Just saw the Animatrix on Cartoon Network

BlkbrryTheGreat · Post by **BlkbrryTheGreat** » 2004-04-18 01:36am

Overall, I say it was much more coherent and interesting then the last two matrix films. Highlight of it was the Second Renissance in my opinion.

Captain Cyran · Post by **Captain Cyran** » 2004-04-18 01:38am

I thought it was pretty sweet myself. The Second Ren. thing was very cool, I also liked the samurai kinda one, didn't manage to catch the name of that one though. The other ones did have some cool things about them though.

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2004-04-18 01:42am

Did they show the Square CG one first? I only turned it on near the end of The Second Rennisance, P1.

Oh, and Peter Chung? Yeah, you still suck donkey balls. May your creative conciousness curl up into a ball and shrivel away. I hope you are banished from all forms of media.

Captain Cyran · Post by **Captain Cyran** » 2004-04-18 01:45am

DPDarkPrimus wrote:Did they show the Square CG one first? I only turned it on near the end of The Second Rennisance, P1.

Oh, and Peter Chung? Yeah, you still suck donkey balls. May your creative conciousness curl up into a ball and shrivel away. I hope you are banished from all forms of media.

Which one did Chung do?

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2004-04-18 01:49am

The Animatrix is definitely better than the last two films; they actually had fun with the idea of the Matrix and reality, unlike Reloaded and Revolutions.

Both of the Watanabe shorts were absolutely top-notch, in my opinion, as was Koji Morimoto's short (Beyond). The Second Renaissance shorts represented very fine storytelling, in my opinion, but it's rather difficult to get past the grating plot holes and irrationality of most of the stuff that happens in them.

Program and the Final Flight of the Osiris were OK, World Record was crap, and as I have said before, Matriculated was a festering, infected wound on the anus on anime and the best case yet made for locking Peter Chung up in a small room and never allowing him to ruin perfectly good pieces of paper again by adorning them with the visual abortions he has the gall to call "character designs."

Hamel · Post by **Hamel** » 2004-04-18 01:58am

Did they show Detective Story? That one was crap.

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2004-04-18 02:12am

Captain_Cyran wrote:
Which one did Chung do?

The last one. The one with the horrible animation and the trippy, pointless "plot".

Seggybop · Post by **Seggybop** » 2004-04-18 02:24am

They censored out a lot of 2nd Renaissance's coolness. Relatively annoying.

How can Detective Story not be liked? Do you also dislike Cowboy Bebop?

BlkbrryTheGreat · Post by **BlkbrryTheGreat** » 2004-04-18 02:36am

DPDarkPrimus wrote:
Captain_Cyran wrote:
Which one did Chung do?
The last one. The one with the horrible animation and the trippy, pointless "plot".

Its a shame too, its started out very promising in terms of art and potential story line. It all went downhill after they "jacked in".

PrinceofLowLight · Post by **PrinceofLowLight** » 2004-04-18 02:52am

Detective Story, Beyond and Kid's Story were the best in my humble opinion. Matriculated had a neat concept (humans reprogramming machines to be their servants again? Neat! Why didn't they do that in the first place?) but got a little too uhh...off topic.

Post by **Gandalf** » 2004-04-18 03:10am

Second Renaissance was brilliant IMO.

FFoTO was a little too built on eye candy for me.

The rest was just odd.

Uraniun235 · Post by **Uraniun235** » 2004-04-18 04:40am

2nd. Ren. was pretty, I'll give it that much.

But some parts of it were fucking stupid beyond all belief.

"We're going to make sentient robots without any hardwired safeguards whatsoever! And then we're going to put them in a position where they could destroy us!"
"Our nukes have little to no effect on the machines, despite the fact that nuclear weapons produce really big EMPs when they detonate, and that nukes are the most powerful weapon on the planet!"
"Hey, let's completely destroy most life on Earth by permanently blocking out the sun!"

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2004-04-18 05:29am

how about instead pf dark storm we detonate upper atmospheroc nukes amd fry every fucking circuit on the planet?

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2004-04-18 08:48am

The Yosemite Bear wrote:how about instead pf dark storm we detonate upper atmospheroc nukes amd fry every fucking circuit on the planet?

Because that would be smart Colin...and in 2nd Ren, people are dumb.

Overall I liked Detective story the most , and Final Flight. One because I enjoyed the tale...and FFoTO just had some great eye candy.

General Zod · Post by **General Zod** » 2004-04-18 09:01am

The Detective Story was the best one. Film noir in sci-fi settings is always a bonus. Final Flight of the Osiris was pretty trippy too. I honestly think i enjoyed the animatrix more than reloaded in some ways.

SyntaxVorlon · Post by **SyntaxVorlon** » 2004-04-18 10:39am

I liked Watanabe's, the story about the runner was good if only because of the way it characterized the matrix, the agents and the people within the matrix.

Though second renaissance was a bit, how could they actually be so incredibly stupid? I mean that it really really really doesn't follow that you give robots working in factories AIs. It just turns the whole thing into a bit of Marx's history of the future.

starfury · Post by **starfury** » 2004-04-18 11:27am

just saw it last night too, the 2nd Renissance in was indeed good and having never seen the last 2 films of the matrix itself.

the stuff was weird but interesting.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2004-04-18 12:53pm

I like Detective story and the japanese one the best....

Grand Admiral Thrawn · Post by **Grand Admiral Thrawn** » 2004-04-18 12:59pm

Second Renissance was one of the stupidest, most bullshit thing I have ever seen. They had dozens of fully sentient robots that got breaks PULLING blocks of a pyramid. WTF was that? The second part has thankfully mostly been blocked from my mind.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2004-04-18 01:06pm

That and other plot holes I disliked immensely....

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2004-04-18 04:19pm

Matriculation's very American style nuAnime is horrible.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-04-18 04:24pm

kojikun wrote:Matriculation's very American style nuAnime is horrible.

Specifically, it's Peter Chung's "style." Every single person he designs is an ugly emaciated woman decked out in outfits a gay stripper wouldn't be caught dead in.

I swear he should have his hands cut off...

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-04-18 04:26pm

Additionally, I didn't like the Japanese Samurai one, but's that's only because I'm not a fan of Yoshiaki Kawajiri's work.

The Prime Necromancer · Post by **The Prime Necromancer** » 2004-04-18 04:44pm

Kid's Story, Detective Story, and Program I liked. I liked Osiris too, but I had seen it before. World Record I didn't care for.

Second Renaissance *could* have been good, but as others have expressed, the sheer stupidity and bullshit is so immense that it makes the act of enjoying it and having a brain incompatible.

As for the other two, I haven't watched them yet.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-04-18 04:48pm

I liked The Second Renaissance...

*myan*