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Darth Wong wrote:
CaptainChewbacca wrote:*Is surprised anyone defended him*

Thanks. NOW can we lock the thread?
No, because your "what kind of sicko thinks kids need to know this stuff" comment is just as fucktarded as it was when you first posted it, and apologist bullshit for it is also fucktarded. Alyrium Denryle has simply become a knee-jerk apologist in recent months and will rabidly defend religious intolerance against criticism for reasons which are unknown to us but probably involve some brat he has a crush on.
Wow, such venom.

The fun part is, you couldnt be farther from the truth. I dont rabidly defend religious intolerance, I just dont think that what was displayed by chewie in this thread meets the standard for religious intolerance. You want religious intolerance, go talk to Phelps, or Robertson, or the head of Focus on the Family, shit, talk to my father who DISOWNED ME. But not thinking that a sex ed pamphlet that encourages high risk sexual behavior (like cruising parks for anonymous sex) is appropriate for 14 year olds before it was found out that it was left on the table mistakenly, well... that just doesnt meet the litmus test for malice againast gay people. Had it been talking about hetersexual sex, I very much doubt his reactioin would be any different.

And I just love the way you cahlk up my basic human decency, like giving people the benefit of the doubt, can be chalked up to having a crush on a religious fundamentalist, your blatant use of ad hominiem attacks is pointless, and if you think they actually offend me, you are mistaken.

When encountering actual fundamentalists, I am the first to challenge them, ask anyone on the board who knows me in person. But guess what, making a istake in wording or what have you, does not make one a fundie, and the way you people act toward a fellow SCIENTIST (CHewie is a geologist last time I checked) in this regard is disgusting. We are on the same side as far as creationism is concerned, he is no fundy by that most basic of litmus tests, so leave him alone. All you are going is creating enemies where you need not have them.
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Alyrium Denryle wrote:Wow, such venom.
And it's totally accurate, fuckwad. You're the imbecile who broke the fucking rules of the forum by completely ignoring a thread subject in order to attack me personally based on my history a while ago: a blatant vendetta/hijack rule violation that is normally an automatic fucking ban. You continue to exist on this forum because I have chosen to allow you to exist, fucktard. I can spew as much venom as I like in your direction, because your existence here is a fucking gift from me. If you don't like it, feel free to complain to the nearest wall, you worthless infantile dipshit.

You have regaled us all with your tales of stupidity and insipid self-absorption for years. First you spammed the forum whining about how you were hopelessly in love with some guy who was straight, then you got all bitter and started whining like a bitch that there's no such thing as love, and then you got it in your head that (just like millions of other self-absorbed, self-pitying wet-behind-the-ears losers like yourself in the past) you could distill love into some kind of chemical reaction and then explain your fantastic discovery to the rest of us fools who laboured in the delusion that our own feelings were real. And then you became a religious apologist, ranting at length about how we're just as unfair to religion as religion is to us because we dare to point out how its claims are full of shit.

