W40K as Anime

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2005-11-28 05:33am

Setzer wrote:Well, big eyes in anime are indicitave of innocence.

Absolutely wrong. The "Big eyes" convention in anime was more or less originated by Osamu Tezuka so that he could have his characters express their emotions more easily and visibly.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2005-11-28 05:54am

Additionally, it's almost painfully obvious that with a WH40K anime, you're not going to get the lighter character designs you find in series like Pokemon, Sailor Moon, or Heaven forbid, Yu-Gi-Oh!. It would be something that's more realistically grounded or at least less stylised like those in Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex, Witch Hunter Robin, Evangelion, or Zeta Gundam.

white_rabbit · Post by **white_rabbit** » 2005-11-28 07:26am

Eldar are freakish enough in body form as it is, Giving them big eyes would be painful to see.

Despite the fantasies of various fan writers...

SAMAS · Post by **SAMAS** » 2005-11-28 08:09am

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:
Setzer wrote:Well, big eyes in anime are indicitave of innocence.
Absolutely wrong. The "Big eyes" convention in anime was more or less originated by Osamu Tezuka so that he could have his characters express their emotions more easily and visibly.

That said, it usually is the more innocent characters who have the largest eyes in many series. And not always because they're kids. Compare Sasami, Washu, and Mihoshi on Tenchi Muyo, for example.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2005-11-28 08:29am

....

Considering that Washu is one of the Choushin, she's hardly innocent, not to mention that her actions and behavior don't point in such a direction, either.

But that's really besides the point: your nitpick does no damage to my argument.

SAMAS · Post by **SAMAS** » 2005-11-28 11:36am

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:....

Considering that Washu is one of the Choushin, she's hardly innocent, not to mention that her actions and behavior don't point in such a direction, either.

But that was my point. Despite being similar in age to Sasami physically, she is most certainly not innocent, and you can kinda see that by looking at her eyes.

Then you have Mihoshi, who, while she's about twice Sasami's age physically, her eyes are just as wide and expressive.

Hmmm... I wonder how they would look with their eyes switched...

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2005-11-28 11:47am

Whatever, this shit hardly has anything to do with my main point, to which it's just a nitpick, or to WH40K, the actual subject of the thread.

Post by **LadyTevar** » 2005-11-28 01:08pm

Rogue 9 wrote:
MRDOD wrote:
Rogue 9 wrote: You've evidently never seen an Adepta Sororitas army, then.
I don't think Sisters are very cuddly. In fact, they're probably Nuns with Guns anyhow.

Wait, Anime...
Nuns...
Belay that quibble!
What Space Marines do in their spare time.

"# !" is all I see on that link.

Post by **LadyTevar** » 2005-11-28 01:17pm

white_rabbit wrote:Eldar are freakish enough in body form as it is, Giving them big eyes would be painful to see.

Despite the fantasies of various fan writers...

What would bother me is the Japanese tendency to give elven characters those huge-freaking needle-point ears.

WTF is up with that? Even WoW does it with their Nightelves.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2005-11-28 01:18pm

it was women in bikini versions of marine armour, with the title Playmarine.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2005-11-28 01:22pm

LadyTevar wrote:
white_rabbit wrote:Eldar are freakish enough in body form as it is, Giving them big eyes would be painful to see.

Despite the fantasies of various fan writers...
What would bother me is the Japanese tendency to give elven characters those huge-freaking needle-point ears. WTF is up with that? Even WoW does it with their Nightelves.

I was thinking the same thing...
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Lord Revan · Post by **Lord Revan** » 2005-11-28 02:00pm

LadyTevar wrote:
white_rabbit wrote:Eldar are freakish enough in body form as it is, Giving them big eyes would be painful to see.

Despite the fantasies of various fan writers...
What would bother me is the Japanese tendency to give elven characters those huge-freaking needle-point ears. WTF is up with that? Even WoW does it with their Nightelves.

actually all Elves in warcraftverse have over extanded needle point ears (and some eye brows that match), in my opinion that's because anime does it (same with the bikini armor that elven archers wear in WC3) and they're making fun of it.

Brother-Captain Gaius · Post by **Brother-Captain Gaius** » 2005-11-28 02:09pm

DEATH wrote:Seconded, I have "March into hell" and "Chaos gate" and it's fucking fantastic, can anyone tell me where I can also find it (Or Download it, if legal?).

