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We need a map of the planet. Otherwise, we don't know who's where or who has more resources.
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MKSheppard wrote:THe first act of the Omsk Pact is to annex DEATHtopia into the glorious fraternal brotherhood of comradeship; gaining us another
I'd just sit tight on my resources, build up the infastructure like mad. Science for the advancement of mankind! Especially as the "Old Boy Network" that would arise out of the Mess-controlled states would deliever a degree of immunity.
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I fanatically invade Zor's territory on principle alone and ignore any expenses, human or otherwise, that the campaign incurs.
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Lonestar wrote:I'd just sit tight on my resources, build up the infastructure like mad.
:wtf: Is this Lonestar? The Guy who likes to spam rush in CoH?
Especially as the "Old Boy Network" that would arise out of the Mess-controlled states would deliever a degree of immunity.
Not as much as you'd think so :) Senators automatically get big countries; and it's possible several Senators could put together a "fuck the mess" coalition.....
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MKSheppard wrote:it's possible several Senators could put together a "fuck the mess" coalition.....
8)

Seriously, though, building up a nuclear energy infrastructure is a smart thing to do: it's a long-term investment for when fossil fuels peak, it'll let my country be a net exporter, it's a step toward nuclear weapons, and it'll make my country healtheir and less polluted, raising quality of life for my citizens. I'd start that as soon as I got into the country.
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Surlethe wrote:
MKSheppard wrote:it's possible several Senators could put together a "fuck the mess" coalition.....
8)

Seriously, though, building up a nuclear energy infrastructure is a smart thing to do: it's a long-term investment for when fossil fuels peak, it'll let my country be a net exporter, it's a step toward nuclear weapons, and it'll make my country healtheir and less polluted, raising quality of life for my citizens. I'd start that as soon as I got into the country.
Except that it will take decades, if not centuries for that to be a bother, even Britian got some 3 decades of use out of the North sea with a population magnitudes larger than what's being discussed.

You & Lonestar Building up long-term infrastructure will just be a drain on your resources for decades, and will make your countries plump for the taking by those willing to wait the long term, to focus on the long term. 8)
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MKSheppard wrote:
:wtf: Is this Lonestar? The Guy who likes to spam rush in CoH?
No immediate threats, especially as every country is seperated by water. And no one has actual life. So, Nuclear/Hydro power it is, the Mess "Old Boy Network" could collaborate on a space program, etc.
Not as much as you'd think so :) Senators automatically get big countries; and it's possible several Senators could put together a "fuck the mess" coalition.....
Good thing there are several mess members who are Senators, huh? I don't think most of the Mess guys are going to go around picking fights, so there shouldn't be a reason for a anti-Mess coalition.
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Lonestar wrote:No immediate threats, especially as every country is seperated by water.
Or so you think. :twisted: Especially if we just go for smash and run tactcis; like firing off 1,500 TLAMs to hit every powerplant in someone's country - no power - no research - and it will take years to rebuild all the power infrastructure. 8)
Good thing there are several mess members who are Senators, huh?
And several senators who hate your guts. :wink:
I don't think most of the Mess guys are going to go around picking fights, so there shouldn't be a reason for a anti-Mess coalition.
In ALL of these kind of threads, it's always "oh hey, the mess will just hang out somewhere"; it gets tiring after the 40th time.
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TithonusSyndrome wrote:I fanatically invade Zor's territory on principle alone and ignore any expenses, human or otherwise, that the campaign incurs.
Sir, we would like to sell you some Mustard gas for this campaign. Shall our spokesmen trade calls?
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Will the islands come with stable with their internal affairs?

How about forming a coalition that focuses of developing space power? Anybody not adhearing to mentioned peace doctrine will be bombed from orbit.

Beyond that, I would quickly gather the country's intellectuals to help me manage the country's affairs. I would keep the military proffesional and as means to repel attacks and police the country if necesary.

Beyond that, I would declare a national holiday with beauty contests that includes a nude photo shot. :P The contest will run for both genders.
Beyond that, some fertility festivals at the end of harvest (whatever is the said island harvesting).
Government program to support birth control education and methods, including strict enforcement of good standards regarding products. Perhaps in some points I will lean towards socialist policies.

Regarding external policies, I would be careful who I am letting trough and whom I would ally with.
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My country would join a nuclear power/space travel coalition.
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Hawkwings wrote:My country would join a nuclear power/space travel coalition.
QFT, but I will enter into a vauge protection alliance with Shep's allied powers in exchange for the rights to build a certain number of bases in my territory. I certainly don't want to get vacuumed up like some of you guys before the space-race pays divedends.

Also, I think I might opt for the 2nd world nation, just to see what I can do with those extra people.
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My (pitifully small) nation would join a nuclear power/space travel coalition. I'd prefer my island placed somewhere near the equator, so it'd be a pretty spiffy place for a space launch center. In fact, I'd labour to make my island into a high-tech haven, make it into a sort of Latveria except without all the obvious ominous stuff associated with Doc Doom.

