Chaotic Neutral wrote:I just thought of something, if Flynn rewinds the Grid 5 minutes, isn't his dad still live?
I don't think the Grid quite works like that.
It seems to be heavily influenced by the real world, and programs written here create a program there, but it does
not seem to be a completely 1-to-1 correspondence...but even if you could just restore to a saved state, Users don't appear to follow quite the same rules inside the Grid as outside it. I think of it as more of an alternate space linked to the computer, rather than being literally inside the computer itself - more like the Digimon digital world than the Matrix.
Of course, being able to rewind five minutes and just undo anything that goes wrong would also cut out any sense of drama from the film, which may be the more important reason.
montypython wrote:That's something else that bugs me about the film, because if that was the case there'd be a lot more crazy things happening in their reality, hell stuff like what happens in animes like Haruhi Suzumiya would be popping up all over the place then, particularly since such a thing wouldn't be strictly time dependent propagations. This also means there would be far nastier implications than merely Clu attempting to invade the world...
Molyneux wrote:
If I'm not mistaken, it's heavily implied that the digitizing laser-thing allows them to create matter ex nihilo. This is both completely impossible in the real world (or at least takes far, far more energy than humanity is capable of harnessing), and neatly explains just why Flynn thought he could really change the world - especially if Tron-like physics can leak over into reality, Digimon-style. Imagine a machine that could simply create food out of the air - or being able to digitize someone and then cure their cancer simply by debugging their code.
I do wish the film had gone into more explicit details with that kind of thing; it was a major tease having that kind of thing hinted at and obliquely mentioned, but never followed up on.
That's something else that bugs me about the film, because if that was the case there'd be a lot more crazy things happening in their reality, hell stuff like what happens in animes like Haruhi Suzumiya would be popping up all over the place then, particularly since such a thing wouldn't be strictly time dependent propagations. This also means there would be far nastier implications than merely Clu attempting to invade the world...
Again, more explicit detail on that would have been great. I do think that, generally, programs put into the physical world wouldn't be TOO much of an issue - I mean, they're around human strength and durability, even if those discs could make for some nasty hand-to-hand weapons. I don't think they'd pose too much of a problem to human weapons, at least not with comparable forces.
On the other hand, think of CLU getting his hands on a terminal for the Grid and just hitting copy-and-paste a few billion times on a loyal program - and sending them all through the digitizer to the real world. Through sheer force of numbers, that could get really bad, really fast.
I am hoping that if they do make a sequel, Quorra turns out to be able to display some User-like abilities
in the real world. Would be an interesting turnaround, and a great way of demonstrating exactly why Flynn went so gaga about Isos (even aside from their existence as self-created intelligences).
Come to think of it, the existence of the Isos appears to work in favor of the Grid being a representative reality rather than literally the inside of the computer architecture - I doubt you'll ever see your computer start to write programs on its own no matter how you monkey with it. On the other hand, if it was the Grid responding to the influence of a User's long-term presence, it makes a little bit more sense, at least for a space with some seriously strange laws of physics.
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