Also is the first picture a Marine harvesting Geneseed?

I've ripped Chaos Gate's music (I own it, so yes it's legal), and while musically it is indeed fantastic, the problem is that being a fairly old game, the music is of terrible quality. The brass in particular is painfully synthesized, the whole soundtrack desperately needs a modern version.

As for the pictures, yes, the apothecary is extracting one of the fallen's progenoids.

Rubberanvil · Post by **Rubberanvil** » 2005-11-28 10:32pm

LadyTevar wrote: What would bother me is the Japanese tendency to give elven characters those huge-freaking needle-point ears.

Needle-point or Vulcan, elves are still fucked in that department.

What is with the attention on the ears when most likely they're end up as guro fodder.

Sidewinder · Post by **Sidewinder** » 2005-11-29 12:33am

Rubberanvil wrote:
LadyTevar wrote: What would bother me is the Japanese tendency to give elven characters those huge-freaking needle-point ears.
Needle-point or Vulcan, elves are still fucked in that department.

What is with the attention on the ears when most likely they're end up as guro fodder.

I'm unfamiliar with WH40K. What's a guro? Some kind of carnivore?

Rubberanvil · Post by **Rubberanvil** » 2005-11-29 05:53am

Sidewinder wrote: I'm unfamiliar with WH40K. What's a guro?

From Wiki

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ero-guro wrote:Ero-guro is a genre of Japanese pornography and hentai involving blood, gore, disfiguration, mutilation, urine, enemas, or feces. The term is gairaigo derived from the English phrase "erotic grotesque", and is frequently shortened to simply guro.

For WH40K only blood, gore, disfiguration, and mutilation would imply.

Sidewinder · Post by **Sidewinder** » 2005-11-30 12:54am

From Wiki

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ero-guro wrote:Ero-guro is a genre of Japanese pornography and hentai involving blood, gore, disfiguration, mutilation, urine, enemas, or feces. The term is gairaigo derived from the English phrase "erotic grotesque", and is frequently shortened to simply guro.

I guess this is one more reason for me to avoid the WH40K franchise like the plague-- I do NOT think mutilation is erotic, although it might be humorous if the person being mutilated is a rapist/violent extremist (think the KKK, Nazis, and al-Qaeda).

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2005-11-30 12:58am

No wait, I don't think 40K has anything at all like ero-guro. Sounds like someone's just being a spaz-whore.

Brother-Captain Gaius · Post by **Brother-Captain Gaius** » 2005-11-30 01:41am

Sidewinder wrote:I guess this is one more reason for me to avoid the WH40K franchise like the plague-- I do NOT think mutilation is erotic, although it might be humorous if the person being mutilated is a rapist/violent extremist (think the KKK, Nazis, and al-Qaeda).

Well, great, not many of us 40Kers do either. I'm still confused as to where in the Nine Hells you are getting this idea that 40K is supposed to be erotic.

Bob the Gunslinger · Post by **Bob the Gunslinger** » 2005-11-30 01:57am

sidewinder, you do realize that "guro" is not a wh40k term, but rather a subset of hentai (that is, perverted anime), right?

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2005-11-30 02:01am

It's more of a Japanese porno art fetish, since I cannot see how a ero-guro anime could even be released.

But then it also isn't something exclusive to the Japanese: there are plenty of pervert fucks in the West who do that kind of shit, too.

But it doesn't have anything to do with WH40K.

Morilore · Post by **Morilore** » 2005-11-30 02:52am

Maybe he was thinking Eldar = Slaanesh = fucked-up sex.

white_rabbit · Post by **white_rabbit** » 2005-11-30 03:17am

But it doesn't have anything to do with WH40K.

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Rubberanvil · Post by **Rubberanvil** » 2005-11-30 06:10am

Morilore wrote:Maybe he was thinking Eldar = Slaanesh = fucked-up sex.

Nope, no sex, nettes, sisters, banshees, just various blokes (Marines, Guard, Orks, Elder and etc) hacked or blown to itsy bitsy little pieces in the middle of a firefight. Through GW is the one to decide to how graphic the violence will be, especially with regards to the director choices already mention earlier in the thread.

Also more importantly what is the youngest age group it can be marketed to?

Post by **LadyTevar** » 2005-11-30 02:30pm

Rubberanvil wrote: Also more importantly what is the youngest age group it can be marketed to?

In America? NC-17 I'd say.