Donraj doesn't understand how the government works

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Erm, the Parting Shots forum was created with the express purpose of allowing people to see their own banning threads after being ejected.

So no, you won't have to re-register to see this thread. Parting Shots is a publically view-able forum.
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Wow. That was a long-winded piece of bullshit. Grandstanding exit to a troll who tried to handwave away all the arguments made against him and ignored all evidence that undermined his position.

You're not going to be missed here. By the way, Donraj, nice example of projection there, those things you said about Mike. Doesn't help your case any that you ignored Simplicius and Johnason who, like Wong, Degan and myself, demolished your arguments so thoroughly there wasn't even a foundation left standing. Scratch off one more style-over-substance fuckwit, and good riddance.

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Wow a troll that asked to be banned. That's two shots wasn't it :wink:
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Donraj wrote:Mr. Wong, I have given you a page and a half of proof and arguments to back up my claim. You and your’s have chosen to ignore and misrepresent them in favor of repeating mindless, stereotyped liberal arguments. On the off-chance that you really don’t think I’ve provided proof of my claim and aren’t just being dense as an pretext to flame me I’ll restate myself, one last time. The example I offer of the Supreme Court flagrantly and arrogantly violating the Constitution and Court precedents is Roe vs. Wade. In setting their personal politics above all forms of American law the justices who made that decision dishonored themselves, dishonored their positions and spat in the face of every citizen of the United States of America, liberal or conservative, Christian or atheist, regardless of whether some of them are perceptive and open-minded enough to realize it, just as the Massachusetts Supreme Court and a certain Louisiana judge who’s name I can’t remember did more recently in the matter of gay marriage. That is all the evidence I have to offer on the subject and all the evidence I or anyone else should need to form an opinion on the subject.
Hey dumb-fuck, perhaps your homeschool teacher, aka Mommy, never explained this to you as a child, but when someone demands evidence, you're supposed to explain HOW your evidence backs up your claim, not simply name some case and SAY that it backs up your claim. What the fuck kind of moron are you? You're supposed to explain HOW Roe v Wade violated the Constitution or Supreme Court precedent, and you have done neither. Hell, you don't even seem to realize that the Supreme Court is in fact authorized to make rulings, as are all courts, where the law is currently silent or (much more likely) ambiguous on the subject. That's what the whole fucking concept of legal precedent means.
But, feel free to ignore that. Because as of now I’m not arguing to prove the point anymore or even arguing the point at all. I am withdrawing from this discussion, with apologies to the others who’ve spoken since my last post for failing to address their points, not that it would make much difference either way. In the past few years I’ve very grudgingly come to accept that no matter how right my position is or how good my arguments are some people will simply refuse to be persuaded. It became apparent a ways back that this is one of those and for once I don’t plan to bull on regardless. No Mr. Wong, I’m writing this post for the express purpose of telling you off. For the first time in the four years or so I’ve been on the Internet I am going to write one of the “Fuck you all, this place sucks and I’m leaving” posts that were so in vogue at a place I once frequented. You’ll forgive me for any shortcomings in this since I’ve never done it before, but I’ve seen plenty of examples, so I’m sure I can come up with something.
Awww, poor baby. Is this how you react when you lose an argument? You made a complete bullshit claim, and you couldn't back it up except to repeat it. Hell, your position is so fucking weak that you didn't even TRY to back it up, unless you really are so goddamned stupid that you think you can prove Roe v Wade violated the Constitution or prior top-level precedent by simply saying so, without even bothering to point out which part of the Constitution or precedent it violated. All you could do is screech that the Constitution doesn't say anything directly about abortion, thus demonstrating that you don't even know how your own government works.
First of all, let me thank you for providing me with hours of interesting, free reading material. I’ll probably continue to read your site even after my soon to be banning just out of curiosity. If nothing else you’ve pretty much convinced me that Star Wars could, in fact, whoop the Federation’s ass.

