery (kingdoms entering pacts which don't even have much of an airforce, can convert their Navies into CVNs and suddenly end up with a fucking Royal aviation size - that should not fly in my view).

The jet cap also prevents carrier swarming whilst feeling at ease at home.

I understand that it's not too much fighters, but I think any fighter jet shoul dbe counted.

AEWs and non-fighter craft are not counted in totals.

P.S. Sorry Duchy of Langley, I will correct this in the evening and you shall be shown as a constituent of both OMSK and FUNGAL.

P.P.S. Night UKB your allies are ever vigilant and take up the guard