[ryan8723] Rat bastard frat boy hits and kills grad student

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2005-11-16 09:59pm

no shit brain and as I said in venting it's winter so now I going through my annual recirtification as a bartender in a national park (it's supposed to be every five years but changes above me means that I have to take the safe classes every year.)

I'm even responsible for calling the park's equivalent of dail a ride for them.....

I am really fucking tired of 20 somethings drinkng to get drunk. Drinking to take the edge off is fine, we close before the free bus does it's last drive. But drinking to kill the pain by way of killling everything is just wrong.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2005-11-16 10:39pm

Admiral Valdemar wrote:I think ryan's been educated enough on the specific biochemistry of his drinking habits and repercussions thereof. If there's nothing else worth adding here, I see no reason to carry on with beating the horse into soup.

The sad thing is that his personality type will ignore everything we've said.

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2005-11-16 10:41pm

Darth Wong wrote:
Admiral Valdemar wrote:I think ryan's been educated enough on the specific biochemistry of his drinking habits and repercussions thereof. If there's nothing else worth adding here, I see no reason to carry on with beating the horse into soup.
The sad thing is that his personality type will ignore everything we've said.

Think we can whack him as per PR2 (bragging about illegal activities) if this is shown to be true?

ryan8723 · Post by **ryan8723** » 2005-11-17 11:41am

Rogue 9 wrote:So you're too drunk to get quote tags right, or are you just that stupid?

I was in a rush between classes, and didn't have much time.

ryan8723 · Post by **ryan8723** » 2005-11-17 11:48am

Edi wrote:
ryan8723 wrote:When I say "too drunk," I mean beginning to noticeably lose motor functions (i.e. swaying while standing, stumbling while walking, slurring speech, staring aimlessly, etc.). You can be drunk, yet still have almost complete control over your body. That is what the buzzing/light drunk stage is and that is almost exactly how I get the vast majority of time when I am at the bar.
You really are one stupid shitlicking pigfucker. Even before you have easily visually detectable motor impairment, the alcohol in your system significantly increases reaction time delays. To something on the order of two to three times normal. When you're going at 50 miles an hour or faster, you won't have time to react because by the time your body responds to your thoughts, it's all over.

So why don't you go jump off a skyscraper or something similar and preferably fatal? Because if you carry on as you have, sooner or later you WILL kill someone or maim them for life.

Edi

I understand that jackass that's why I said "too drunk." You can still feel the effects of alcohol without ever experiencing any of those things. That is what I call the buzzing/ light drunk stage.

ryan8723 · Post by **ryan8723** » 2005-11-17 11:50am

Jalinth wrote:
ryan8723 wrote: When I say "too drunk," I mean beginning to noticeably lose motor functions (i.e. swaying while standing, stumbling while walking, slurring speech, staring aimlessly, etc.). You can be drunk, yet still have almost complete control over your body. That is what the buzzing/light drunk stage is and that is almost exactly how I get the vast majority of time when I am at the bar.
Being at the "buzzed" stage does produce impairment. This is the reason some places charge you with impaired driving, with the BAC test simply being one test. Volunteer for one of the tests they do and check your reaction time sober vs not. Major difference. As pedestrian and biker, this could be the difference between you screeching to a halt versus running right through me.

Hopefully I'm never in the same city with you, since I don't want to be around a buzzed driver (even lightly).

If you ever driven past about 10pm at night, then the majority of the drives you see on the road are probably impaired in some way. Most of them are going to be fairly drunk.

ryan8723 · Post by **ryan8723** » 2005-11-17 11:56am

Spyder wrote:
ryan8723 wrote:When I say "too drunk," I mean beginning to noticeably lose motor functions (i.e. swaying while standing, stumbling while walking, slurring speech, staring aimlessly, etc.). You can be drunk, yet still have almost complete control over your body. That is what the buzzing/light drunk stage is and that is almost exactly how I get the vast majority of time when I am at the bar.
The buzzing stage, where suddenly everything's interesting, including conversation and jokes that would otherwise be ignored? By that point you've already got a vastly lower reaction time. I'm almost willing to bet money that while driving home from the bar that you've had the odd "oh shit, was meant to give way to that guy" or "oh whoops, light went red." Probably thought it was perfectly normal as you've no doubt had the ocassional 'whoops' when you're sobre. After all, who hasn't right?

The difference is, you're going to kill someone because drving home is going to require that you react to something and you're going to fail to react to it because the likelyhood that you're going to have one of these 'whoops' moments has just increased by several orders of magnitude because your reaction time will have gone completely to shit.

10 feet tall and indestructable, feels that way doesn't it?

I almost never had those "oh shit" moments as I don't drive on crowded streets and live about 5 minutes from the major bar district right next to my university. I don't really care if you believe me or not, but I really don't have any of those moments. Now, if I were to live more than 30 minutes then I might have them.

Chardok · Post by **Chardok** » 2005-11-17 12:36pm

ryan8723 wrote:If you ever driven past about 10pm at night, then the majority of the drives you see on the road are probably impaired in some way. Most of them are going to be fairly drunk.

