Sadism: The Most Appropriate Punishment for Gor

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2003-07-28 01:27am

For those who have the blessed ignorance of Gor, it's basically a sexist wank. Gor-ians are 'strong, mighty, because they do not let themselves be ruled by women!'. There are, of course, the Priest-Kings and their orbital lasers, but I'm sure the creative members of our board can figure some way to get around that. Basically, think up the cruelest, most appropriate punishment for this world.

My entries:

#1: Lady Polaris of the Netherese. Stunningly beautiful, insanely powerful. A few mountain-projectiles, Pulses, and indiscriminate opening of portals to Hell.

#2: A Nova from Aberrant. There is alot of wanking about how strong and mighty Gorians are because they don't submit, but a female Nova is a God Incarnate. Those familiar with Aberrant are free to list powers they'd like to see used.

#3: LT. HIT-MAN. Those of you who have never seen the Cluthoid insanity of ASVS won't understand, but the good ole LT is all the punishment you'll ever need to throw at a bad person.

SHODAN · Post by **SHODAN** » 2003-07-28 02:22am

Me. Give gorians to me and I'll turn them into something productive.

Shadowhawk · Post by **Shadowhawk** » 2003-07-28 02:30am

Oh, that's simple. The Lady of Pain from Planescape: Torment.

Those Gor-ians will get a very long taste of their own medicine in no time.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2003-07-28 02:40am

My friend Steve's wife "Francine" hmm, multipal black belts, mastery of Di-Mak style pressurepoint arts, skilled in taditional CHinese medicine and in western medicine, skilled in sports medicine, very skilled in all kinds of poisons and herbs. not above making it so that men can't get their little gorian to stand up....

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2003-07-28 02:56am

Have as many male Goreans as possible trapped in the torture chambers of the SSD Lusankya. Wait how shocked they'll be when they find out it's all run by Ysanne Isard....

Post by **fgalkin** » 2003-07-28 02:56am

I've had the "pleasure" of having an encounter with one of the Gor novels. Basically, I wanted to see whether it is really what it is made out to be. In a word: YES!

I've downloaded a Russian translation of "Prisoner of Gor" (that's the one that is written from the perspective of an Earth woman abducted to Gor). Not surprisingly, she had learnt her place by the thrid chapter, and began to enjoy her role as a slave (and I mean truly enjoy)

. I've deleted the file after that.

The only thing that I can say is that I pity the translator. To think that someone had to read the book over and over and over again makes me sad. The translator also tried to make the book readable by working on the prose, but, unfortunately, it was unsalvageable.

So, my punishment for John Norman(or whatever the author is) is to have him tied up and locked in a room with the translator(s) with baseball bats.

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2003-07-28 02:58am

fgalkin wrote:So, my punishment for John Norman(or whatever the author is) is to have him tied up and locked in a room with the translator(s) with baseball bats.

What about putting him on fire?

Post by **fgalkin** » 2003-07-28 03:02am

Simon H.Johansen wrote:
fgalkin wrote:So, my punishment for John Norman(or whatever the author is) is to have him tied up and locked in a room with the translator(s) with baseball bats.
What about putting him on fire?

That would work, too.

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2003-07-28 04:09am

My mom....

great Hippie, expert in botanical poisons, expert in genetic engineering. expert in unarmed combat, one of the deadlyest shots I know....

She would just start her little secret society/cult, and it would be over....

InnerBrat · Post by **InnerBrat** » 2003-07-28 05:06am

the Mord'Sith

SylasGaunt · Post by **SylasGaunt** » 2003-07-28 05:12am

A Horde of Dolem.. every one I've seen so far is at least vaguely female.

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2003-07-28 05:23am

Simon H.Johansen wrote:Have as many male Goreans as possible trapped in the torture chambers of the SSD Lusankya. Wait how shocked they'll be when they find out it's all run by Ysanne Isard....

That would completely redeem my estimation of Ysanne Isard.

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2003-07-28 05:23am

Also, what about unleashing a Dark Eldar wych-cult from Warhammer 40k upon unsuspecting Gor?? Most of the Wych Cult leaders (succubi, dracites and archites) are female.... and practicaly every Dark Eldar - especially the wych cults - are sadomasochists.

What a poetic justice....

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2003-07-28 06:05am

Just send Shkai'ra against them and her forces from Snowbrother. It's not like the Goreans have anything that could really stop their entire society from being destroyed, given enough time... And the Priest-Kings wouldn't stop her, considering she's at the same tech-level the Goreans are.

