Stargate SG-1 s10e14 [spoilers]

Gustav32Vasa · Post by **Gustav32Vasa** » 2007-01-31 10:16am

So, did it work?

Will the Odessey ever decloak?

Will the 5 Ori warships go directly for Earth?

9/10

Very good episode, though I think that the Ancients could atleast give us knowledge if it worked. 3 ZPMs as thanks perhaps.

Luzifer's right hand · Post by **Luzifer's right hand** » 2007-01-31 11:20am

The cloak is maybe some shield modification, kinda like the puddle jumper shields just the other way round.

Gustav32Vasa · Post by **Gustav32Vasa** » 2007-01-31 12:14pm

Luzifer's right hand wrote:The cloak is maybe some shield modification, kinda like the puddle jumper shields just the other way round.

It must be very power hungry since Daniel hinted that it required a ZPM.

Dorsk 81 · Post by **Dorsk 81** » 2007-01-31 12:31pm

I love those Jackson/O'Neill moments. Great episode, though I have my doubts if the device worked, if the Ancients could have just taken the device when it was in our galaxy, what would have stopped the Ori doing the same the minute it entered theirs?

Zac Naloen · Post by **Zac Naloen** » 2007-01-31 02:38pm

Dorsk 81 wrote:I love those Jackson/O'Neill moments. Great episode, though I have my doubts if the device worked, if the Ancients could have just taken the device when it was in our galaxy, what would have stopped the Ori doing the same the minute it entered theirs?

My thoughts exactly..

I guess we'll find out in the coming weeks.

Xon · Post by **Xon** » 2007-01-31 10:59pm

It requires a Mark 9 to destroy an active outgoing Stargate?

HSRTG · Post by **HSRTG** » 2007-02-01 12:27am

SG-1 is consistently and amazingly good. The first half didn't give me much confidence, but the latter half of season 10 is looking up.

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2007-02-01 01:04am

Xon wrote:It requires a Mark 9 to destroy an active outgoing Stargate?

An active outgoing gate can be destroyed?! I know they can be overloaded, but they DESTROYED one?

atomic danny · Post by **atomic danny** » 2007-02-01 06:15am

Gustav32Vasa wrote:Will the 5 Ori warships go directly for Earth?

There are 8 Ori ships in the milky way now though

, one went back then another six came through the supergate (plus the one already next to the gate and the other ori ship that was else where makes 8 ships)

Chris OFarrell · Post by **Chris OFarrell** » 2007-02-01 06:22am

CaptainChewbacca wrote:
Xon wrote:It requires a Mark 9 to destroy an active outgoing Stargate?
An active outgoing gate can be destroyed?! I know they can be overloaded, but they DESTROYED one?

Yup. Well the Mark IX was designed to blow up Stargates after all. Carter comments that detonating it on the OTHER side of the Gate -not the side of the outgoing event horizon- will ensure none of the energy will be sucked in like when they jumped to the Supergate with the nukes.

Still I wonder how many Mark XI's they have left. The Ori have taken Langara and so they can't get anymore Naquadriah for the bombs....

And JESSSUUSSSS... Morena Baccarin. was HOT in that dress an with that backside waving back and forth as she walked.

I mean if she showed up on my planet, I'd be worshiping the Ori within five minutes.

The episode was good. A little slow in parts for the first 20 mins, but it had some great character moments between all the cast, even the supporting cast. WAY WAY better then the horror that was the Atlantis episode. Oh well, Stargate aint perfect and there have been horror episodes in the past...aka Space Race, aka Demons...

Still its a nice change this week. Atlantis, SG1 and nBSG have been backsliding badly over the last season. Good to see some starting to turn around.

Xon · Post by **Xon** » 2007-02-01 08:08am

Chris OFarrell wrote:Still I wonder how many Mark XI's they have left. The Ori have taken Langara and so they can't get anymore Naquadriah for the bombs....

They are probably using thier initial Naquadriah stockpile to convert Naquadah into Naquadriah on demand. Hopefully doing this on an expendable planet.

Braedley · Post by **Braedley** » 2007-02-01 08:35am

"What took you so long?" *zat*
That was priceless.

Great episode too.

Also, I think sci-fi will also be changing the order of the episodes from the production order (to the order that sky one aired them). The current order is the only way that the arc makes sense.

HRogge · Post by **HRogge** » 2007-02-01 11:56am

Xon wrote:
Chris OFarrell wrote:Still I wonder how many Mark XI's they have left. The Ori have taken Langara and so they can't get anymore Naquadriah for the bombs....
They are probably using thier initial Naquadriah stockpile to convert Naquadah into Naquadriah on demand. Hopefully doing this on an expendable planet.

Maybe they converted the naquada asteroid one system lord has thrown at Earth...

bilateralrope · Post by **bilateralrope** » 2007-02-01 02:51pm

Xon wrote:
Chris OFarrell wrote:Still I wonder how many Mark XI's they have left. The Ori have taken Langara and so they can't get anymore Naquadriah for the bombs....
They are probably using thier initial Naquadriah stockpile to convert Naquadah into Naquadriah on demand. Hopefully doing this on an expendable planet.