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Old Boy Network, all the way. Hell, we have 21 members with over 5k posts. Not to mention the supermods. We're larger than the Omsk pact. Don't piss us off. Since Shep seems to be trying to, we're probably going to level his country.
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I make my nation a peaceful, neutral nation, with the theme "420, all the time" I will corner the drug markets, and build all your cheap machines for you! It will be like neo Cuba, or no... Neo Grenada. No warfare with anyone, as I do not want to die in a massive series of nuclear fires. I will
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my little island won't be known for its landscape or standing army. but docks are extending out and the sea floor is being dredged, soon the harbor will be able to handle even the largest of ships.
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CaptainChewbacca wrote:FYTO (Pronounced Fee-toe) is not something to be triffled with.
FUCK YEAH

*signs his nation as a allied member of FYTO*
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Fuck Yeah Treaty Organization Statz:

24 Members
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265.7 million population
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170 DDGs
526 FFGs
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DEATH wrote:
Surlethe wrote:
MKSheppard wrote:it's possible several Senators could put together a "fuck the mess" coalition.....
8)

Seriously, though, building up a nuclear energy infrastructure is a smart thing to do: it's a long-term investment for when fossil fuels peak, it'll let my country be a net exporter, it's a step toward nuclear weapons, and it'll make my country healtheir and less polluted, raising quality of life for my citizens. I'd start that as soon as I got into the country.
Except that it will take decades, if not centuries for that to be a bother, even Britian got some 3 decades of use out of the North sea with a population magnitudes larger than what's being discussed.
So? The reason for building up a nuclear infrastructure is precisely to avoid fossil fuels being a bother, ever. For a smooth transition to a post-peak society, mitigation needs to start at least two decades early; if the infrastructure is not even in the large part reliant on fossil fuels, then the transition will go without a hitch, and my country will be able to sell its abundant excess energy to your country at exorbitant prices.
You & Lonestar Building up long-term infrastructure will just be a drain on your resources for decades, and will make your countries plump for the taking by those willing to wait the long term, to focus on the long term. 8)
No, it won't; it will actually make our economies more robust by keeping energy cheap. It will also make us among the first nuclear powers in this world. If you'd like to try to invade, then by all means do.
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I think you guys missed a point; RE nuclear infrastructure.

At the highest level; you get 21 nuclear powered ships; a CVN and 20 SSNs; and well.......they run off very highly enriched uranium to ensure a 30-year core life; it's only a step down from bomb grade. Plus, I assume that you get all the support facilities, etc attendant to support a nuclear navy. So that means a reactor complex to produce the nuclear fuel for the ships/boats.

So hmm....

*digs out British BLUE DANUBE bomb plans*
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I believe I would attempt to join Pe Zook's coalition, even if I am only a tiny nation. For me staying with the medium powers is probably the best I can hope for and still have some independence, especially in the face of Shep's agression. Maybe go for similiar paranoia to Albania and put bunkers and arms caches everywhere.
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MKSheppard wrote:In ALL of these kind of threads, it's always "oh hey, the mess will just hang out somewhere"; it gets tiring after the 40th time.
We don't just go "hang out somewhere" as you say; we form a coalition of our members to defend ourselves from the psychotic lunatics who decide to go on wars of conquest for no damn reason other than They Can.

And yeah, our strategy is no less boring than "RAR mass killing of people we don't like lolz" for the 40th time. Just so you know.

Anyway, as was pointed out earlier, you have no way of transporting your 'glorious' ground forces, and since Zor didn't see fit to give us aerial refueling, your jet fighters won't matter if somebody's island is out of range. Which for all we know could well be everybody (or at least a damn good chunk) without seeing some kind of map first. EDIT: Unless you have a carrier. In which case you're still outnumbered and outgunned anyway, for the most part. Forgot to put this in earlier.

Not to mention the fact there is no GPS network or anything like that in place, and you're not going to know where anybody is until you run into them. Which, again unless you have a carrier, means those who are "defending" with their Air Force will likely see your surface ships before you see them.

Or, I don't know, rather than the usual mass warfare that'll do little more than leave the majority of our new planet a war-ravaged wasteland, maybe we can try something new and different: actually working together, or at least not blowing each other up?

Yeah, I know. Too much to ask, right?
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Add me into the grand Shepastain collation
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Count me in FYTO! Hay guys, let's go FUCK YEAH! and run this thread to the ground!

To be serious, uhh... since I'm a moron I'll probably run my own country down to the ground, ending up with a shitty oligarchy as my dissatisfied populace gets manipulated by bloodsucker political rivals to try and replace my "benevolent rule" of incompetence with their own benevolent rules of incompetence.

In other words, I get the Philippines.

Fuck the tropics and the equator, I want a country with snow and four seasons!

