tezunegari wrote: ↑
I don't really know why I quoted my self back there... I think I wanted to edit my post and hit the quote button instead. Apologies for that.
FancyDarcy wrote: ↑
tezunegari wrote: ↑
Because your scenario is fundamentally flawed most likely because you have no real understanding of the Star Trek Franchise?
If it happens all the time in Star Trek you might want to watch the episodes where it happens and make notes about how they identified that something is wrong and how they stopped it.
So, SDN.et's version of Star Trek is one where all the major characters have somehow all the meta knowledge of everything that has happened either before or after their time? They don't know all of their mistakes yet, because the actual characters, Picard, Kirk, Data and the rest haven't actually watched the Star Trek Franchise and therefore haven't made those mistakes yet.
I mean, what about the Man Trap? In that episode, a changeling manages to absorb several crew members and transform into a redshirt, a generic engineer and even the infamous CMO MR. Bones McCoy and nobody notices him acting funny until they see him trying to absorb Mr. Bones in his quarters.
Even then, nobofy calls for a large security force and Kirk rushes in and gets disarmed and McCoy turns traitor or is mind controlled and the changeling VERY NEARLY absorbs Captain Kirk before McCoy suddenly weans off the mind control and shoots the changing. But just think... Spock, Kirk and the traitorous McCoy were the only people aware of the changeling.
Just imagine if McCoy Did Not snap out of it and instead shut his eyes and looked away as the changeling absorbed Kirk, then he'd probably absorb Spock or attempt to seduce him as his slave like McCoy, or simply transform into Kirk and have him arrested.
The Man Trap was probably one of the most dangerous episodes of a single, non-omnipotent, Klingon or Borg threat Kirk faced. Even the works Picard and Riker faced were a hivemind like the Borg and not an individual enemy. Pound for pound of flesh, the buffalo changeling was definitely one of the most dangerous threats to the Enterprise.
ThanksIf McCoy hadn't fired, excluding any sudden plot devices, that would have been the end of the Kirk crew and the beginning of a new, Conspiracy-like episode for Picard and Riker to investigate, perhaps.
Yes the Salt Vampire nearly killed Kirk and only failed because it stopped using its hypnotic projection preventing McCoy to perceive Kirk suffering.
You know... that thing was supposed to be dangerous.
If not for that little mistake it might have won.
That's how you create tension in the episode.
But it took them less than a day to identify an intruder and stop it in that episode... the stardate only changes in the fractions part which usually implies time instead of date. The total body count of the Salt Vampire is 5. Darnell, Sturgeon and Green on the planet, Barnhart and Crater on the ship.
So... a single day to stop an intruder that can look like anyone, has a hypnotic projection that enthralls people to trust and/or assist the salt vampire or forget the last few seconds.
IMO not really a point in your favor.
And the criticism you get from SD.net comes from the contrived situation you created.
Simplify your infiltration plan.
Give a reason for why the Syndicate wants to infiltrate and damage Starfleet.
Have a reason for the Operative to be loyal to the Syndicate beyond "He's programmed to be angry at Starfleet".
And you would want to minimize anything that might identify your Syndicate Goon as such.
(The same reason why the Section 31 black-badge from Discovery is a bad joke.)
Yeah, the editing function on this website is broken and awful. Why is there a time limit, it's v only there to inspire fear and panic as you try to make enough "[/quote]"s so that your post doesn't appear as one giant quote which makes a messy OP filled with endquotes before the two or five minute editing window disappears. Often I run out of time to edit my post to make it look worker and sensible and it's just a shitty mess.
The only reason the buffalo changeling didn't win was because it wasn't too smart in it's alternate forms for some reason, instead of asking for the salt shaker it just drooled and slobbered at everyone and wandered around looking for an isolated person on their own. It couldn't have run out of salt, because there were still a couple of salt pills on the planet and it had absorbed three people, even if it got more salt from tablets than people, it could have just taken some salt pills along with it.
If the changeling didn't either act like a Moran on the Enterprise or run out of salt to power it's mindslave beam, if only it had carried some salt pills in it's pocket or asked one of the lovely ladies nicely for some delicious salt instead of drooling and groping, it probably wouldn't have run out of salt to power it's enthralling beam and McCoy wouldn't have shot it, and it would have absorbed Kirk, and probably enthralled Spock and McCoy and asked McCoy for a reliable supply of salt, and then it would have absorbed or enthralled the rest of the crew.
The only reason it was caught, was because it wasn't too competent when it transformed, for some reason. Therefore it wasn't the Enterprise crew being very competent, it was simply the 'ling being incompetent.
That's how the antagonism system works in TG SS13, though. You get to be a traitor, you get to run around and kill people for no reason, it's a low rolepkay server, you can just start boombing and shooting people out of the blue if you're a traitor antagonist.
The reason the Syndicate attacked the Enterprise in this manner was because Enterprise is already a fully staffed ship, so it's unlikely for any fresh recruits to be arriving, and the infamous Kirk was piloting the ship, who everyone, the Klingons for example want to claim his head for their personal trophy.
I thought this would be better received than my last thread with the Ishimura and the Enterprise. A man, with good knowledge of the layout, security systems, engineering functions of the ship suddenly it's a traitor. I'd imagine such a person would be capable of causing a great deal of damage. I thought it would be interesting. How would Kirk out muscle an emagged Data? How would Guian warn the command deck about a strange man decapitating all her patrons before it's too late? How would Redshirt Security respond to a man karate chopping their necks while their phasers set to DESTROY bounce garmlesdoy off?
I mean, the obscure species poster above mentions to provide a backstory for obscure species like space station 13, so I did that, so people would be familiarized.