The fact that you cannot maintain a consistent outlook on life is not my fucking problem, but the fact that you continue to waste my bandwidth with apologist bullfuckery is. Case in point:
The fun part is, you couldnt be farther from the truth. I dont rabidly defend religious intolerance, I just dont think that what was displayed by chewie in this thread meets the standard for religious intolerance. You want religious intolerance, go talk to Phelps, or Robertson, or the head of Focus on the Family, shit, talk to my father who DISOWNED ME.
Ah yes, this is the religious equivalent of the "real racism is Hitler, not me" racist defense. And just as stupid, too.
But not thinking that a sex ed pamphlet that encourages high risk sexual behavior (like cruising parks for anonymous sex) is appropriate for 14 year olds before it was found out that it was left on the table mistakenly, well... that just doesnt meet the litmus test for malice againast gay people. Had it been talking about hetersexual sex, I very much doubt his reactioin would be any different.
You are full of shit. Most psychologists recommend that you start talking to kids about sex before they are ten years old, moron. Because if you don't, then they'll try to figure it out on their own. And information is not harmful, as long as it is accurate, which the information in that pamphlet was. It may have been tasteless and rude, but the notion that it would actually harm the recipients is pure religious bullfuckery.
And I just love the way you cahlk up my basic human decency, like giving people the benefit of the doubt, can be chalked up to having a crush on a religious fundamentalist, your blatant use of ad hominiem attacks is pointless, and if you think they actually offend me, you are mistaken.
You don't have basic human decency, you little shitstain. You have self-absorption and the delusion that at the tender age of brat + 5, you have life all figured out.
When encountering actual fundamentalists, I am the first to challenge them, ask anyone on the board who knows me in person. But guess what, making a istake in wording or what have you, does not make one a fundie, and the way you people act toward a fellow SCIENTIST (CHewie is a geologist last time I checked) in this regard is disgusting. We are on the same side as far as creationism is concerned, he is no fundy by that most basic of litmus tests, so leave him alone. All you are going is creating enemies where you need not have them.
CaptainChewbacca may be a scientist, but he is also a homophobic retard. He made that very clear a long time ago, and he reaffirmed it here. Your problem is that you think you've figured out some grand secret that if you call yourself a moderate and treat religious homophobes really nicely, you'll bring them around. And then you run around, as per your usual modus operandi, acting as though everyone who hasn't joined you in this grand revelation (much like your previous "revelation" about how love isn't real) are just deluded fools who haven't yet achieved your profound understanding of life. Grow the fuck up, twerp.
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Well, it seems that Alyrium's response to this flame was to send a flurry of PMs to people (other than me) whining about what a big meanie I am and how he's leaving because he can't get away with his self-aggrandizing "look at me I call myself a scientist even though I'm still in school and I've got life all figured out, unlike you people" bullfuckery here without being flamed. Oh noes, I flamed him!

All I can say is "buh bye".
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His transformation was somewhat drastic and anomalous. When I first joined this board he was one of the biggest pinko pseudo-commies around. His behavior during the Pope's death and succession was quite bizarre (although I had been out of the loop for some time at that point).

Not only did he seem to be a political libertarian (*shrug* whatever), he seemed to be socially conservative. Completely out-of-character according to the way I remember him and frankly, for a homosexual atheist and someone who claims to be secular and rational, dishonest.

It's unfortunate, but it's also really, really bizarre.
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Good riddance then. He'd been getting stranger and stranger for a good long while, and his arrogance and superior attitude were really starting to grate on the nerves. I don't mind such an attitude from someone who has the life experience to warrant it and the maturity to know when to apply it, but Aly had neither, and he could never admit it when he was wrong unless he was utterly humiliated first.

I know I can easily be an arrogant bastard at times, but I've no problems admitting mistakes or deferring to someone else who knows better.

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Edi wrote:Good riddance then. He'd been getting stranger and stranger for a good long while, and his arrogance and superior attitude were really starting to grate on the nerves. I don't mind such an attitude from someone who has the life experience to warrant it and the maturity to know when to apply it, but Aly had neither, and he could never admit it when he was wrong unless he was utterly humiliated first.

I know I can easily be an arrogant bastard at times, but I've no problems admitting mistakes or deferring to someone else who knows better.

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The way he dismissed the findings of climatologists and derided their theoretical mechanisms based solely on his own personal authority was simply outrageous; the guy is still an undergrad student for fuck's sake. When you're an undergrad engineer you're actually legally prohibited from calling yourself an "engineer" in any official correspondence until you have your full qualifications. Too bad a similar rule doesn't exist for science.
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Well, if he officially called himself a qualified cell biologist or biomed consultant, he'd be illegally doing so since you need to be registered with national gov't bodies that regulate such professions. It's not unlike in medicine where my mother, an RGN, has to maintain certain standards just to keep practicing.

Of course, Aly seemed to ignore this with youthful gumption.
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Darth Wong wrote:When you're an undergrad engineer you're actually legally prohibited from calling yourself an "engineer" in any official correspondence until you have your full qualifications. Too bad a similar rule doesn't exist for science.
Out of curiosity, are these kinds of rules regarding professional conduct for engineers enforced by a private organization like the American Medical Association, or are they actually enforced by the government?
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About damn time. That kid's more screwed in the head than a skull-fucked corpse. I love how he always took extra-special time out of his day to remind everyone that he's pursuing 2 majors (yeah, watch how fast one of those turns into a minor or just gets dropped altogether), how he's a "scientist" and how he's such a great libertarian because he has a warped view of market realities.

