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SGU 2x2 Aftermath

Post by dragon » 2010-10-06 08:19am

What no post yet jeesh people are slow.

Can't belive Col Young mercey killed his own men. Previews for next week looks very promosing.
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Re: SGU 2x2 Aftermath

Post by Zac Naloen » 2010-10-06 08:35am

These threads were always started by necron lord who seems absent...

Anyway, Strong ep I thought. What do you think was Rush losing it?

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Re: SGU 2x2 Aftermath

Post by dragon » 2010-10-06 08:47am

Is it visions or hallucinations? It look like Riley was only pinned at the legs if that was so they could have used a tourniqute or was he pinned at the waist.
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Re: SGU 2x2 Aftermath

Post by Temujin » 2010-10-06 09:10am

dragon wrote:What no post yet jeesh people are slow.
I considered making a thread, but wasn't sure if there was still that much interest.
dragon wrote:It look like Riley was only pinned at the legs if that was so they could have used a tourniqute or was he pinned at the waist.
I don't recall; but they only have bare bones medical facilities and TJ is only a medic. Even using the stones she probably figured they'd just be sentencing him to an agonizingly slow but certain death.

Also, I kinda missed something, but didn't they send at least some members of the LA thru the gate to the planet?
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Re: SGU 2x2 Aftermath

Post by dragon » 2010-10-06 09:12am

Yeah they did at the very end.
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Post by Zac Naloen » 2010-10-06 09:17am

Look like he was pinned at the waist to me, and if it's true that was the only thing keeping him from bleeding out I question whether they could have actually got him back to the gate in time anyway.

I guess we'll be seeing some attempts repair the spare shuttle in time, or they are just going to have to make do without for now as that one was completely toast.

Supplies are constant uphill struggle for these guys aren't they?
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Re: SGU 2x2 Aftermath

Post by Kodiak » 2010-10-06 02:06pm

Zac Naloen wrote:Look like he was pinned at the waist to me, and if it's true that was the only thing keeping him from bleeding out I question whether they could have actually got him back to the gate in time anyway.

I guess we'll be seeing some attempts repair the spare shuttle in time, or they are just going to have to make do without for now as that one was completely toast.

Supplies are constant uphill struggle for these guys aren't they?
Well from the "Next Week Teaser" Spoiler
It looks like they're going find a "Destiny"-class object or craft of some sort and I wouldn't be surprised if they managed to get spares, supplies, etc. Heck, Destiny could have a shuttle bay somewhere that they just haven't found yet- IIRC Atlantis had a full complement of Puddle Jumpers so extra shuttles aren't impossible
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Re: SGU 2x2 Aftermath

Post by Darksider » 2010-10-06 06:41pm

upon watching this episode I can't help but think that that is NOT how you mercy kill someone!

Wouldn't it have been faster for Young to draw his sidearm and shoot the poor bastard in the head?
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Post by adam_grif » 2010-10-06 09:03pm

Darksider wrote:upon watching this episode I can't help but think that that is NOT how you mercy kill someone!

Wouldn't it have been faster for Young to draw his sidearm and shoot the poor bastard in the head?
It's pretty clear from the scene that they are deliberately avoiding using the gun because then it would seem like Young just killed him so he didn't have to help or wait with him. The guy even says as much: "I'd ask for your gun but then they'd think you did it."

The choking would obviously show up from an autopsy or something but that's pretty unlikely to happen, the others just think he died from his wounds.
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Re: SGU 2x2 Aftermath

Post by CaptainChewbacca » 2010-10-06 09:36pm

I think the killing the way he did it was more personal, also. Its easy to shoot a man in the head, but to smother him to death takes time and care. Its not a callous act.
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Re: SGU 2x2 Aftermath

Post by Themightytom » 2010-10-06 10:20pm

Zac Naloen wrote:These threads were always started by necron lord who seems absent...

Anyway, Strong ep I thought. What do you think was Rush losing it?

Not the first person to have visions...
I was chuckling when Rush sneered at the mention of Young and said "The man's mentally unstable"
Yeah you're talking to the hallucination of an emergent personality jackass...
Darksider wrote:upon watching this episode I can't help but think that that is NOT how you mercy kill someone!

