Harry Potter Vs Clan Elamentals

Lt. Nebfer · Post by **Lt. Nebfer** » 2003-09-27 11:58pm

a Clan Trynary of Elamentals find themselvs at hogworts and begin to cause havak so who would win?

the claners have all 5 Types of suits to use.
IE the standerd Elamental, Gnome, Slyph, Undine,and Salamnder...

Straha · Post by **Straha** » 2003-09-28 11:50am

Translation of Lt. Nebfer wrote:a Clan Trinary of Elementals find themselves at Hogwarts and begin to cause havok so who would win?

the clanners have all 5 Types of suits to use.
IE the standerd Elemental, Gnome, Slyph, Undine,and Salamnder

First, Learn to spell. Second, Clan kicks ass, 75 men machine gunning their way through a small school that only has about 10 or 12 competent fighters, just imagine the carnage.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2003-09-28 11:54am

Wow, an opponent B-Tech can beat. Unarmed children.

Straha · Post by **Straha** » 2003-09-28 12:24pm

SirNitram wrote:Wow, an opponent B-Tech can beat. Unarmed children.

I actually think they could beat the Federation too, and maybe (just maybe) the Earthers from B5

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-09-28 01:40pm

The anti technology field would shutdown all the mecha, do Battletech crews carry side arms?

Straha · Post by **Straha** » 2003-09-28 02:13pm

Sea Skimmer wrote:The anti technology field would shutdown all the mecha, do Battletech crews carry side arms?

Yes, the needler pistol is the most common one, it's basically a mini shotgun using "plastic" instead of pellets.

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2003-09-28 02:21pm

Even without their power armour, elementals are deadly (huge size, enormous strength, etc)

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2003-09-28 02:36pm

Well, the elementals equipment is all going to go tits up as soon as they enter the Hogwarts grounds (assuming they can find it), so they are going to have to get out and fight with their fists or with knives or something. Unfortunately, outside of their armor, they can be very easily beaten by various spells that even most of the children can do at Hogwarts.

beyond hope · Post by **beyond hope** » 2003-09-28 08:16pm

Straha wrote:
Sea Skimmer wrote:The anti technology field would shutdown all the mecha, do Battletech crews carry side arms?
Yes, the needler pistol is the most common one, it's basically a mini shotgun using "plastic" instead of pellets.

IIRC it uses a solid block of plastic as its ammo and shreds it: that would get shut down by this "anti-technology field."

Straha · Post by **Straha** » 2003-09-28 08:49pm

Gil Hamilton wrote:Well, the elementals equipment is all going to go tits up as soon as they enter the Hogwarts grounds (assuming they can find it), so they are going to have to get out and fight with their fists or with knives or something. Unfortunately, outside of their armor, they can be very easily beaten by various spells that even most of the children can do at Hogwarts.

Well, I think that most of the students there would have trouble taking out one of their trolls, now if you take 75 big, fast, intelligent trolls I think theyll have a lot more trouble. Whats worse is a that the kids first reaction will probably be is to run exactly to their teachers, and this will lead to the clanners getting to them quicker, and this would lead to one suprised teacher about to be ripped apart by five (a point smart trolls. Repeat and soon you have a almost leaderless, massacred, Hogwarts...

Though in the end Dumbledore could probably pull something out of his ass, and save the day.

dworkin · Post by **dworkin** » 2003-09-28 10:46pm

What good is an elemental when it's a teapot? -Minerva.
Or unconcious from a poison cloud? -Snape
Under attack from the flora which has just been enlarged? - Sprout
And as for care of magical creatures, panimmunity won't work. - Hagrid

In any event elementals themselves are products of high-tech breeding. This leaves you with 75 overlarge thugs. They are eaten, poisoned, crushed, charmed and transmogrified into kitchenware. The students are not even woken (except for Fred and George who are already up and catch the lone surviving elemental with something or other).

Straha · Post by **Straha** » 2003-09-28 11:23pm

dworkin wrote:What good is an elemental when it's a teapot? -Minerva.

No good, But what good are the other four bearing down on her? OH WAIT! Those are good!

Or unconcious from a poison cloud? -Snape

I doubt he'd release poison anywhere in a school, after all children are rather susceptible to it, and Elementals are big BEEFY things, you'd need a whole lot of poison to take one of them down.

Under attack from the flora which has just been enlarged? - Sprout

Funny thing is that FLora doesn't move, so the Elementals would have to walk into the Greenhouses for this to happen to them, and since they train all their lives to fight and for tactics I doubt they'd be stupid enough to do that.

And as for care of magical creatures, panimmunity won't work. - Hagrid

Difference between Hagrid and an Elemental- Not much. In fact I doubt that most of the animals would even be willing to help the Proffesors in ordinary circumstances, let alone put their life on the line to help save their castle.

