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10 best dystopias?

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Wired list wrote:They're supposed to be hellish wastelands. But some of the sinister netherworlds found in books, movies, and videogames seem pretty cool. Sex, drugs, kick-ass weapons, fly rides - where do we sign up?

1) Los Angeles from Blade Runner
Cheap exotic animal knockoffs and remarkably quick trips to and from the Valley are hallmarks of LA in 2019. And don't even get us started on those Nexus 6 basic pleasure model replicants.

2) San Andreas from Grand Theft Auto
Want a limo? Jack one. Drive it at top speed through stop signs and into pedestrians. The cops will eventually kill you, but the afterlife is another game. And another.

3) Republic of Greater East Asia from Battle Royale
It's got better TV shows than Survivor. Instead of watching an island full of narcissists voting each other off, you get to watch an island full of snotty teenagers killing each other off. That's worth TiVoing.

4) Tatooine from Star Wars
It may be far from the bright center of the universe, but you can score droids from Jawas, bull's-eye wamp rats in Beggar's Canyon, and maybe even get an exclusive invite to a rager on Jabba's barge.

5) 1999 from The Matrix
On one level you're just a power cell in a human cocoon field, but on another you're living in a perpetual bubble economy. And if you pop the right pill, you get to dress up in leather and play with guns - lots of guns.

6) Hell from Dante's Inferno
Chill out in the outer reaches, admiring the view and reciting poetry with Homer and Virgil. As night falls, drop down a few circles to where the real party is: among all those gamblers and fornicators.

7) Htrae (aka Bizarro World) from Superman
On this planet, everything am ugly and backwards, including the grammar. Alarm clock tells you when to go to bed, and dogs walk people. Inhabitants of Bizarro World am so happy, them cry all the time!

8) Australia from The Road Warrior
All you need to live the good life here is a full tank of gas for your armor-plated muscle car. Sure, that Lord Humungus guy seems a little overbearing, but there is an enlightened view of alternative lifestyles, including a highly active fetish community.

9) London from Brave New World
Sexual promiscuity, gratuitous consumerism, and drug abuse aren't just tolerated, they're encouraged. Still not convinced? Have another hit of Soma; you'll feel better.

10) Shelbyville from The Simpsons
Springfield's longtime rival boasts natural wonders like Rolling Rock and Shelbyville Falls. And its sports teams regularly trounce the competition in minor-league grudge matches.
Why is Shelbyvile considered a Dystopia?
Brave new world also would be fun to live in, since you would be happy (And without even happy bots).
The planets owned by the Omni Corp might also be all right as long as you keep out of main stream groups (Those happy bots can kill you citizen :) :D :twisted: )
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Most of those seem fair, but Dante's Inferno? Did the writer actually read that? Getting your flesh rended by a pack of demons over and over again for all eternity and more of that sort of nastyness isn't my idea of fun...
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Personally, I think the City from GTA2 is a way cooler place than San Andreas...
SiegeTank wrote:Most of those seem fair, but Dante's Inferno? Did the writer actually read that? Getting your flesh rended by a pack of demons over and over again for all eternity and more of that sort of nastyness isn't my idea of fun...
The writer seemed to think the upper circles were the fun places, and then he would go down to the lower circles where "the real party is". He forgot that those that are placed in Hell cannot move to other circles...
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Where is Libria from Equilibrium? I mean... it's not like you can feel bad or despressed since you don't have emotions anyway (than again, you don't feel happy either)
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How would you rate the cities from Judge Dredd and Demolition Man?
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wautd wrote:How would you rate the cities from Judge Dredd and Demolition Man?
Judge Dredd cities vary, with the East Meg and Vatican cities being 1984 style fortresses, and Meg 1-3 simply having an 88% unemployment rate (Although everyone has extremely high unemployment wages), with laws agaisnt everything (Literally, if a Judge wants to bust you, you can't do a thing).
It's also a elected dictatorship since the Judges were voted (In a free election) at least twice into power over the constitution, and while Judges can do almost anything they want (See Judge Cal [although he used brainwashing] for the ludicrous extreme of this), they are held up to unbeleievably high standards and taught to hold the law above all else, a corrupt Judge is almost unheard off and is dealt with very harshly.

The main problem is the nasty thing that have happened in Megs history, but as Dystopias go it's immeasurably better than a 40k hive world/city.

Demolition man cities actually seemd to be damn fun, no crime and people didn't feel the urge for sex.
The 3 conches would be a problem though, and those pesky rebels :P
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wautd wrote:How would you rate the cities from Judge Dredd and Demolition Man?
The 3 conches would be a problem though, and those pesky rebels :P
Aw but at least the rebels know the joy of eating a juicy ratburger :wink:
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Shroom Man 777 wrote:How DO those three seashells work?
He doesn't know how to use the three sea shells :P
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Cthulhuvong wrote:
Shroom Man 777 wrote:How DO those three seashells work?
He doesn't know how to use the three sea shells :P
Don't laugh, cause I'll bet you don't either... :twisted:
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I'm guessing it's some sort of bidet...
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Cthulhuvong wrote:
Shroom Man 777 wrote:How DO those three seashells work?
He doesn't know how to use the three sea shells :P
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Who needs the seashells anyway?