Wouldn't it have been faster for Young to draw his sidearm and shoot the poor bastard in the head?
Riley didn't want everyone to blame Young, they already had that episode.

I am pretty sure TJ knew from the way she clenched her jaw, and she would have known she had a stable patient when she left and that something happened.

Camille also saw him start to choke the LA guy too, Telford and she are already making alliances.

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Scott's uncertainty about blowing the rocks away from the stargate was awesome, and I like that Eli was portrayed as rattled and mostly useless.

There is a clue in the lucian Alliance's beliefs about Destiny but I'm not sure what it is.

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Re: SGU 2x2 Aftermath

Post by dragon » 2010-10-07 08:24am

Themightytom wrote:
Zac Naloen wrote:These threads were always started by necron lord who seems absent...

Anyway, Strong ep I thought. What do you think was Rush losing it?

Not the first person to have visions...
I was chuckling when Rush sneered at the mention of Young and said "The man's mentally unstable"
Yeah you're talking to the hallucination of an emergent personality jackass...
Darksider wrote:upon watching this episode I can't help but think that that is NOT how you mercy kill someone!

Wouldn't it have been faster for Young to draw his sidearm and shoot the poor bastard in the head?
Riley didn't want everyone to blame Young, they already had that episode.

I am pretty sure TJ knew from the way she clenched her jaw, and she would have known she had a stable patient when she left and that something happened.

Camille also saw him start to choke the LA guy too, Telford and she are already making alliances.

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Fuck you Grear for being the one to find the Stargate and really drawing it out so everyone knew it. Though that was pretty hilarious.

Scott's uncertainty about blowing the rocks away from the stargate was awesome, and I like that Eli was portrayed as rattled and mostly useless.

There is a clue in the lucian Alliance's beliefs about Destiny but I'm not sure what it is.

Mentally unstable people have a hard time realising that they are the ones that are the ones that are unstable they tend to say everyone else is.

But yeah the debate over the C4 near the stargate was nice touch. Especially since we know what happened when Col O'Neill placed the C4 on the stargate onboard that go'auld pyramid.
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Re: SGU 2x2 Aftermath

Post by Siege » 2010-10-07 11:51am

Great episode, far better than the season opener. Weirdly enough I rather liked how understated Rush' discovery of the control room was: he just walks up, punches in a code (that came to him in a dream?) and behold! The bridge pops out. I half expected the guys on the shuttle to see it, but I suppose they flew off in the wrong direction to notice anything had changed.

There are moments though I think that Young is sort of a Janeway-as-portrayed-by-Chuck: you never know who he's going to kill this episode! He sure had his reasons, but still... He left Rush on that planet, he vacuumed Telford, he cracked a guy's skull on the floor, and now he's suffocated one of his own crew. I'm with Rush when he says the man is mentally unstable and quite possibly unfit for command. 'Course Rush is a monumental ass himself, but he's still my favourite character on the show so far.

I do kind of hate the show for the "We're coming up on an object!" "GASP!" "WHAT COULD IT BE!?" [CREDITS] bit at the end.
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Re: SGU 2x2 Aftermath

Post by Captain Seafort » 2010-10-07 01:10pm

Siege wrote:Great episode, far better than the season opener. Weirdly enough I rather liked how understated Rush' discovery of the control room was: he just walks up, punches in a code (that came to him in a dream?) and behold! The bridge pops out.
I got the impression that he found the bridge quite a while ago - I think either he or one of his hallucinations/ship-induced-visions/Ancients said something along the lines of him having been working through the controls to figure out what they did for some time.
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Re: SGU 2x2 Aftermath

Post by Themightytom » 2010-10-07 01:20pm

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Siege wrote:Great episode, far better than the season opener. Weirdly enough I rather liked how understated Rush' discovery of the control room was: he just walks up, punches in a code (that came to him in a dream?) and behold! The bridge pops out.
I got the impression that he found the bridge quite a while ago - I think either he or one of his hallucinations/ship-induced-visions/Ancients said something along the lines of him having been working through the controls to figure out what they did for some time.
Well he was running a search program that apparently the other scientists misread as an error, and have been resetting. That program could have been a schematic to get to the bridge, it could have been a code to punch into the elevator that goes everywhere, or it could have been a door opening command, but I really don't think he'd ever been in that room before, what with the lights coming on, the stroking of the command chairs armrest and the
COMPLETE INDIFFERENCE TO IT WHEN THE LUCIAN ALLIANCE TOOK OVER?