I will use my influence to gain the allegiance and loyalty of nearby smaller nations of shitty posters and banana republics ruled by douchefags like DEATH, turning them gradually into subservient satellite states. Sort of like a lesser version of the Soviet Union.

But my rule will be benevolent and the weak shall come to me to shield them from big aggressor states.

I shall ward off the aggressor states until... well, until I come to terms with them and we carve up these little lesser states owned by DEATH and Volly.

It will be like... the harvesting of nations. More resources for the Fuck Yeah Treaty Organization! Their women will be ours, my allies! ARRR!!!


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For the sake of posterity I shall now include the statistics of my great nation:

The Sovereignty of SHROOMANIA

Land Area: Greenland’s

Population: 18 million

The Mushroom Military: Volunteer military though the public's secondary schooling includes some training

Navy:
2 Yer Mom class mothership submarines: the SSMMNs Yer Mom and the Yer Face - very very large and very very advanced submarines that can deploy recon UCAVs, special forces teams, or cruise missile strikes. As Shroomania is a peaceful nation, the Yer Moms have not been equipped with nuclear weapons, although that is an option. They do, however, carry MIRV MOABs.

20 Dolphin-class Diesel submarines

1 Nimitz-class Carrier

16 Arleigh Burke-class Destroyers

60 Halifax Class Frigates

Airforce:
The Shroomanian Airforce is composed of 300 modern jet fighters of various makes and models (American, Russian, European). The pilots are extremely competent as they are given ace training in a Top Gun air combat institute.

Hypersonic stealth aircraft are being researched and developed.

Army:
Roughly 100,000 volunteer soldiers with weaponry and training comparable to that of the Royal Army.

Special Branch: Cyborg Dinosaur Derivative Weapons Platforms

GDP: $450 million USD

Main Industries: agriculture and fisheries (major food exporter to the FUNGAL AXIS nations), minerals (from the mountain ranges), geothermal energy (also from the mountain ranges), construction (working together with the Red Technocracy to develop smaller nations, such as FUNGAL AXIS constituents), cyborg (dinosaur) technology, and medicine

Map:
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Government: Parliamentary with socialist tendencies, current leader is Prime Minister Shroom the Seven Hundred Seventy Seventh, there are no term limitations.

Membership:
FUNGAL AXIS - the small nations of the world are welcomed to join!
FYTO (Fuck Yeah Treaty Organization)
APCS (Allied Peacekeeping Committee on Syndromia)

Currently accomplished:
Weaponized Cyborg Dinosaurs
Pacification of the Shadow Empire
Creation of a class of advanced mothership submarines - the Yer Mom
Assisted in joint peacekeeping mission in Syndromia (ongoing)
Investment in space projects with the Red Technocracy and the Technocratic Greater Co-Prosperity Alliance (also known as the Alliance of Advanced Nuclear Research and Space)
Establishment of friendly relations with many of the great and small nations in the world
Raising awareness on the dangers of rogue aggressor states



The FUNGAL AXIS:

Shroomania (me)
Glorious People's Republican Democracy of Blasitification (Losonti Tokash)
Kingdom of Republicburgstatesville (NeoGoomba)
Kingdom of Triolia (Triol)
The Vortex Empire (The Vortex Empire)
Grand Duchy of Vanaheim (Vanas)
The Shadow Empire (Darth Shady)
Rail Republic of Caniba (Redleader34)
Republic of One (Zablorg)

The privileges of joining the FUNGAL AXIS include the mutual social, economic, political and military support of each and every member with the purpose of prosperity for all.

The FUNGAL AXIS provides mutual defense for its member nations, with each and every Axis nation fully aiding one another in the event of foreign aggression (by non-member nations). Should any member nation partake in military campaigns, commitments or initiatives, then other FUNGAL AXIS nations can volunteer their assistance.

Moreover, aside from the mutual benefits Axis nations gain from one another, Shroomania's membership in the FYTO (Fuck Yeah Treaty Organization) means that the FUNGAL constituent nations can, by extension, gain the aid of the FYTO and its considerable military assets in the Task Force Cuntpuncher.

Nonetheless, the FUNGAL AXIS is thoroughly committed to international peace and stability - as evident in its interventions in the Shadow Empire and the Zorian-Syndromia conflicts.

Shroomania has followed and joined the leading world powers in the pursuit of technology and science (be they conventional or Weird) and the FUNGAL AXIS ensures that the developing member nations also gain benefits from the ventures of larger FUNGAL AXIS nations. An example of this would be the joint Shroomanian-Red Technocratic development projects that construct tall and mighty erections to aid the progress of friendly nations.

These are a few of the many benefits of membership with the FUNGAL AXIS, and Shroomania speaks for its allies in saying that the nations of the FUNGAL AXIS would also stand to benefit greatly from alliances with the friendly nations of the League of Unaligned Nations. The sharing of culture, trade, technology, and assistance would benefit all of us in the international community.
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