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Re: A fun SF webcomic- Star Power

Postby Zixinus » 2016-12-18 11:37am

So Danica found someone to talk to. Someone who can also give her answers that Mitch couldn't or hadn't. She's lucky that way.

I'm sure that someone in Galactic Defense has plans for Danica, along with a whole slew of other people. What she'll need is someone that act as a buffer. She'll also have to figure out what exactly she will do with her powers now and she will have to stick with that.

Q99: I tried explaining in different ways. Banalities about the benefits of dancing do not fit into discussion about evolution or innate behavior. Neither is just blindly reciting kid's level biology. I'm done explaining why. If someone else feels that I'm being unclear, I'd like to know how.
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Re: A fun SF webcomic- Star Power

Postby Q99 » 2016-12-20 05:49am

Zixinus wrote:Q99: I tried explaining in different ways. Banalities about the benefits of dancing do not fit into discussion about evolution or innate behavior. Neither is just blindly reciting kid's level biology. I'm done explaining why. If someone else feels that I'm being unclear, I'd like to know how.


It comes across to me that you want complex answers when what you're asking is a question with simple answers. Call 'em banal or kids level all you want, that doesn't change that sometimes the banal, kids-level answer is both correct and the best answer we got at the moment, and you, I will note, are not giving us a specific reason *why* it can't be the simple, straightforward answer (so this, specifically, would be the point where I feel you're being unclear, what your specific objections are rather than them being too straightforward).

"Why does a species have a positive trait that aids survival?" is a question that answers itself in the general sense, but not in specifics, and we don't have the specifics. So you get the general answer. There's nothing unbelievable about a species all having a beneficial trait (which was your original complaint that set off this line of discussion). If you have a specific objection to that, you can raise it, but if your objection is lack of detail or the specific route, then that can only get an 'insufficient information,' just like the evolutionary history of many real life traits entire species have. Evolution has very detail and interesting reasons for why stuff happens, but they are not always obviously apparent whether in real life or fiction.

Any questions or specific objections?

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Re: A fun SF webcomic- Star Power

Postby Zixinus » 2016-12-20 07:18am

Any questions or specific objections?


I stopped arguing with you. I didn't agree or disagree with anything, I just stopped wasting my time.

If with better understanding of biology wants to comment, I'd be happy to read it.
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Re: A fun SF webcomic- Star Power

Postby Q99 » 2016-12-21 05:42pm

Well, you got the answer to what you asked, if not what you wanted. I like a good discussion about biology and I'm sorry I couldn't provide one here, but there's not much to go into here beyond the above.

Anyway, that diversion aside, the psi-cops of the recent chapters are interesting.

They appear to simply be... highly trained psychologists good at reading people. And apparently heroic ones, at that! (though, the 'heroic' part can hardly be confirmed at this point, but so far it looks that way). Not a common thing to see in fiction.

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Re: A fun SF webcomic- Star Power

Postby Zixinus » 2016-12-23 05:23am

I am willing to be that the Traveler is an explorer ship of some kind, like the USS Enterprise. Very famous and a big deal, which is why the Security Chief is displeased with it coming because it means a big circus.
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Re: A fun SF webcomic- Star Power

Postby Q99 » 2016-12-25 10:00pm

Zixinus wrote:I am willing to be that the Traveler is an explorer ship of some kind, like the USS Enterprise. Very famous and a big deal, which is why the Security Chief is displeased with it coming because it means a big circus.


Oh, good thinking. At first I was thinking it was a person- a unique alien or something, but yea, it's probably *the* ship.

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Re: A fun SF webcomic- Star Power

Postby Zixinus » 2016-12-26 03:40pm

Current strip: Interesting argument but I think not quite true. Danica responded surprisingly well while under pressure (maybe extra programming in her as part of her being a Sentinel?). Plus, there is the problem that the singular source of information about the galaxy outside the Millenium Federation is from the Countess. She is an unreliable narrator, possibly multiple levels as she has shown capacity for self-delusion.

It is rather disturbing that the guy can order a ship about, especially a high-profile one. It is also a little disturbing that he can get plenty of information about Danica so easily. I wonder whether he's a front-man for some deeper intelligence op.

Also, quite frankly, the evaluation is rather premature. He had rather exhaustive talks with her, yes, but it takes time for more deeper aspects of character to come out as well as running more in-depth tests.

Oh, and just noticed that the guy has a Hungarian surname. Polgar = polgár, meaning citizen, middle-class person.
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Re: A fun SF webcomic- Star Power

Postby Zixinus » 2016-12-26 04:10pm

A thought in favor of Agent Polgar: the whole "beep beep, I'm suddenly acting like a computer by announcing my installation progress beep beep" thing Danica has going right now? Maybe it is best to keep a high-profile ship away from that until things become clearer.