He borders on delusional, and I'll be very surprised if he makes it through university without some sort of serious mental breakdown.
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Chardok wrote::shock:
That makes two of us. Alot of shit came out of that thread.
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For the late comers, what thread is this split from?
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WTF :wtf: ?, is it just me or is there trend of long term members getting arrogant and then getting banned?
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Durandal wrote:He borders on delusional, and I'll be very surprised if he makes it through university without some sort of serious mental breakdown.
You're not suckering me into making that wager. He's got issues and I hope he learns how to deal with them, but I'm afraid it's going to have to be the long, hard way around for Aly. And with the baggage he has, it's a really rough ride. I didn't have that sort of previous weight on me and I almost broke into pieces before I managed to deal with my problems, and that required quitting school.

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Ace Pace wrote:For the late comers, what thread is this split from?
The one titled "Tolerance is Tolerance, but I'm gonna kick some ass!"
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Lord Revan wrote:WTF :wtf: ?, is it just me or is there trend of long term members getting arrogant and then getting banned?
I'm not sure if he actually was banned, of if he just told everyone he was leaving. I suppose we'll know for sure if this thread gets moved to "Parting Shots." But yes, it does seem that the board staff has become a lot less lenient regarding the bullshit pulled by long-term posters who really should've know better.
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GrandMasterTerwynn wrote:
Ace Pace wrote:For the late comers, what thread is this split from?
The one titled "Tolerance is Tolerance, but I'm gonna kick some ass!"
Not to mention the thread number is in the title of this thread.
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Lord Revan wrote:WTF :wtf: ?, is it just me or is there trend of long term members getting arrogant and then getting banned?
No, it isn't just you, LR. The tolerance for out of control behavior by long time members has become significantly less in the past six months or so than what it used to be back in the early days of the board. The rules are the rules and they apply to everyone, and if there are exceptions, they are few and far between and generally reserved for people who predate the board with a long history on ASVS or are otherwise larger than life (Shep is an example of the former and Axis Kast belongs to the latter category). And even then there is no immunity.

It used to be somewhat different when the board was small and everyone knew almost everyone else, but with the increase in size and number of members, that sort of approach is simply not possible if the place is to run in an orderly fashion. Never mind us being guests in Mike's house and here at his sufferance, so there is not much to wonder.

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Alyrium has been banned. He was leaving of his own accord, but he decided to stick around and PM a ton of people. The PM he sent out basically trashed this board and invited people to his. So Mike helped him find the door a little more quickly than he would have on his own. And he also made sure that Alyrium wouldn't come slithering back in.

He was basically on probation anyway. He pissed off Mike by bringing up his personal history and attacking him, but Mike allowed him to stay for some reason. Add to that that he was misrepresenting himself as a "scientist," and you've got another rules infraction. Sending out the PMs while he was on his way out was the last straw. Alyrium managed to evade an outright banning initially, but he just kept being a dick. So now he's gone. We've just made sure he stays gone.
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Now that Alyrium is finally gone, this is being moved over to Parting Shots.
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Alyrium sent a message to RedImperator over AIM last night:
Alyrium Denryle (over AIM) wrote:AIIFHarbinger<!-- (11:47:06 PM)-->: Hey man. I dont know if you are even going to read this or block me or what. But could you deliver a message to DUrandal for me? Could you tell him to look at my posted location(that is on every single one of my posts) where it flat out states that I am a STUDENT. I can stand being banned, but saying that I "misrepresent myself as a scientist" is just fucking low
Apparently, I'm guilty of some sort of grave miscarriage of justice by saying this. But, oh look! Alyrium's full of shit!
Alyrium Denryle wrote:Such is the life and death of any scientist. Even when we win nobel prizes we dont get on the front page...
And even if he does say he's a student at ASU in his location, telling the truth in one venue does not cancel out a lie in another. Notice how he never denied that he's claimed to be a scientist in the past, just that it's okay if he does so long as he tells the truth somewhere else.
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