Now then. I’ve lurked here for a good while before I posted. I’ve read the rules at the front door, I’ve read old debates, I knew what the board culture was. And since I knew that going in it would be churlish for me to whine about being flamed here, which I fully expected. What I didn’t expect, and is my main reason for telling you off here, is the blatant intellectual dishonesty you and your cronies have shown in this thread. I have given you a well-thought out, coherent argument supported by the logic and the facts as to why Roe vs. Wade should be overturned.
Ahahahaha, you were challenged to provide evidence that the Supreme Court was ignoring the Constitution in their ruling, and you think you did so even though you never even bothered naming the part of the Constitution that it violated? :lol: :lol: :lol:
I have not once used strawmen, false analogies or any of the other fallacies and dishonest tactics I have been wrongly accused of here. You proceeded to ignore them and display a wonderful example of the “Wall of Ignorance” tactic your compatriots accused me of using. You, sir, are a fraud. You are not an intellectual, you are not an good debater and you are not worthy of respect as a person. You are an arrogant, bitter, spite-filled man who has surrounded himself with people who either think like you or are in awe of you and pass that off as being a model of reason. You are, in short, an trolling little ass who invents pretexts to display your general disrespect and intolerance for others’ views, then relies on the mob, your authority and the fact that most of the people who you debate with are immature or unprepared enough to make mistakes that you can further latch on, then you use their banning or concession as supposed proof positive.
I see you have learned your projection and bullshit techniques from Bill O'Reilly. Do you honestly expect any half-way intelligent person to believe that you supported your claim that the Supreme Court ignores the Constitution when you couldn't even be bothered to point out which part of the Constitution they violated?
Now then. We all know how obnoxious it is when people make a “final post” and then come back with an even more final post, so I won’t be creating a Wankatine to this post’s Sidious. To the people who will be rushing into to flame me and most especially to Wong himself’s reply, whatever it is, let me give a pre-emptive fuck you. Admiral Johnason, Simplicius, I would like to say that despite the fact that I disagree with you and your reasoning you’ve won some of my respect with your last two posts. Not because of the lack of flaming but because you’re about the only people who’ve given me the impression that you were at all seriously considering my argument, even if you discarded it out of hand. I say this not out of any desire to score points or sympathy, and you’re free to call me whatever epithets you like, but because its true. I wish you well.
So you judge people by whether they cut slack to your bullshit rather than their qualifications, intelligence, etc? Interesting. Also quite childish. But that doesn't really come as a shock, after your utter bullshit claims to be pro-abortion but anti-Roe-v-Wade. You inadvertently revealed your mindset right there because you clearly think that's how you show you're reasonable: by putting one foot in each camp. In reality, you show you're reasonable by basing your arguments in logic rather than hot air, dipshit.
Finally, as I said before I know this board’s policies. I’d like to compliment you on the fact that I know you won’t be deleting my post. But I also know that’s generally not all you do to “idiots” after you ban them. That being the case let me say right here and now: Bring it on. “Shitcan” me. Put me in the Hall of Shame. Put me in Parting Shots. Write up an entry and put me in your Encyclopedia Moronica complete with a link to this thread. I’m willing to wager that any reasonable person who’s not part of this community that reads this thread will agree that I’m the rational, if not necessarily correct, person in this argument and that you’re a trolling, dishonest little dipshit. I will personally give show this thread to friends and acquaintances just because I know that it will only make me look like a better person in their eyes and make you look like a stupid little dick. Nothing would please me more then to know that you are paying bandwidth for what is essentially a shrine to me owning you, and the fact that you’re too dense and prejudiced to even realize what an idiot you look like only makes it more delicious. My only regret is that I won’t be able to see it, since you’ve made the Hall of Shame members only and I certainly have no intention of re-registering.

Well then. That’s about all there is to say. I really hate to discredit myself by paraphrasing the last words of the infamous Darkstar, but I really can’t find a better way to put it then, “Go ahead, ban me!” Bye. Aloha. Tiān yá hǎi jiǎo, Jiānádàrén。

Oh yeah. One more thing. Mike? U R IDIOT!
Here's a hint, moron. If you are challenged to prove your bullshit claim that the Supreme Court ignores the Constitution, and you can't even be bothered to name the part of the Constitution they've violated, don't pat yourself on the back for your Glorious Victory. All of the handwaving bullshit and rhetorical chicanery in the world won't convince an intelligent observer that you won.

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Face it. You got ass-raped in this debate, you couldn't back up your claims, and all you've done with this grandstanding exit is make yourself look like even more of a moron. You RAN AWAY because you were getting your ass kicked, and shouted "I don't wanna play any more! You guys are mean! Waaaaaaaaa!" as you ran. Well if you're going to walk out of here in a huff, fine. Don't come back.
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