Another thought: maybe this is not his actual evaluation. Maybe this is a ploy to "toughen up" Danica by challenging her. As well as the beginning move of an elaborate mindgame where the M. Federation exploits Danica.

But also? Danica being worried about bearing the full weight of responsibilities she has as a Sentinel may be a sign that she is worthy of it simply because she recognizes the fact.
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Re: A fun SF webcomic- Star Power

Postby Q99 » 2016-12-27 08:13am

Zixinus wrote:Another thought: maybe this is not his actual evaluation. Maybe this is a ploy to "toughen up" Danica by challenging her. As well as the beginning move of an elaborate mindgame where the M. Federation exploits Danica.


Yea. He's a Psi-cop. He's often been very forward, but it could go either way, couldn't it?

But also? Danica being worried about bearing the full weight of responsibilities she has as a Sentinel may be a sign that she is worthy of it simply because she recognizes the fact.


Right.

She's got two evaluators here, too. The one she just found out about, and the Legionnaire, who she still doesn't realize is judging her. They may have somewhat different criteria.

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Re: A fun SF webcomic- Star Power

Postby Zixinus » 2016-12-27 09:56am

The thing is, that a psychological evaluation is only a supporting intelligence role unless the psychologist is actually doing the manipulating. Otherwise it would make little sense as to why they'd send one guy instead of, you know, a team of medical staff to evaluate Danica.
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Re: A fun SF webcomic- Star Power

Postby Zixinus » 2016-12-27 10:21am

Ghetto edit: as for Old Tom, I think he is more of a secret fail-safe in the scheme of Star Powered Sentinels than a real judge. In any scheme where you give out awesome, Clarktech-like power to individuals, you always want a system in place to prevent abuse of that power. In more "normal" situations, that would mean fellow Sentinels that would police each other. Since that is out, that means you have someone or something that can hurt a Sentinel and have an opportunity to do it, like Old Tom acting as gate-guardian.
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Re: A fun SF webcomic- Star Power

Postby Zixinus » 2016-12-28 09:39am

Huh, Quincy is surprised. Either this is: a, an honest reaction due to his premature evaluation as I suggested or b, he's acting and this was the reaction he was hoping for. Or c, he honestly is surprised because this aspect of her is genuinely outside what his expertise would suggest she has.
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Re: A fun SF webcomic- Star Power

Postby Q99 » 2016-12-28 06:39pm

Zixinus wrote:Huh, Quincy is surprised. Either this is: a, an honest reaction due to his premature evaluation as I suggested or b, he's acting and this was the reaction he was hoping for. Or c, he honestly is surprised because this aspect of her is genuinely outside what his expertise would suggest she has.


Yea, I wasn't expecting his surprise either.

I do note of Danica, whatever her initial reaction to the Traveler, she's now focused on determination/practicalities, it seems. She was looking to have a big reaction when the Chief mentioned it, now she's "I'm getting ready."

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Re: A fun SF webcomic- Star Power

Postby Q99 » 2016-12-30 06:42am

And that answers that. I think that also helps explain why people don't like Psi-Cops.

Now just to find out what the traveler is...

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Re: A fun SF webcomic- Star Power

Postby Q99 » 2017-01-23 03:46pm

Ok, This Ship has *got* to be the Traveler.

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Re: A fun SF webcomic- Star Power

Postby Zixinus » 2017-03-01 11:26am

Well, that is one way to get rid of a potentially massive problem quickly. And also a good way to get into a lot of trouble very quickly.
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Re: A fun SF webcomic- Star Power

Postby Q99 » 2017-03-01 04:39pm

Zixinus wrote:Well, that is one way to get rid of a potentially massive problem quickly. And also a good way to get into a lot of trouble very quickly.


Oh yes :)

Btw, I had a conversation with the author at a convention. We talked about how there'd be nothing at the destination, it'd be all a big commentary on the bleak emptiness of space, and there'd be five issues with no dialog in the style of a French art film.

We... may not have been entirely serious.

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Re: A fun SF webcomic- Star Power

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Re: A fun SF webcomic- Star Power

Postby Zixinus » 2017-03-13 12:33pm

To be fair, one thing Star Trek sort-of showed is that you can have a humanoid body but an alien mind.

Not that of course this isn't an auspicious start of meddling it up: it would have been wiser to avoid attention until she knows more of what's going on. But she could have hardly seen these people coming in while diving at probably near-supersonic speeds.
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Re: A fun SF webcomic- Star Power

Postby Q99 » 2017-03-15 06:19pm

Things you don't want to learn under a minute into first contact: What color their blood is via practical demonstration.


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