Alex Moon · Post by **Alex Moon** » 2003-07-28 06:22am

Bind them all as Warders to Aes Sedai.

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2003-07-28 06:26am

Alex Moon wrote:Bind them all as Warders to Aes Sedai.

Bah. Nothing could be worse, nor more fitting, than a Kommanz invasion of Gor.

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2003-07-28 08:53am

The Duchess of Zeon wrote:
Simon H.Johansen wrote:Have as many male Goreans as possible trapped in the torture chambers of the SSD Lusankya. Wait how shocked they'll be when they find out it's all run by Ysanne Isard....
That would completely redeem my estimation of Ysanne Isard.

Too bad Isard's dead - anyway, there's always those Kommanz of yours, whatever they are.

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2003-07-28 08:56am

BTW, what's your current estimation of Isard for that matter?

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2003-07-28 09:11am

Simon H.Johansen wrote:
Too bad Isard's dead - anyway, there's always those Kommanz of yours, whatever they are.

They're from a post-apocalyptic society on the American continent. Live a bit like Mongols in terms of how their survive. Socially, however, they're organized in a way that even Nietzsche would think excessive. They rape their own children whenever they feel like, for example, and have a society built totally on sheer power and brutality on every level. They are completely without remorse, every single one of them, male or female, basically raised as a neurotic sociopath. They are not, however, sexist persay.

They do have some social cohesiveness--built around the need to raid for plunder and slaves--and women of exceptional talent can rise to positions of comparative power in their society, simply because, well, if you get that far, you earned it. Shkai'ra is a Kommanz warlord (lady?) who led raids against a comparatively peaceful agrarian people on the far edge of the steppe, sacking and burning cities and committing various atrocities worthy of "The Scourge of God" against the populaces, and who would rape pretty much anything she could pin down when she felt like it, male or female.

The Kommanz make the Goreans look like a bunch of cheap pikers, and a much more convincing villain--who in the Fifth Millenium series actually are the villains, for that matter, instead of the heroes. Unsurprising, Snowbrother also happens to be the first novel that S.M. Stirling wrote, if you notice any Draka parallels there.

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2003-07-28 09:16am

Simon H.Johansen wrote:BTW, what's your current estimation of Isard for that matter?

She couldn't have been anything more than a scheming bureaucratic, really, skilled at inter-office backstabbing. She was totally out of her depth actually trying to command a military force, or, for that matter, an intelligence operation, though she might have been efficient at organizing Intelligence in terms of its bureaucracy. That's how I see her.

Post by **LadyTevar** » 2003-07-28 09:37am

Ahh.. the fun things that come out of casual conversation....

I say let a few packs of BlackFury werewolves loose on Gor.
Nothing like a militant gang of Feminazis with permanent PMS and the ability to grow into a 9ft+ raging monster that can't be killed by anything but Silver or Fire.

Darth_Shinji · Post by **Darth_Shinji** » 2003-07-28 09:52am

Is this the actaul veiw presented in the books?

http://www.counter-urth.com/CF/gor_basics.html

Sounds like a retarded version of Barsoom (Edgar Rice Burroghs). Which is definatly a good cause for destruction.

A) A Barsoom Green Men horde. Not only are they actaully morally better (Consider that these are supposed to be very cruel beings), they will slaughter the Gorains easly.

B) A Sister of Battle Army.

C) The Realm from Exalted (With Empress)

D) The Keldains from the magic the gathering novels....Once again a cruel race with better treatment of thier slaves, expacly the women.

E) Shodan as already mentioned.

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2003-07-28 09:56am

I QUOTE:

GOREAN FANATIC wrote:John Norman created the world of Gor in the late 1960's and early 1970's in a series of 25 books. These books were written on a level for adults to be able to understand the phylosophy he was trying to convey. Many people became infatuated with the phylosophy and began to develope and insert many of the Gorean ways and beliefs into their daily lives.

Iceberg · Post by **Iceberg** » 2003-07-28 10:00am

Setting Nuku-Nuku loose on them, somehow, seems appropriate. Or perhaps a loose alliance of Iczer-One, Tendou Akane and Sailor Uranus/Ten'ou Haruka.

Darth_Shinji · Post by **Darth_Shinji** » 2003-07-28 10:03am

Iceberg wrote:Setting Nuku-Nuku loose on them, somehow, seems appropriate. Or perhaps a loose alliance of Iczer-One, Tendou Akane and Sailor Uranus/Ten'ou Haruka.

Akane Tendo would be awesome!

Gorian: I take you as slave.

*Akane picks up the "Not restricted on a man's abilities and strengths" male and throws him very, very, far.*