After transferring command codes he would have said "Excuse me everybody I have to... take a dump...
::cue sprinting down a hallway to activate the bridge and restore command functions::

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Re: SGU 2x2 Aftermath

Post by Temujin » 2010-10-07 01:33pm

He might have stumbled upon something when they busy trying to deal with the LA, but didn't have the time and/or freedom of movement to fully check it out. Or maybe something Ely did when he accessed that remote console raised a red flag somewhere on Rush's console.
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Post by Zac Naloen » 2010-10-07 01:59pm

From the expression on his face, the almost pensive nature with which he entered the code and then the way the air breezed out of the room when he opened the door, I think that was his first time in the bridge.
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Post by Zac Naloen » 2010-10-07 02:04pm

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Siege wrote:Great episode, far better than the season opener. Weirdly enough I rather liked how understated Rush' discovery of the control room was: he just walks up, punches in a code (that came to him in a dream?) and behold! The bridge pops out.
I got the impression that he found the bridge quite a while ago - I think either he or one of his hallucinations/ship-induced-visions/Ancients said something along the lines of him having been working through the controls to figure out what they did for some time.
Well he was running a search program that apparently the other scientists misread as an error, and have been resetting. That program could have been a schematic to get to the bridge, it could have been a code to punch into the elevator that goes everywhere, or it could have been a door opening command, but I really don't think he'd ever been in that room before, what with the lights coming on, the stroking of the command chairs armrest and the
COMPLETE INDIFFERENCE TO IT WHEN THE LUCIAN ALLIANCE TOOK OVER?

After transferring command codes he would have said "Excuse me everybody I have to... take a dump...
::cue sprinting down a hallway to activate the bridge and restore command functions::
Surely it was the code to the master key of the ships systems? He found the key in Human, he just needed to crunch the numbers which is what his code was doing. It also happened to be crashing the control consoles at the same time.. or looking like it had.
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Post by Siege » 2010-10-07 02:33pm

Ah, so that was what the crash Dr. Park was looking into was all about. I hadn't made that connection yet. Yes, it makes sense that some program of his spat out an answer, as Rush made a beeline for the command deck right after that -- presumably they couldn't get that big safety door open without the code, so even if they had run across it they wouldn't have known what was behind it.

It'll be interesting to see how long Rush can keep that a secret from everybody else. He can't just keep disappearing on the rest of the crew without eventually raising suspicion. Well, more suspicion than usual, I suppose...
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Post by NecronLord » 2010-10-08 11:08am

In the SyFy promo video on gateworld for next week...
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There's a shot that looks like a row of stargates, the first of which is in pieces, where Rush's voiceover says "this ship has sizeable energy reserves." Guess the idea that we'd find a stargate seeding ship in season two and resupply off it was right.
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NecronLord wrote:In the SyFy promo video on gateworld for next week...
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There's a shot that looks like a row of stargates, the first of which is in pieces, where Rush's voiceover says "this ship has sizeable energy reserves." Guess the idea that we'd find a stargate seeding ship in season two and resupply off it was right.
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Or they simply get more full control of Destiny's systems and access to the majority of the interior, at which point they find the gate-seeding mechanism.
Could go either way really. I don't trust voiceovers one bit.
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Post by NecronLord » 2010-10-08 01:09pm

Well, it's not the voiceover I'm commenting on, I'm talking about the visual.
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Post by Sarevok » 2010-10-08 03:37pm

They lost one of their two shuttles. I wonder this will effect future small craft operations.
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Sarevok wrote:They lost one of their two shuttles.
They'd already lost one on the obelisk planet , so they're down to stargate travel only.
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Post by JME2 » 2010-10-10 05:32pm

I liked Way's subtle reference to the Goa'uld at the start; a nice callback for the longtime fans. Same with Eli's concerns over igniting the naquadah.

Good to see Franklin again; I'm glad they're not dropping that.

RIP Riley, though... :cry:

A stronger second episode than the premiere.

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