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Re: Alien Covenant

Postby LadyTevar » 2017-05-17 02:18am

One joke I've heard is that Ridley Scott got the plotlines of "Blade Runner" mixed up with Promie and Covenant. David's little beef with his 'dad', his treatment of the humans, etc.

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Re: Alien Covenant

Postby Shroom Man 777 » 2017-05-17 11:22am

Joun_Lord wrote:But we got the answer and it sucks, same with the answer of who the Space Jockeys were. Not some completely alien creature or eldritch abomination, nah just a bunch of Shaq sized pale Mark Strong looking humans, thats fucking it.


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Re: Alien Covenant

Postby Khaat » 2017-05-17 12:06pm

Q99 wrote:Maybe the reason all the corporate people in the other movies are so willing to participate in get-the-xenomorph plan that gets them killed is they're a product of this negative eugenics programs whereas space haulers and prisoners and space marines are largely outside of it.

Or it's a commentary on the presumption of "safe" exceptionalism in society - they act stupid because their culture has shielded them from consequences of significance. The "truck drivers" on the Nostromo actually live with actual immediate, potentially deadly consequences, Burke and Weyland (& academics) personally never did.

And "blinded by arrogance" is a running theme: Burke thought he'd get off LV426 with alien-impregnated Ripley and Jordan with time to clean it up later, just as Weyland expected "come to me, my child!" from the Engineers.

Hells, in Prometheus, David specifically asked, "How far would you go to get your answers?" before infecting Charlie. Charlie took that for hyperbole, rather than the direct question he should now (after returning from an alien ship, with alien life on board) realistically expect it to be - discounting all the time he spent querying David about androids. At least Charlie was drunk at the time.

I don't think this carries through for AvP or Resurrection, which seemed to be horror movies with the standard tropes, though there were instances of presumption of personal immunity (even among some of the "monsters"). Some of these were rightfully violated, like the love interest in AvPR getting killed - it is a monster movie!
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Re: Alien Covenant

Postby JI_Joe84 » 2017-05-21 11:46pm

I finally got to see it last Friday. I kind of liked it, kinda saw where David was going especially at the last just kinda has me wondering cause the guy looked like the other David,what was his name?, How did he have time to make himself look exactly like him? Did he download​ his self into the other David?
I was kind of glad when the captain got a facehugger. The others not so much, except the idiot that saw alien puff balls and decided to fuck with them, I mean I know being on a alien planet with vegetation and breathable air would be incredible but you would expect some common sense. You can't just go romping around will nilly and not expect some kind of microbial infection trouble. Jeezus..

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Re: Alien Covenant

Postby Q99 » 2017-05-22 01:25am

Alien 1 had quarantine procedure, they just broke it after Dallas seemed fine and the alien was dead. It'd be interesting to see an alien movie where quarantine was 100% followed...

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Re: Alien Covenant

Postby Darth Nostril » 2017-05-22 02:29am

Q99 wrote:Alien 1 had quarantine procedure, they just broke it after Dallas seemed fine and the alien was dead. It'd be interesting to see an alien movie where quarantine was 100% followed...

You mean Kane (John Hurt) who went into the alien derelict and wound up with the facehugger on him. Dallas was the captain of the ship who went into the air ducts to flush the alien out with a flamethrower.
Also quarantine procedure was not followed at all, the android, Ash, deliberately broke procedure to let the infected crewmember on board. (As per his secret programming - crew expendable.)
After that it lied about Kane's condition, lied about the medi-scan results and did everything it could to keep the crew in the dark about the situation.

If it hadn't been for the reprogrammed android then Ripley would have got her way, quarantine procedures would have been followed and the whole cluster fuck would never have happened.
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Re: Alien Covenant

Postby Q99 » 2017-05-22 05:47am

Been way too long since I watched that, thanks ^^

Anyway, yea- key point, they had a way to short circuit the whole chain of events, it was just circumvented.

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Re: Alien Covenant

Postby Raesene » 2017-05-23 03:51pm

Left the cinema at the time the first alien emerged out of the back of the crewman.

Kept away from spoilers until I watched it, didn't keep me interested in anything the characters were going to do (even after seeing them find Shaw's dogtag and picture) and I wasn't interested in a rehash of aliens ripping humans to pieces.
Reading through the thread now I don't think I missed anything except more stupid potential colonists who an hour or so after landing on a foreign planet start smoking after walking around without any idea about the planets ecosphere or perform similar acts.

At least I got to see the Star Wars trailer again on the big screen.

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