I would very much like to see a source for that information. Your rationalization of your drinking is absolutely one microstep away from alcoholism. "I can stop any time I want" Is a CLASSIC red flag. So much so that it's fucking stereotyped and parodied. I don't care if you live 200 feet from the major bar district. If you've had enough to drink to realize you are "slightly" buzzed. You've had too much, fool. You make me physically ill.

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2005-11-17 01:24pm

ryan8723 wrote:
Edi wrote: You really are one stupid shitlicking pigfucker. Even before you have easily visually detectable motor impairment, the alcohol in your system significantly increases reaction time delays. To something on the order of two to three times normal. When you're going at 50 miles an hour or faster, you won't have time to react because by the time your body responds to your thoughts, it's all over.

So why don't you go jump off a skyscraper or something similar and preferably fatal? Because if you carry on as you have, sooner or later you WILL kill someone or maim them for life.

Edi
I understand that jackass that's why I said "too drunk." You can still feel the effects of alcohol without ever experiencing any of those things. That is what I call the buzzing/ light drunk stage.

No, you cannot, you fucking asstard. The effects of alcohol BY DEFINITION encompass impaired reaction time BEFORE you feel 'buzzed'! Go fling yourself off a bridge in wintertime because with your attitude and behavior you WILL kill someone eventually!

ryan8723 wrote:
Jalinth wrote:Being at the "buzzed" stage does produce impairment. This is the reason some places charge you with impaired driving, with the BAC test simply being one test. Volunteer for one of the tests they do and check your reaction time sober vs not. Major difference. As pedestrian and biker, this could be the difference between you screeching to a halt versus running right through me.

Hopefully I'm never in the same city with you, since I don't want to be around a buzzed driver (even lightly).
If you ever driven past about 10pm at night, then the majority of the drives you see on the road are probably impaired in some way. Most of them are going to be fairly drunk.

"Oh, so everybody else is doing it (despite the fact I am ASSuming they're doing it with no evidence whatso-fucking-ever!!) so that makes it OK for me to do it!"

You are a subhuman piece of shit who deserves death by third-degree burns over 75% of your body, but I'll be even more sick and twisted. I hope you SURVIVE getting third-degree burns over 75% of your body. You'll literally be in Hell On Earth for the however many months or years you spend in the Burn Ward.

And no, they won't give a shit how much it hurts either.

ryan8723 wrote:
Spyder wrote:The buzzing stage, where suddenly everything's interesting, including conversation and jokes that would otherwise be ignored? By that point you've already got a vastly lower reaction time. I'm almost willing to bet money that while driving home from the bar that you've had the odd "oh shit, was meant to give way to that guy" or "oh whoops, light went red." Probably thought it was perfectly normal as you've no doubt had the ocassional 'whoops' when you're sobre. After all, who hasn't right?

The difference is, you're going to kill someone because drving home is going to require that you react to something and you're going to fail to react to it because the likelyhood that you're going to have one of these 'whoops' moments has just increased by several orders of magnitude because your reaction time will have gone completely to shit.

10 feet tall and indestructable, feels that way doesn't it?
I almost never had those "oh shit" moments as I don't drive on crowded streets and live about 5 minutes from the major bar district right next to my university. I don't really care if you believe me or not, but I really don't have any of those moments. Now, if I were to live more than 30 minutes then I might have them.

All it takes is getting into the car and starting the engine, and you are A> perfectly capable of killing or maiming someone horribly for life, and B> GUILTY of DUI.

I sincerely hope you get arrested, and with the quickness!

Troll.

Flakin · Post by **Flakin** » 2005-11-17 01:36pm

Ryan, you honestly remind me of Derek Kieper. I just wonder if you'll meet the same sticky end that he did. His personal crusade was that "I can choose not to wear my seatbelt!" yours is "I can drive just fine with a buzz!". Both defy logic and basic human rationality.

Your blind insistance on 'I know what I'm doing!' is worth precisely zilch when your impaired reaction time leads you ploughing into a tree. Or worse, another person.

Morilore · Post by **Morilore** » 2005-11-17 01:59pm

Alcoholic pigfucker wrote:I understand that jackass that's why I said "too drunk." You can still feel the effects of alcohol without ever experiencing any of those things. That is what I call the buzzing/ light drunk stage.

Because you know better than the scientists and doctors who make a living studying this shit.

If you ever driven past about 10pm at night, then the majority of the drives you see on the road are probably impaired in some way. Most of them are going to be fairly drunk.

I defy you to produce evidence of this.

I almost never had those "oh shit" moments as I don't drive on crowded streets and live about 5 minutes from the major bar district right next to my university. I don't really care if you believe me or not, but I really don't have any of those moments. Now, if I were to live more than 30 minutes then I might have them.

Five minutes away is more than far enough to fuck up.

Post by **Dalton** » 2005-11-17 02:13pm

Do we actually have someone here who supports DUI?

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2005-11-17 02:20pm

Dalton wrote:Do we actually have someone here who supports DUI?