Alpha City from the RPG Paranoia gets my vote ;)
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DEATH wrote:
wautd wrote:How would you rate the cities from Judge Dredd and Demolition Man?
Judge Dredd cities vary, with the East Meg and Vatican cities being 1984 style fortresses,
Did we ever really see much of East-Meg 1 before Dredd nuked it? I can't really think of any examples.
with laws agaisnt everything (Literally, if a Judge wants to bust you, you can't do a thing).
Oh, nonsense. There's was one where they had around 20 Judges tearing up a guys apartment without finding anything to let them take him in. ("Slow Crime Day").
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I'm amazed Oceania isn't listed which would be quite obvious, Libria is pretty much the same only with a more modern touch now.

Personally, Vice City and Liberty City always appealed more than San Andreas.
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I think it's pretty difficult to justify calling Tatooine a dystopia. I was always under the impression that it was intended to be a run of the mill shithole frontier world ("If there's a bright center to the universe, you're on the planet that it's farther from.")

Does that mean that Kansas from "The Wizard of Oz" is also a dystopia? It has poverty-stricken farmers, it has dangerous storms, it has a young person dreaming of escape, and it even has a wealthy local bully.
I'm amazed Oceania isn't listed which would be quite obvious
I think the intent is to list dystopias which would actually be fun to inhabit. I'd be surprised if there's anyone who thinks, even in jest, that he would enjoy living in Oceania.
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i'd love to live in San Andreas, first you got cars that don't kill the occupants when they crash, only when they blow up, you get to use all sorts of weapons, fly jets and rocket packs and then invade military bases and not get killed. Then you can kill people and they come back( all the people look the same and talk the same, i suspect they are replicants) and if you die, you can come back and play again.
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Tokyo of 2050 in 'Burst Angel'. Private possession of firearms is legalized, women now favor tight-fitting clothing that show a lot of skin, and giant robots-- known as cybots-- are commonly used by police and military units to deal with mutants, monsters, zombies, and other cybots. It's hard to get bored in a place like that.
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The world of Fallout 1/2 is actually fantastic, IF you live in a vault or the enclave, otherwise the wastes make Mad Max's seem fun.
Did we ever really see much of East-Meg 1 before Dredd nuked it? I can't really think of any examples.
Considering how Dredd thought it was too strict (The episode with the olympic war games) I doubt that it could have been fun.
Oh, nonsense. There's was one where they had around 20 Judges tearing up a guys apartment without finding anything to let them take him in. ("Slow Crime Day").
Wow :shock: , technically if he'd started walking around then they could have busted him for fast.slow walking.
How did he pull that of?
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Spacebeard wrote:
I'm amazed Oceania isn't listed which would be quite obvious
I think the intent is to list dystopias which would actually be fun to inhabit. I'd be surprised if there's anyone who thinks, even in jest, that he would enjoy living in Oceania.
What is Oceania from?
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What is Oceania from?
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Got to get around to reading that one of these days.
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Sorry I hit submit instead of preview before I finished my post.

What about Brave New World. I've heard of it before, but what does the story entail?
9) London from Brave New World
Sexual promiscuity, gratuitous consumerism, and drug abuse aren't just tolerated, they're encouraged. Still not convinced? Have another hit of Soma; you'll feel better.
That doesn't sound like one of the best places to live, but it doesn't sound like a dystopia to me either.
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Anomie wrote:Sorry I hit submit instead of preview before I finished my post.

What about Brave New World. I've heard of it before, but what does the story entail?
9) London from Brave New World
Sexual promiscuity, gratuitous consumerism, and drug abuse aren't just tolerated, they're encouraged. Still not convinced? Have another hit of Soma; you'll feel better.
That doesn't sound like one of the best places to live, but it doesn't sound like a dystopia to me either.
It's a dystopia because they outlawed sexual reproduction and free thought, and because of the caste system, where the majority of people are borderline mental retards with just enough intelligence to perform menial tasks. And if you disagree (that is, if you're one of the upper caste who is able to disagree, you are shipped off to a reservation.
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General_Soontir_Fel wrote: where the majority of people are borderline mental retards
So, I must ask you. How is that any different from today's society?
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Trytostaydead wrote: So, I must ask you. How is that any different from today's society?
No, like physically borderline mentally retarded, not ideologically or ignorantly. The caste system deprives oxygen to lower caste members to inhibit their growth and produce half-retarded slaves in the Epsilon and Delta castes, and then brainwashing repetition makes everyone happy to live in their caste- usually. If you aren't happy and you refuse to take Soma, you get shipped to a primitive Indian Reservation type of wild area.
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