Starship Troopers (Movie version) Vs. Jaffa

Darksider · Post by **Darksider** » 2004-04-03 03:45pm

1. Replace the bug army attacking the outpost on planet P with 2 to 3 thousand Jaffa

2. 3 or 4 million Jaffa against the forces landing on Klendathu.

consequences · Post by **consequences** » 2004-04-03 04:25pm

Distance weapons, and the ability and willingness to occasionally use cover, combined with a much smaller target profile. To counter those advantages, the Jaffa are going to be slower, more vulnerable to injury from the MI guns, and lack the ability to tunnel every damned place.
Do Jaffa even have any sort of scaling/seige equipment to breach the wall of the outpost?

GrandMasterTerwynn · Post by **GrandMasterTerwynn** » 2004-04-03 04:30pm

consequences wrote:Distance weapons, and the ability and willingness to occasionally use cover, combined with a much smaller target profile. To counter those advantages, the Jaffa are going to be slower, more vulnerable to injury from the MI guns, and lack the ability to tunnel every damned place.
Do Jaffa even have any sort of scaling/seige equipment to breach the wall of the outpost?

The Jaffa have more effective and substantial close air support than the Bugs did. And they do have heavy guns which may be sufficient to demolish the flimsy walls of that fort.

wautd · Post by **wautd** » 2004-04-03 04:48pm

Didnt the Jaffa also got some sort of gun emplacement also?

I remember an episode where are group of Jaffa were guarding a stargate so SG-1 had difficulties to escape. Correct me if im wrong but i believe they had one.

Anyway i think it can be used as a siege weapon

If the MI uses on of them mini nukes on the Jafa that will be a hell of a lot less Jafa. Actually im wondering why they didnt on planet P (i guess they didnt had one with them)

Vertigo1 · Post by **Vertigo1** » 2004-04-03 04:54pm

wautd wrote:Didnt the Jaffa also got some sort of gun emplacement also?

I remember an episode where are group of Jaffa were guarding a stargate so SG-1 had difficulties to escape. Correct me if im wrong but i believe they had one.

Anyway i think it can be used as a siege weapon

If the MI uses on of them mini nukes on the Jafa that will be a hell of a lot less Jafa. Actually im wondering why they didnt on planet P (i guess they didnt had one with them)

You're thinking of the gun towers in the season 3 opener "Into the Fire". Those worked quite well and were quite powerful by comparison to MI small arms fire.

MI die hardcore. Hell, I bet a single Jaffa with a glider could take on the entire TF fleet with no problems at all.

After all, if they can be blown to pieces by bug farts, what's to stop a glider? Their sonic cannons?

wautd · Post by **wautd** » 2004-04-03 05:00pm

Vertigo1 wrote:
wautd wrote:Didnt the Jaffa also got some sort of gun emplacement also?

I remember an episode where are group of Jaffa were guarding a stargate so SG-1 had difficulties to escape. Correct me if im wrong but i believe they had one.

Anyway i think it can be used as a siege weapon

If the MI uses on of them mini nukes on the Jafa that will be a hell of a lot less Jafa. Actually im wondering why they didnt on planet P (i guess they didnt had one with them)
You're thinking of the gun towers in the season 3 opener "Into the Fire".

Nope something else. Its been a while i saw that episode so i can be wrong. It was the same eposide where they shoot down a glider after which Teal'c uses the glider's plasma gun as a portible cannon (It was a bit like Arnold armed with an E.M.-gun in erasor

)

Crazedwraith · Post by **Crazedwraith** » 2004-04-03 05:05pm

wautd wrote:
Vertigo1 wrote:
wautd wrote:Didnt the Jaffa also got some sort of gun emplacement also?

I remember an episode where are group of Jaffa were guarding a stargate so SG-1 had difficulties to escape. Correct me if im wrong but i believe they had one.

Anyway i think it can be used as a siege weapon

If the MI uses on of them mini nukes on the Jafa that will be a hell of a lot less Jafa. Actually im wondering why they didnt on planet P (i guess they didnt had one with them)
The "fifth man"? The one with an anlien prentendnig to be the fifth member of SG-1: a man named Tyler.

You're thinking of the gun towers in the season 3 opener "Into the Fire".
Nope something else. Its been a while i saw that episode so i can be wrong. It was the same eposide where they shoot down a glider after which Teal'c uses the glider's plasma gun as a portible cannon (It was a bit like Arnold armed with an E.M.-gun in erasor )

Crazedwraith · Post by **Crazedwraith** » 2004-04-03 05:07pm

Fuck, i screwed that up.

Watd. Are you thinking of "fifth man"? The one with an alien pretending to be the fifth member of SG-1: a man named Tyler.

wautd · Post by **wautd** » 2004-04-03 05:09pm

Crazedwraith wrote:Fuck, i screwed that up.

Watd. Are you thinking of "fifth man"? The one with an alien pretending to be the fifth member of SG-1: a man named Tyler.

aye thats the one

SylasGaunt · Post by **SylasGaunt** » 2004-04-03 05:28pm

Vertigo1 wrote: You're thinking of the gun towers in the season 3 opener "Into the Fire". Those worked quite well and were quite powerful by comparison to MI small arms fire. MI die hardcore. Hell, I bet a single Jaffa with a glider could take on the entire TF fleet with no problems at all. After all, if they can be blown to pieces by bug farts, what's to stop a glider? Their sonic cannons?

The nukes and lasers on those ships should do fine :p

And at least that Bug Fart seems reasonably powerful unlike a few instances of Goa'uld bombardment I can think of.

Grand Admiral Thrawn · Post by **Grand Admiral Thrawn** » 2004-04-03 07:10pm

Do the MI or Bugs have anything to counter Gliders/Akleshs?

justifier · Post by **justifier** » 2004-04-03 08:17pm

Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:Do the MI or Bugs have anything to counter Gliders/Akleshs?

The MI have close support fighter-bombers, which in addition to air to ground bombs and napalm have a pair of machine guns, IIRC.

The bugs have those big flying beetles which could kamikaze themselves into the gliders.

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2004-04-03 09:11pm

Machine guns and kamikazi bugs probably aren't going to be enough against Gliders, and against an Alkesh would just be patheticly funny.

Grand Admiral Thrawn · Post by **Grand Admiral Thrawn** » 2004-04-03 10:26pm

justifier wrote:
Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:Do the MI or Bugs have anything to counter Gliders/Akleshs?
The MI have close support fighter-bombers, which in addition to air to ground bombs and napalm have a pair of machine guns, IIRC.

Were these ever shown in the movie?

The bugs have those big flying beetles which could kamikaze themselves into the gliders.

I doubt their velocity would be enough to do damage (and the Glider's excellent performance means they can dodge).

justifier · Post by **justifier** » 2004-04-03 10:41pm

Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:
justifier wrote:
Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:Do the MI or Bugs have anything to counter Gliders/Akleshs?
The MI have close support fighter-bombers, which in addition to air to ground bombs and napalm have a pair of machine guns, IIRC.
Were these ever shown in the movie?

The fighters were used to drop napalm on planet P, the second planet the MI attacked.

Post by **Vympel** » 2004-04-04 09:30am

Were these ever shown in the movie?

They're on the decks of the fleet ships, during the collision that occured in the Klendathu attack you can seem them exploding on the flight decks. They're also in a quite nice looking scene on Planet P when they cook a shitload of bugs.