Hammer vs Sauron

Kitsune · Post by **Kitsune** » 2003-11-26 10:59pm

I know this is a bit on the wierd side. Assume somehow the "Good" people of Middle Earth are able to get in touch with Hammer's Slammers with Middle Earth being a distant planet. The Drwaves offer huge piles of gold to pay them off, could Slammers defeat Sauron and how many units would Slammers need to take Sauron?

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2003-11-26 11:07pm

Tankers, right? I can't recall quite what the Slammers use, but if it's tanks, they will win provided:

1) They have supplies. Running out of gas and munitions just into the Black Gates means they are all badly, badly fucked.

2) They maintain excellent vigil at night. A Nazgul stabbing them in their sleep would end a campaign kind of quick.

3) They don't have to pass through any of the passes Sauron and Saruman kept filling with bad weather and mountainsides.

Lord of the Farce · Post by **Lord of the Farce** » 2003-11-27 01:50am

So far, I've never read anything about the supertanks or combat cars of Hammer's Slammers (or Frisian Defense Force, depending on the time period) ever having to refuel their fusion bottles, though their jeeps and infantry skimmers do need to connect with those fusion bottles to recharge every so often. Munition wise, all of the Slammer's vehicles can carry quite a lot, not surprising given that they are basically 2cm and 20cm plastic discs.

The Slammer's shouldn't have much to worry about with Nazgul sneaking up on them at night. Their basic commo helmets IIRC have night-vision, infrared, sound-echo, and probably a few other nifty extras. The sensors of the tanks has all that at better quality and more.

As for getting to Sauron, rough terrain isn't as much of a problem for Slammer's vehicles as they would be for real-life tanks, because they are hover vehicles. Weather (as long as it's not flooding) is not much of a concern, as long as there is a fairly wide and flat path to their destination, they'll get there.

More on Slammer's capabilities:
-Recon drones, quite low speed and designed to fly low, but should still be able to avoid almost anything that Middle Earth tech level can throw at it. Which would complement...
-Artillery units. Shells range from anti-tank (not much use in this scenario), ground-penetrator, fire-cracker (releases bomblets which throws around glass threads, deadly to those not behind cover), smoke, to the red-pill (aka nuclear).
-Powerguns, the primary type of weapon used by the Slammer's, is lightspeed and LOS. This means that everything from satellites (not a concern here), to aircrafts (or dragons), to mortar rounds, to the head that is just visible over the horizon can be hit. Sitting a couple of companies of combat cars on the top of the highest mountain they can reach would allow the Slammers to pick off targets at will.

LordShaithis · Post by **LordShaithis** » 2003-11-28 12:51am

Oh Christ, you're putting hordes of orcs up against tanks, artillery, and nukes? What was the point of this thread? lol

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2003-11-28 12:56am

GrandAdmiralPrawn wrote:Oh Christ, you're putting hordes of orcs up against tanks, artillery, and nukes? What was the point of this thread? lol

What was the point of this post?

LordShaithis · Post by **LordShaithis** » 2003-11-28 02:16pm

To point out an obvious mismatch, oh thick-skulled one.

Kitsune · Post by **Kitsune** » 2003-11-28 07:54pm

I guess the point would be to show how technolgy can beat even incredibly powerful magic. Also, I wanted to see if there was an equalizer in Saurons arsenal which I did not know of.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2003-11-28 08:00pm

Kitsune wrote:I guess the point would be to show how technolgy can beat even incredibly powerful magic. Also, I wanted to see if there was an equalizer in Saurons arsenal which I did not know of.

LOTR has extremely little magic, and what it does have isn't all that powerful. It could be defeated by victorian era units with adequete support structure.

Lord of the Farce · Post by **Lord of the Farce** » 2003-11-28 08:03pm

Kitsune wrote:I guess the point would be to show how technolgy can beat even incredibly powerful magic.

Things that are (like?) magic exists in the Hammer's Slammers universe. It has never stopped them yet, though.

I know, I know... no-limits fallacy and all that...

Also, I wanted to see if there was an equalizer in Saurons arsenal which I did not know of.

Unless he can somehow stop lightspeed plasma(?) cyan death, or has a nuke dampener handy, not likely.

... Also, forgot to mention in my last post, the Slammers also has assault dropships in their arsenal. Ouch.