*SNERK!* That's the funniest thing I've read all day!!

MishaMcBride · Post by **MishaMcBride** » 2005-11-17 02:34pm

ryan8723 wrote:At my university, Texas A&M

Please, go outside and get hit by a train. I would like not to be ran over by your drunk ass while I'm attending AggieCon next year. Thanks!

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2005-11-17 02:39pm

MishaMcBride wrote:
ryan8723 wrote:At my university, Texas A&M
Please, go outside and get hit by a train. I would like not to be ran over by your drunk ass while I'm attending AggieCon next year. Thanks!

Seconded. I live in San Antonio, but what's to stop this jackass from visiting my city and I'm the unlucky bastard he turns into a greasy red smear on the highway with his SUV?

In fact, Ryan, please go fill your SUV's tank fulla gas, fill your entire cargo bay with as many full gasoline cans as possible, light a huge fat slow-burning cigar, and straddle the railroad tracks a minute before the Fireball Express comes screaming through.

Post by **Surlethe** » 2005-11-17 03:27pm

ryan8723 wrote:I almost never had those "oh shit" moments as I don't drive on crowded streets and live about 5 minutes from the major bar district right next to my university. I don't really care if you believe me or not, but I really don't have any of those moments. Now, if I were to live more than 30 minutes then I might have them.

So you concede you're too drunk to drive, and then you insist it's perfectly fine to do so?!

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2005-11-17 04:10pm

hey I'm a bartender that guy just sounds like the kind of coustomer I want bounced out on his ass. period end of question. I said END OF QUESTION!

Uraniun235 · Post by **Uraniun235** » 2005-11-17 04:13pm

ryan8723 wrote:I understand that jackass that's why I said "too drunk." You can still feel the effects of alcohol without ever experiencing any of those things. That is what I call the buzzing/ light drunk stage.

ANY DEGREE OF INTOXICATION WHILE DRIVING A MOTOR VEHICLE IS UNACCEPTABLE.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2005-11-17 04:17pm

ryan8723 wrote:I almost never had those "oh shit" moments as I don't drive on crowded streets and live about 5 minutes from the major bar district right next to my university. I don't really care if you believe me or not, but I really don't have any of those moments. Now, if I were to live more than 30 minutes then I might have them.

You're a walking advertisement for random spot-checks. Now you're arguing that it's OK because it's a short drive. That doesn't disprove the argument that you're an impaired driver, you stupid fucking asshole.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2005-11-17 04:18pm

yeah, those are the one who want to argue with me when I cut them off and get them a DD.

look I'm the guy being a professional about this shit. NO!

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2005-11-17 04:20pm

Darth Wong wrote:
ryan8723 wrote:I almost never had those "oh shit" moments as I don't drive on crowded streets and live about 5 minutes from the major bar district right next to my university. I don't really care if you believe me or not, but I really don't have any of those moments. Now, if I were to live more than 30 minutes then I might have them.
You're a walking advertisement for random spot-checks. Now you're arguing that it's OK because it's a short drive. That doesn't disprove the argument that you're an impaired driver, you stupid fucking asshole.

Plus it proves he's an asshole, Darth.

That NOS Guy · Post by **That NOS Guy** » 2005-11-17 04:27pm

If you live no more then 5 minues away, why drive? Or is it that you have a t3h awesome driving skills when drunk? It says something when you're prepared to risk so much over so little.

Bloody tart.

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2005-11-17 04:39pm

The Yosemite Bear wrote:yeah, those are the one who want to argue with me when I cut them off and get them a DD. look I'm the guy being a professional about this shit. NO!

I propose a toast, Bear...

To a long healthy bartending career for you, and a short life for Ryan8723.

>KLINK!<

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2005-11-17 04:56pm

god what is this fucking parodox about this country. We let people drive too young, we forbid the use of alcohol until they are 21, and we have loose PD/DUI laws but fuck it, people just shouldn't drive. I maybe know two people who are better drivers at .5 then they are cold sober. And both of them are maniacs behind the wheel at any condition. (feel really sorry for me, I'm dating one of those maniacs)...

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2005-11-17 05:49pm

I see a lot of backpedaling trying to justify driving under the influence of a well known fucker-up of lives. For five minutes, you are in control of a very lethal weapon. I don't see how distance or time has any validity here given you can easily kill someone backing out of your drive as you can ramming them on the motorway.

We do not care if you can or cannot feel the "buzz" of alcohol. What we most certainly do care about is whether you intend on continuing this pathetic habit in the future. Because I don't think you realise, ryan, just what a person has to go through when they hear someone they've known all their life has been killed because some kid with a licence to drive thought it was also a licence to be a prick too.

I imagine a great many people are told the facts of life this way and even see the graphic ads, hear of the horrible sob stories and see the people who have lost on television. It still doesn't sink in, and only gets a momentary "shit, that's bad" reaction, much like when the news shows the latest scenes from Africa. Then they go ahead with their daily lives. The "it'll never happen to me" mindset has probably claimed more lives than war, so don't fall into that category.