In any event elementals themselves are products of high-tech breeding. This leaves you with 75 overlarge thugs. They are eaten, poisoned, crushed, charmed and transmogrified into kitchenware. The students are not even woken (except for Fred and George who are already up and catch the lone surviving elemental with something or other).

Suppose the Elementals attack during the day? students panic, pandamonium rains, and the proffesors need to calm the students and dispatch of the elementals, who have numbers against the proffesors on their side, at the same time.

Iceberg · Post by **Iceberg** » 2003-09-28 11:29pm

Shinova wrote:Even without their power armour, elementals are deadly (huge size, enormous strength, etc)

Petrificus totalus, bizzatch.

The Cleric · Post by **The Cleric** » 2003-09-28 11:49pm

Dumbledore.

dworkin · Post by **dworkin** » 2003-09-28 11:57pm

Straha wrote:Suppose the Elementals attack during the day? students panic, pandamonium rains, and the proffesors need to calm the students and dispatch of the elementals, who have numbers against the proffesors on their side, at the same time.

Given what normally happens during a year at that school, I'ld be amazed if anyone noticed.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-09-29 12:07am

beyond hope wrote:
Straha wrote:
Sea Skimmer wrote:The anti technology field would shutdown all the mecha, do Battletech crews carry side arms?
Yes, the needler pistol is the most common one, it's basically a mini shotgun using "plastic" instead of pellets.
IIRC it uses a solid block of plastic as its ammo and shreds it: that would get shut down by this "anti-technology field."

If it's a simple detonator, it should still function. The 'anti-tech' field seems to apply to more advanced electronics that can't take a lot of external interference.

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2003-09-29 09:04am

Shinova wrote:Even without their power armour, elementals are deadly (huge size, enormous strength, etc)

Clanners are bred for battle from birth. Elementals geneticaly engineered to be extremely powerful humans. They would kill any normal humans in an unarmed fight.

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2003-09-29 09:05am

BTW is not the Salamander a Protomech and not an Elemental battlesuit ?

Lt. Nebfer · Post by **Lt. Nebfer** » 2003-09-29 03:07pm

yes a salameder is a Battle Suit (it's imune to fire and carries 2 flamers and inferno missiles

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-09-29 03:48pm

If an "anti-tech field" shuts down ordinary chemical reactions and Newtonian physics, even simple things like lighting a match or throwing and catching a baseball would be impossible. It must be more of an EMP-like effect.

2000AD · Post by **2000AD** » 2003-09-29 04:00pm

dworkin wrote: (except for Fred and George who are already up and catch the lone surviving elemental with something or other).

Since Fred and George have left Hogwarts (assuming your using the must up to date time) they wont be much use. However, if they've left behind some of there "pranks" there could be some problems. (eg. instant swamp).

Also, is Fluffy (Cereberus) still at Hogwarts?

The Cleric · Post by **The Cleric** » 2003-09-29 05:14pm

I don't think Fluffy is still there.

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2003-09-29 05:31pm

Darth Wong wrote:If an "anti-tech field" shuts down ordinary chemical reactions and Newtonian physics, even simple things like lighting a match or throwing and catching a baseball would be impossible. It must be more of an EMP-like effect.

Actually, it's more like a plot-device field that arbitrarily shuts down technology based on the whim of the writer when she doesn't want some stuff in Hogwarts. I wouldn't try to make sense of it, since it's not terribly consistant. After all, mechanical watchs and matches work inside Hogwarts, but a gun doesn't, even though the gun only uses simple mechanics and chemical reactions.

Straha · Post by **Straha** » 2003-09-29 05:56pm

dworkin wrote:
Straha wrote:Suppose the Elementals attack during the day? students panic, pandamonium rains, and the proffesors need to calm the students and dispatch of the elementals, who have numbers against the proffesors on their side, at the same time.
Given what normally happens during a year at that school, I'ld be amazed if anyone noticed.

Well, a kid having his head pulled of by an elementals bare hands might not be noticed, but when his body is thrown at the other kids I think they may notice...

Sorry for the sarcasm.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-09-29 09:03pm

Gil Hamilton wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:If an "anti-tech field" shuts down ordinary chemical reactions and Newtonian physics, even simple things like lighting a match or throwing and catching a baseball would be impossible. It must be more of an EMP-like effect.
Actually, it's more like a plot-device field that arbitrarily shuts down technology based on the whim of the writer when she doesn't want some stuff in Hogwarts. I wouldn't try to make sense of it, since it's not terribly consistant. After all, mechanical watchs and matches work inside Hogwarts, but a gun doesn't, even though the gun only uses simple mechanics and chemical reactions.

Wait, when was the gun incident?

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