Which kind of vampires would win in a fight?

Enigma · Post by **Enigma** » 2004-02-09 11:31pm

Ann Rice's vampires like Lestat and co. (do not include IoaV or QotD)

The vampires from Buffy & Angel.

Bram Stoker's Dracula.

Vampires from the movie "Underground".

Vamps from "Lost Boys".

Vampires from "Blade".

If you put a bunch of vampires of each type and have them fight to the death, who'd come out alive?

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2004-02-09 11:33pm

The orgina Dracula from I can recall. Inhuman strength, freaky shape shifting (he can turn into mist!) and possibly some immunity to day light. One tough bastard.

Enigma · Post by **Enigma** » 2004-02-09 11:37pm

Stormbringer wrote:The orgina Dracula from I can recall. Inhuman strength, freaky shape shifting (he can turn into mist!) and possibly some immunity to day light. One tough bastard.

Yes but vamps like Lestat and some older vampires may also have some immunity to daylight. Plus they are incredibly fast and as far as I can tell, much stronger than the other vampire types.

justifier · Post by **justifier** » 2004-02-09 11:38pm

Alucard owns them all

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2004-02-09 11:39pm

Enigma wrote:
Stormbringer wrote:The orgina Dracula from I can recall. Inhuman strength, freaky shape shifting (he can turn into mist!) and possibly some immunity to day light. One tough bastard.

Yes but vamps like Lestat and some older vampires may also have some immunity to daylight. Plus they are incredibly fast and as far as I can tell, much stronger than the other vampire types.

True, but they're still easily killed once Dracula gets his hands on them. All he has to do is ambush them.

Enigma · Post by **Enigma** » 2004-02-09 11:42pm

justifier wrote:Alucard owns them all

Who's he? I don't know many vampire types.

Majin Gojira · Post by **Majin Gojira** » 2004-02-09 11:43pm

I think you ment "Underworld", not Underground.

and Dracula Owns

Enigma · Post by **Enigma** » 2004-02-09 11:43pm

Stormbringer wrote:
Enigma wrote:
Stormbringer wrote:The orgina Dracula from I can recall. Inhuman strength, freaky shape shifting (he can turn into mist!) and possibly some immunity to day light. One tough bastard.

Yes but vamps like Lestat and some older vampires may also have some immunity to daylight. Plus they are incredibly fast and as far as I can tell, much stronger than the other vampire types.
True, but they're still easily killed once Dracula gets his hands on them. All he has to do is ambush them.

But what if he encounters the vampire queen (before her death)?

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-02-09 11:45pm

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2004-02-09 11:47pm

Enigma wrote:
justifier wrote:Alucard owns them all
Who's he? I don't know many vampire types.

He's one of the lead characters from the anime and magna Hellsing. Bad ass demi god.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2004-02-09 11:48pm

Enigma wrote:
justifier wrote:Alucard owns them all
Who's he? I don't know many vampire types.

Alucard, the vampire from the manga/anime Hellsing. He fights on the side of the humans though, killing "inferior" vampires.

He's freakishly strong and unbelievably difficult to kill. Connor MacLeod has done some calcs and posted them on this forum, impressive stuff.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2004-02-09 11:49pm

Oh, yeah, Alucard is also Dracula himself. So that's another plus.

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2004-02-09 11:50pm

Stormbringer wrote:The orgina Dracula from I can recall. Inhuman strength, freaky shape shifting (he can turn into mist!) and possibly some immunity to day light. One tough bastard.

Bram Stoker's Dracula was immune to daylight. He doesn't have any powers, but he also doesn't violently die in daylight. In fact, IIRC, John Harker sees him in London during the day after he escapes from Dracula's castle and makes his way back there.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2004-02-09 11:52pm

On the contrary, he climbs a castle wall beneath Jonathan Harker's window, that alone requires inhuman strength. He also can summon wolves (or perhaps turn into them) and of course the famous mist. No powers my ass.

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2004-02-09 11:54pm

Stormbringer wrote:On the contrary, he climbs a castle wall beneath Jonathan Harker's window, that alone requires inhuman strength. He also can summon wolves (or perhaps turn into them) and of course the famous mist. No powers my ass.

I know that, I meant to say that he doesn't have any powers during the day. At night, he's got all sorts of powers.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2004-02-09 11:56pm

Gil Hamilton wrote:
Stormbringer wrote:On the contrary, he climbs a castle wall beneath Jonathan Harker's window, that alone requires inhuman strength. He also can summon wolves (or perhaps turn into them) and of course the famous mist. No powers my ass.
I know that, I meant to say that he doesn't have any powers during the day. At night, he's got all sorts of powers.

Well, the mist at least was during the day. Not sure about the others. At least he has the slut-beam eyes working during the day as well.

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2004-02-10 12:00am

Stormbringer wrote:Well, the mist at least was during the day. Not sure about the others. At least he has the slut-beam eyes working during the day as well.

Really? I thought his powers simply didn't work in the day. Keep in mind that it's been a while since I've read it.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2004-02-10 12:03am

Gil Hamilton wrote:
Stormbringer wrote:Well, the mist at least was during the day. Not sure about the others. At least he has the slut-beam eyes working during the day as well.
Really? I thought his powers simply didn't work in the day. Keep in mind that it's been a while since I've read it.

At least some do. And some it's hard to tell because it's later in the day when they're shown. At least some do during the day.

The mist was definitely during the day as were a number of his seductions.

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2004-02-10 12:06am

Stormbringer wrote:At least some do. And some it's hard to tell because it's later in the day when they're shown. At least some do during the day.

The mist was definitely during the day as were a number of his seductions.

At the very least, we can say that Dracula can be alive and active during the day, and at least some of his powers work, which by itself puts him head an shoulders about the other vampires there.

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2004-02-10 12:08am

Interesting bunch we have here.

If we could include vampires outside of that in the poll, it would probably be a tie between Alucard, Kain (Vampire Masquerade, or whatever game he's from), and Arcueid (Tsukihime series).

Everyone else gets STOMPED.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2004-02-10 12:31am

There are varios Cains, Caines, Kains, and Kaine from various vampire series. The one from Vampire: The Masquerade and it's spinoffs would be Cain, the first murderer. And yes, he would probably be capable of slaughtering any yet mentioned.

For lack of a better term he would be a God.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-02-10 12:35am

Cain a vampire?

You've got to be fucking shitting me... That's almost insulting.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2004-02-10 12:48am

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Cain a vampire?

You've got to be fucking shitting me... That's almost insulting.

Why is that insulting? The back story of how he was curse by God after what he did isn't too bad. Far better than NGE's technobabble take on religion. *Shrug*

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-02-10 01:07am

Last time I checked that part of Judeo-Christian mythology, Cain never became a vampire, but some his and Lilith's children were. It just don't jive: those fucking vamps ruin everything.

As for Eva's "technobabble take on religion:"

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2004-02-10 01:13am

I just want to ask:

Cain can apparently make up abilities out of thin air. So if he wanted, say, a "Destroy Alucard with a thought" ability, he could acquire it instantly at its highest level and just use it to will Alucard out of existence, am I correct?

Arcueid has a similar ability called the Marble Phantasm. Whatever she imagines, she can will it into existence out of thin air. So conceivably she could will a weapon to destroy Cain out of thin air. Or she wills a multi-teraton nuke into existence and just MADs everyone.

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