They could be doing this on earth as it has no Naquadah except what they bought with them. So there is no danger of a runaway reaction like there was on Langara.

General Zod · Post by **General Zod** » 2007-02-02 10:52am

I'm a bit disappointed that the whole thing with Daniel becoming a prior was only a one episode bit. Otherwise fairly good. Hope we get some confirmation as to whether the Ancient device works though.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2007-02-02 11:08am

I'm concerned about whether it was worth it. Didn't the cowardly asgard (Vesir?) suggest that the device worked by generating a counter-effect to the powers of the Orii? Shouldn't Adria just be able to get up and pull the plug on the damn thing?

Gustav32Vasa · Post by **Gustav32Vasa** » 2007-02-02 11:24am

NecronLord wrote:I'm concerned about whether it was worth it. Didn't the cowardly asgard (Vesir?) suggest that the device worked by generating a counter-effect to the powers of the Orii? Shouldn't Adria just be able to get up and pull the plug on the damn thing?

Kvasir, and perhaps the device cant be turnd of. Ofcourse she can simply destroy the device.

General Zod · Post by **General Zod** » 2007-02-02 11:27am

NecronLord wrote:I'm concerned about whether it was worth it. Didn't the cowardly asgard (Vesir?) suggest that the device worked by generating a counter-effect to the powers of the Orii? Shouldn't Adria just be able to get up and pull the plug on the damn thing?

That's what I was thinking. What happens if Adria wakes up before the device goes off and pulls the plug? They'd be fucked hardcore.

Zac Naloen · Post by **Zac Naloen** » 2007-02-03 06:10am

General Zod wrote:
NecronLord wrote:I'm concerned about whether it was worth it. Didn't the cowardly asgard (Vesir?) suggest that the device worked by generating a counter-effect to the powers of the Orii? Shouldn't Adria just be able to get up and pull the plug on the damn thing?
That's what I was thinking. What happens if Adria wakes up before the device goes off and pulls the plug? They'd be fucked hardcore.

I thought it was rather stupid that they didn't take Adrea and space her

ray245 · Post by **ray245** » 2007-02-05 06:53am

err...cause she's too hot to be space?

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2007-02-05 11:05am

NecronLord wrote:I'm concerned about whether it was worth it. Didn't the cowardly asgard (Vesir?) suggest that the device worked by generating a counter-effect to the powers of the Orii? Shouldn't Adria just be able to get up and pull the plug on the damn thing?

I don't remember this, have I missed an episode?

Post by **NecronLord** » 2007-02-05 12:09pm

His Divine Shadow wrote:I don't remember this, have I missed an episode?

Camelot wrote:
KVASIR: There was enough data for us to summarise what the so called Anti-Ori weapon might be.

CARTER: Really? I wasn't able to make heads or tails of it.

KVASIR: Really?

She looks at him for a moment, a little put-out.

CARTER: Just tell me what you've got.

KVASIR: It is an energy transfer device similar to a Zero Point Module, except that the energy is channelled not from subspace into ordinary space-time but rather into the dimension occupied by ascended beings.

CARTER: And this energy is harmful to them in some way?

KVASIR: It is a form of interference. A simple analogy would be two standing waves cancelling each other out. If the weapon indeed works the way Merlin's writings imply, we would simply need to activate it and send it to the Ori galaxy and they would be eliminated.

That suggests that the thing actually just blocks them out, rather than destroys them. Or at least, that's how I interpreted it.

Darksider · Post by **Darksider** » 2007-02-05 01:53pm

But later in the statement, Kvasir explicitly states that they only need to get it to the Ori galaxy and turn it on, and the Ori would be eliminated.

Also, "canceling out" doesn't necessarily mean "blocking their powers" Canceling out the Ori's energy wave may very well destroy them permanently. It wouldn't be much of a weapon if you could undo its effects by turning it off.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2007-02-05 02:05pm

Darksider wrote:But later in the statement, Kvasir explicitly states that they only need to get it to the Ori galaxy and turn it on, and the Ori would be eliminated.

Take it on the Asgard ship - remember, momentum is convserved by stargates - zip off into deep space, deposit.

The chances of the Orii's followers being able to find it then would be best represented by exponential numbers in double digits to one.

Darksider · Post by **Darksider** » 2007-02-05 02:12pm

NecronLord wrote:Take it on the Asgard ship - remember, momentum is convserved by stargates - zip off into deep space, deposit.

The chances of the Orii's followers being able to find it then would be best represented by exponential numbers in double digits to one.

I suppose that's correct. Although Adria might have been able to find it, she wasn't around then.

Still, the thing that convinces me that the device is a one-shot kill against the Ori is the fact that Daniel, with merlin's knowledge in his head, expected his plan to succeed. He had to know the Ori followers (especially Adria) would turn on him the second he switched it on. and they have to have the other side of the supergate guarded (assuming they aren't total morons.) Daniel had to plan for the possiblity that his ship would be annihalated a few seconds after he switched the device on, and he was still extremely confident his plan would work.

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