River vs Beatrix Kiddo

Enforcer Talen · Post by **Enforcer Talen** » 2005-10-11 04:20pm

What do you think? Precog and training vs unreal survival skills and training.

Mobiboros · Post by **Mobiboros** » 2005-10-11 04:31pm

Enforcer Talen wrote:What do you think? Precog and training vs unreal survival skills and training.

Beatrix Kiddo.

Beatrix took on the Crazy 88 (also highly trained martial artists) with a sword. Then took out their boss. Then went ahead and killed many other highly skilled martial artists.

River beat the hell out of a bunch of drunks and crazies.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2005-10-11 04:43pm

Tarantino took reality and urinated on it. Even by the anime-standards he ripped off it was unrealistic.

The Bride.

Mobiboros · Post by **Mobiboros** » 2005-10-11 04:54pm

Stormbringer wrote:Tarantino took reality and urinated on it. Even by the anime-standards he ripped off it was unrealistic.

Have you see Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon? House of Flying Daggers? Hero? Tarantino was no more unrealistic than any other hong-kong styled action flick. Hell, at least no one could nearly fly in Kill Bill, or make daggers turn in mid air, of block thousands of arrows with a sleeves.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2005-10-11 05:00pm

Mobiboros wrote:
Stormbringer wrote:Tarantino took reality and urinated on it. Even by the anime-standards he ripped off it was unrealistic.

Have you see Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon? House of Flying Daggers? Hero? Tarantino was no more unrealistic than any other hong-kong styled action flick. Hell, at least no one could nearly fly in Kill Bill, or make daggers turn in mid air, of block thousands of arrows with a sleeves.

And I said that they're realistic when? The simple fact is they're not at all.

When you have a universe that has it's physics determined by what looks cool it's just not going to compare to a realistic or largely realistic one.

Post by **weemadando** » 2005-10-11 06:45pm

Wuxia is all about bending reality. Beatrix Kiddo could bitch River.

ANGELUS · Post by **ANGELUS** » 2005-10-13 12:32pm

Beatrix all the vay. We've seen her slaying dozens of assasins at the same time (all of them with swords). She even lifted one in the air after stabing him with her katana, meaning that she is stronger than River. She has her five steps death touch.

River stands no chance

Stark · Post by **Stark** » 2005-10-13 08:17pm

I don't get it.

River shoots her.

Game over.

The sword lameness only works in the 'revenge/vendetta' idiom of the movies: call me nuts, but give me a shotgun and I'LL kill the Bride.

Remember, they're called the 'Crazy 88s' because they're IDIOTS.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2005-10-13 08:45pm

And, of course, River butchered a pack of vicious warriors without a scratch, who, although less numerous than the Crazy 88, also had guns.

Majin Gojira · Post by **Majin Gojira** » 2005-10-13 09:13pm

Here's a thought, what if River had Access to Wu Xia physics?

Post by **weemadando** » 2005-10-13 09:34pm

Rules of wuxia universes, guns aren't worth shit. And plus, lets not forget that Beatrix Kiddo has lived through being repeatedly shot, and then "executed".

Mobiboros · Post by **Mobiboros** » 2005-10-13 10:07pm

weemadando wrote:Rules of wuxia universes, guns aren't worth shit. And plus, lets not forget that Beatrix Kiddo has lived through being repeatedly shot, and then "executed".

She was also trained to use guns, she only preferred a sword to use in a vendetta against Bill because the guy who made tha sword (Hanzo) has a specific hatred of Bill. Plus, it was an homage to Lone Wolf and Cub.

I still maintain what River did wasn't that impressive. In the Fierfly context she was an ass kicking machine, but in the end she only beat up a bunch of drunks and some berserkers who evidenced no specific fighting skills other than being crazy.

Demiurge · Post by **Demiurge** » 2005-10-14 02:13pm

HemlockGrey wrote:And, of course, River butchered a pack of vicious warriors without a scratch, who, although less numerous than the Crazy 88, also had guns.

The Bride took on, as I recall, 43 Crazies at one time. She also fought two small groups of perhaps half a dozen of them seperately. I don't think there's any way to know how many reavers River killed.

Stark · Post by **Stark** » 2005-10-14 05:22pm

weemadando wrote:Rules of wuxia universes, guns aren't worth shit. And plus, lets not forget that Beatrix Kiddo has lived through being repeatedly shot, and then "executed".

How is this relevant? The movies are about the Bride as the righteous retribution on those who 'killed' her: she is not fucking invincible. She's not going to get the 'avenge the evil traitors' quickening from a teenage girl. She got pwnzored by guns, she didn't laugh at them HA! HA! and cut her mates up: she went down like a sack of shit. At shotgun loaded with ROCK SALT floors her. A shotgun loaded with LEAD would have put a nice hole in her torso.

But hey, I didn't know vs threads took place under the rules of one of the offending universes.

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